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My grandmother, who is of Karachai nationality, used to have a silver belt similar to those worn by Moroccan princesses. It was very beautiful and quite heavy.
abir said:I notice as well that the princesses' dresses look different from what some designers offer ... So I guess some Moroccan fashion outfits can't be worn
abir said:... So I guess some Moroccan fashion outfits can't be worn....
rosa said:in the majority of the models I don't recognize the caftan as I appreciate it,
to modernize it is a good thing but there I find that the costume is denatured
one of the only models that pleased me
Thanks Al_bina for the post; it’s an interesting information.Al_bina said:My grandmother, who is of Karachai nationality, used to have a silver belt similar to those worn by Moroccan princesses. It was very beautiful and quite heavy.
From pictures posted here, I see big variety of Moroccan fashion dresses; I believe it’s due to designer’s work/creativity or/and background and inspiration.rosa said:in the majority of the models I don't recognize the caftan as I appreciate it,
to modernize it is a good thing but there I find that the costume is denatured
one of the only models that pleased me
abir said:Yes, to my opinion some Moroccan fashion dresses can't be worn ... like some other fashion dresses around the world ...
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fine for SOME,but i believe that there's always people with incridible and extravagent taste who could like some of the examples you posted before ,you can make a sight at the most terrible thread:http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=178774#post178774,and you can see that there's many royals,and some celibreties of the show-biz who could ware unlikely outfits ,comparing to what you posted,it looks very humble. !
It's only a question of taste!
abir said:Also we have to remember that FASHION is not made for the majority of the population ... this is true in occident as well in ME/Arab countries.
Not anyone can afford a dress which costs thousands of dollars .... QUOTE]
The moroccan fashion is not an exception,it's not made for all people but if the majority of people could not wear caftans from designers,they could be inspired by them,as we know "ZARA,H&M,Mango are in hands of majority of people,but their collections are always inspired by the collections from fashion designers!
abir said:From pictures posted here, I see big variety of Moroccan fashion dresses; I believe it’s due to designer’s work/creativity or/and background and inspiration.
In one the website posted before, I read that some designers:
- prefer to keep the dress traditional (2 pieces, slits, etc).
- others like to modernise it.
- others they add more or less touches from other cultures by inspiration (from Japan, India, Turkey, Pharaoh, etc).
- others they add touches from their regions like North or South of Morocco.
However Morocco influences others … and its designers get influenced as well.
Yes, that's evident ... there is always some people who wear extravagant cloths because they like to be noticed or want to be different from others ... people don't have same taste nor same reasoning.Monalisa said:fine for SOME,but i believe that there's always people with incridible and extravagent taste who could like some of the examples you posted before ,you can make a sight at the most terrible thread:http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=178774#post178774,and you can see that there's many royals,and some celibreties of the show-biz who could ware unlikely outfits ,comparing to what you posted,it looks very humble. !
It's only a question of taste!
I think we were speaking about fashion designers of Haute Couture ... not ready to wear which costs few $ or "fashion" copied from big designers, which comes to the market after 4 years.Monalisa said:The moroccan fashion is not an exception,it's not made for all people but if the majority of people could not wear caftans from designers,they could be inspired by them,as we know "ZARA,H&M,Mango are in hands of majority of people,but their collections are always inspired by the collections from fashion designers!
I agree with you rosa. A lot of imagination/inspiration can come with something else than Kaftan ... I saw some which are far away from the formal one.rosa said:as I said it to modernize is a good thing (a kaftan less long and less large, use a modern cloth, made a more moderns coll and sleeves) as well as to add touchs of different regions of morocco (I saw some kaftans with magnificent Berber embroideries), but I think that when it is about traditional garment it is necessary to know how to preserve the authenticity of the clothes
the Moroccan dressmakers can express their imagination elsewhere that on the traditional garment
An exception???!!!Monalisa said:Staying in the exception thing,the exception of the moroccan fashion of the contemporary designers, is that it's inspired from its own traditions
abir said:I agree with you rosa. A lot of imagination/inspiration can come with something else than Kaftan ... I saw some which are far away from the formal one.
What I know also is that not all people in the world like to modernise their traditional dress. I read an article about this subject, I post it down with the link
Traditional Dress
Despite these and other pressures to adopt Western fashions, many people throughout the world have either maintained or readopted Traditional dress in everyday use, or for selected occasions. Very often Traditional dress has gone through a conversion process from everyday attire, to a fixed formal dress for weddings, government functions, traditional dance, or religious celebrations. Many styles of Traditional dress throughout the world also were, and are, assimilated into Western fashions. Traditional dress is enjoying a "comeback" in some areas of the world, (for example in many Moslem countries) even while losing ground in others. However, numerous examples of Traditional dress have survived into the 21st Century either in their original form, or in modified versions
The reasons for preserving Traditional dress are as various as the reasons for abandoning it. Traditional dress tends to be durable and slow to change, so it discourages consumerism and a need for constant new clothing. Traditional dress reinforces the values that the originating culture holds towards the body and gender, and therefore, is usually consistent with the indigenous religion's teachings on that subject.
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Traditional dress is used, even in Western culture, when a statement needs to be made about what the culture regards as unchanging values. This is why traditional dress is used in coronations, investitures, graduations, weddings, funerals, social and religious rites, and why even minor changes to items of dress in these cases can cause serious controversy.
Traditional dress also usually emphasizes the Aesthetic of a particular culture, and tends to best fit and flatter the typical body types of people of that ethnic heritage. Western fashions typically are designed to flatter usual European body types, and often look clunky on people who have different proportions. Traditional dress is also, often, designed for practical use in the climate and conditions of it's area, and may be retained by locals, or even adopted by visiting Westerners because of it's obvious comfort or utility.
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From http://www.costumes.org/classes/fashiondress/traditiondress.htm
You are welcome rosa, with pleasurerosa said:interesting article, thank you abir
Alexandria said:This thread has now been cleaned up.
It is a very beautiful thread with many beautiful examples of traditional Moroccan dresses. The detailing and embroidery is phenomenal. I hope to see more additions and contributions.