French State Visit to Sweden: 30-31 Jan 2024


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Everyone is looking good, love Mrs Macron understated elegance.

And , Alléluia. President Macron is wearing a proper White tie suit !

Yes, I was already counting on seeing President Macron's signature morning suit. A proper evening tailcoat was indeed an unexpected surprise.

No French order for Prince Daniel? That is odd.
 
No French order for Prince Daniel? That is odd.

He is wearing the Grand Officier insignia of the Legion of Honour. Maybe when Victoria will become Queen, there's will be an upgrade.
 
He is wearing the Grand Officier insignia of the Legion of Honour. Maybe when Victoria will become Queen, there's will be an upgrade.

Does that grade come with a necklace insignia only? Or a star? Or a star with a necklace insignia? The photos are not very good and I did not see them closely, but it appeared to me that Daniel was wearing his own Swedish order of the Polar Star on the necklet.

EDIT: I saw a better picture now. It looks like a badge hanging from a chest ribbon only. But he also has an additional star on the right side of the torso.
 
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Yes, I was already counting on seeing President Macron's signature morning suit. A proper evening tailcoat was indeed an unexpected surprise.

No French order for Prince Daniel? That is odd.

And he does look good in it ! The morning suit saga remains a mystery.
 
Thanks for the pictures. Madame Macron to the point, as usual. Victoria looks great, I dont like Silvias or Sofias outfit for this event.
Yes we will have to wait until Victoria becomes Queen to see Daniel treated the way he should. I don't even know why CP attends such events and doesnt fade quietly into the background as other royal houses lead by example. On photo he might look like the heir but he is not.
As usual, I don´t get your points.... What´s wrong with the Queen´s dress? She looks exactly a Queen should look like at a state banquet!
And why, for heaven´s sake, should "the Värmlands" fade quietly in the background? They are part of "the firm" and, as working Royals, have a duty for Sweden to fulfill! What do you expect these still relatively young people to do with the swedish taxpayer´s money...? Playing golf and growing roses?! You could well and truely ask then, why Pcss Christina, an 80 year old lady, still performs a public role...! A monarchy, and even more so when the King and Queen are very aged, urgently needs some "front players" which keep the whole business running! Only a CP couple is not enough. Monarchy needs to be seen and to be present, and not just in the capital, but the whole country, to be relatable! To do that, you need sufficient "staff". I think how things have been decided in Norway, and even more so with a chronically ill future Queen, was ill advised.
 
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As usual, I don´t get your points.... What´s wrong with the Queen´s dress? She looks exactly a Queen should look like at a state banquet!
And why, for heaven´s sake, should "the Värmlands" fade quietly in the background? They are part of "the firm" and, as working Royals, have a duty for Sweden to fulfill! What do you expect these still relatively young people to do with the swedish taxpayer´s money...? Playing golf and growing roses?! A monarchy, and even more so when the King and Queen are very aged, urgently needs some "front players" which keep the whole business running! Only a CP couple is not enough. Monarchy needs to be seen and to be present, and not just in the capital, but the whole country, to be relatable! To do that, you need sufficient "staff". I think how things have been decided in Norway, and even more so with a chronically ill future Queen, was ill advised.

Duke of Marmalade was commenting Queen Silvia's outfit at the welcome ceremony.
 
Does that grade come with a necklace insignia only? Or a star? Or a star with a necklace insignia? The photos are not very good and I did not see them closely, but it appeared to me that Daniel was wearing his own Swedish order of the Polar Star on the necklet.

EDIT: I saw a better picture now. It looks like a badge hanging from a chest ribbon only. But he also has an additional star on the right side of the torso. Isn't that the rank of Commandeur rather than Grand Officier? Pretty underwhelming for the consort of the Crown Princess.

The insignia of Grand-Officer is a badge worn on left breast suspended from a red ribbon, plus a breast star… Commandeaur wears a ribbon necklet with a suspended badge.

Prince Daniel is for some reason not placed as equal to the Crown Princess in the swedish court protocol but as equal to Prince Carl Philip… I have no idea why and i also don’t like it - but it is what it is
 
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Prince Daniel is for some reason not placed as equal to the Crown Princess in the swedish court protocol but as equal to Prince Carl Philip… I have no idea why and i also don’t like it - but it is what it is


Probably because unlike the wife of a Crown Prince he doesn't share his wife's title and is no Crown Prince but a mere Prince.

I would also prefer it if he would be seen as equal to his wife.
 
Probably because unlike the wife of a Crown Prince he doesn't share his wife's title and is no Crown Prince but a mere Prince.
I think so as well. She’s the Crown Princess. He’s just a Swedish Prince, of course created in his own right. But nothing more than Prince Carl Philip is as son of the Monarch. The same for Sofia, a simple princess.

Anyway I’m not impressed by Macron terrible cut. How could an expert tailor get away with it? Mrs. Macron looks lovely and chic as usual.

Not impressed by any jewels or dress in the SRF. Very meh.
 
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I share the thoughts about Mr. Macron's cut. His wife looks splendid, she always gets it right and represents the French elegance perfectly.
The Queen and Victoria look great, not liking Sofia's dress, the colour is very bland and the style not up to the occasion.
 
I share the thoughts about Mr. Macron's cut. His wife looks splendid, she always gets it right and represents the French elegance perfectly.
The Queen and Victoria look great, not liking Sofia's dress, the colour is very bland and the style not up to the occasion.

I agree totally with you.

Legion-Media gallery from the welcome
Legion-Media gallery from the Swedish Defence University

The King's speech at the Swedish Defence University (in english)
H.M. Konungens tal vid säkerhetsseminarium i samband med statsbesök från Frankrike _ Kungahuset

The guest list at the gala dinner:
Gästlista vid galamiddag 30 januari 2024 _ Kungahuset

The King's speech at the gala dinner:
H.M. Konungens tal vid statsbankett i samband med statsbesök från Frankrike _ Kungahuset

Victoria
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Kronprinsessan Victoria i H&M – på kungens stora galafest _*Svensk Dam
Prinsessan Christinas kupp – smög in på kungens fest _*Svensk Dam
La reine Silvia et la princesse Victoria ont coiffé leurs tiares napoléoniennes pour les Macron ParisMatch
Gästerna, menyn och juvelerna_ Så var kungens fest i natt! _*Svensk Dam
Gala på slottet i Stockholm – Frankrikes president åt middag med kungen Aftonbladet
Emmanuel Macron en Suède_ les images du dîner d'État avec le roi Carl XVI et la reine Silvia
Brigitte Macron complice et blagueuse avec Silvia de Suède, elle brille avec élégance à Stockholm _ Le diaporama - Purepeople

Victoria and Daniel seemed to be on a very good mood.
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Galamiddag på Slottet - allt om klänningarna, maten & gästerna - GALA magasin

Close ups of princess Sibylla's brooch Victoria had now for the second time:
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Princess Christina and Tord Magnuson
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Legion-Media gallery from the gala dinner

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The second day has started.
Victoria and Daniel arrived to the business seminar - Accelerating Europe's competitiveness - in Stockholm City Hall arranged by Business Sweden. Glad to see that Daniel attends too, although the Royal Court claims at their article that only Victoria attends.
The King and president Macron speak at the seminar.
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The King and President Macron visit European Spallation Source (ESS) in Lund, they were a little late:
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Expressen tells that President and mrs Macron stayed at the Bank Hotel in Stockholm at their visit.
The presidential couple has subscribed to the entire hotel and the breakfast, normally open to the public, is closed. The secrecy is great, so that the couple can have as private a stay as possible.
On Wednesday morning, the street outside the hotel was blocked off while police officers with automatic weapons guarded the entrance and police cars circulated in the area. A black Audi with French flags was parked outside the hotel. At 11.00, the president was seen leaving the hotel. Macron got into the waiting car, which was escorted by several cars with bodyguards.
Här bor Emmanuel och Brigitte Macron under besöket i Stockholm _ Sverige _ Expressen
 
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In the royal family titles, precedence, and orders are all ultimately the prerogative of the King, so regardless of which decision was the basis for the others (if that was the case), it was the King's own decision to treat his son-in-law Daniel as being of lesser rank than his counterparts Crown Princess Mette-Marit of Norway or until recently Crown Princess Mary of Denmark.

And why, for heaven´s sake, should "the Värmlands" fade quietly in the background? They are part of "the firm" and, as working Royals, have a duty for Sweden to fulfill! What do you expect these still relatively young people to do with the swedish taxpayer´s money...? Playing golf and growing roses?! You could well and truely ask then, why Pcss Christina, an 80 year old lady, still performs a public role...!

If I'm not mistaken, Princess Christina's treatment is not quite comparable as she is not given the same honors and precedence as the consort of the heir to the throne, unlike Prince Carl Philip.
 
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I am not Swedish and I don't see how Carl Philip and Christina and their spouses need to be at the state dinner. To me, the whole idea of "royal family" has died and it's just a monarchy with hereditary "presidential" couples.
 
I was wondering why Daniel, CP and Sofia wore the Order of the Elephant. Shouldn’t they have only worn the Legion of Honour? I see the insignia is rather small, but in the end, that’s the insignia they have of the country they are hosting.
Thoughts on this? I can be easily mistaken! I’m not 100% pro of orders.
 
I am not Swedish and I don't see how Carl Philip and Christina and their spouses need to be at the state dinner. To me, the whole idea of "royal family" has died and it's just a monarchy with hereditary "presidential" couples.


I don't think that its anything to do with being Swedish.
They've always attended State Banquets ,Carl Philip is the monarchs only son and Christina is the monarchs sister.
Its not uncommon to see members of the RF attend State Galas in most monarchies.
 
I was wondering why Daniel, CP and Sofia wore the Order of the Elephant. Shouldn’t they have only worn the Legion of Honour? I see the insignia is rather small, but in the end, that’s the insignia they have of the country they are hosting.
Thoughts on this? I can be easily mistaken! I’m not 100% pro of orders.

They are indeed wearing two orders. Victoria, Daniel, Carl Philip and Sofia 'only' were made Grand Officers and not Grand Cross. So, they are wearing their highest Grand Cross: The National Order of Merit for Victoria and the Order of the Elephant for the others; as well as the French order they received: Grand Officer of Order of the Legion of Honour.

You may notice that Christina is also wearing the Order of the Legion of Honor. However, she apparently was made a Commander (one step below Grand Officer) - also worn with her Swedish Grand Cross: the Order of the Elephant (not sure what is happening with that necklace).
 
They are indeed wearing two orders. Victoria, Daniel, Carl Philip and Sofia 'only' were made Grand Officers and not Grand Cross. So, they are wearing their highest Grand Cross: The National Order of Merit for Victoria and the Order of the Elephant for the others; as well as the French order they received: Grand Officer of Order of the Legion of Honour.

You may notice that Christina is also wearing the Order of the Legion of Honor. However, she apparently was made a Commander (one step below Grand Officer) - also worn with her Swedish Grand Cross: the Order of the Elephant (not sure what is happening with that necklace).

You mean the Order of the Seraphim, they are in Sweden - not Denmark. And Princess Christina is also having her H.M. The King's Medal 12th size with diamonds in chain.

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The King and President Macron visited Alfa Laval in Lund. After a presentation of Alfa Laval's work with green conversion, several innovations in the energy value chain were demonstrated, for example heat exchangers made of fossil-free steel and heat pumps.
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As the only media representative, Sydsvenskan received Queen Silvia and Brigitte Macron when they arrived at the residence in Malmö.
Drottning Silvia och fru Macron fick ett ”Ladies programme” i Malmö – Sydsvenskan
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The King and President are very, very late in their schedule. The Student Evening should have begun at 16.50, and they arrived at 18.10.
Photos from the Student Evening at Lund University.
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President Macrons besök i Lund_ Forskning och studentafton i fokus _ SVT Nyheter

President Macron takes farewell from Victoria and Daniel at Stockholm City Hall:
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The farewell reception at Lund University
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Silvia skålar i rosa champagne – på presidentens avskedsfest _*Svensk Dam
 
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Of course, I went along with JGio; the Swedish princes and princesses are indeed wearing the Order of the Seraphim.

As always, Daniel and Carl Philip are of course also wearing the Order of the Polar Star around their neck.
 
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President Emmanuel Macron singing "les Champs-Elysées", a famous song by Joe Dassin, on stage during his state visit to Sweden. Macron sings along with professional singers and others gathered around him at the end of a conference on democracy at Lund University.
President Emmanuel Macron at his X in swedish:
"Invited to a country that is a friend of France, a member of our big European family, a strategic ally and soon to be a member of NATO: Sweden. Dear friends, thank you for your welcome."
Macron X

HRH the King of Sweden and French President Macron visit ESS _ ESS
Two heads of state, one Alfa Laval _ Alfa Laval
French President Emmanuel Macron visits Lund University _ Lund University
Drottningen och Brigitte Macron besökte Barnahus - Malmö stad

Queen Silvia and Brigitte Macron seemed to have fun together:
Glad stämning mellan drottningen och presidenthustrun - GALA magasin

The Swedish Royal Court about the visit at its website:
Statsbesök från Frankrike _ Kungahuset
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Lots of HQ photos at court press room:
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The Royal Court at its Instagram
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Farewell at the Airport, photos from Royal Court Instagram stories
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Kungligheterna & presidenten på seminarium i Stadshuset - GALA magasin
The King and Queen of Sweden Welcome the President and First Lady of France for State Visit — Royal Portraits Gallery
Crown Princess Victoria Attends the Ceremony Welcoming the President and First Lady of France — Royal Portraits Gallery
Princess Sofia Attends the Ceremony Welcoming the President and First Lady of France — Royal Portraits Gallery
The King and Queen of Sweden Host State Banquet in Honour of the President and First Lady of France — Royal Portraits Gallery
Crown Princess Victoria Attends State Banquet Held in Honour of the President and First Lady of France — Royal Portraits Gallery
Princess Sofia Attends State Banquet Held in Honour of the President and First Lady of France — Royal Portraits Gallery

SPA's video
Prinsessornas tiarafest på slottet – se bilderna här! _*Svensk Dam
Crown Princess Victoria looks unbelievable in H&M ballgown with heirloom tiara _ HELLO!
Crown Princess Victoria is a vision in stunning power suit and vintage glam accessories _ HELLO!

SPA photos from the official welcome
SPA photos of the Queen and mrs Macron
SPA photos from the gala dinner
 
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I am not Swedish and I don't see how Carl Philip and Christina and their spouses need to be at the state dinner. To me, the whole idea of "royal family" has died and it's just a monarchy with hereditary "presidential" couples.


I rather think that dignitaries from non monarchy countries enjoy the glamour and the status of associating with royals.
 
To me, the whole idea of "royal family" has died and it's just a monarchy with hereditary "presidential" couples.

If you were Swedish you'd know that the "whole idea" of a royal family is very much alive and well here.
 
I rather think that dignitaries from non monarchy countries enjoy the glamour and the status of associating with royals.

I agree…. As Tony Blair once said, the visiting foreign guests loves that they are recived by the royal family, and they enjoy to be entertained by the royal family in the royal palaces - something that i can never give them at 10 Downing Street….. So why not ?
 
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French journalist Alexandre Peyrout thinks Macron came to Sweden because his policy is directed beyond Europe. It is very important for him to present the image of a European head of state, a European leader and, as it were, to be the first and best European leader. And that there were two symbols for the visit to Lund. Anne L'Huillier (2023 Nobel laureate in physics) is French and works in Lund. And the second reason was the visit to ESS, European Spallation Source. Macron is trying to create the image of a futuristic president who faces the future and is a friend of technology.
Peyrout says that all the French media was focused on the farmers' protests, there were only a few french journalists to cover the visit. He did a live report (on 30 January) and the only question the host asked him was if Macron in Sweden is concerned about the farmers blocking the roads in France.
Därför kom Macron till Lund – Lundagard.se


SPA's video from the Business seminar on 31st January
 
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