Death and Funeral of Vittorio Emanuele of Savoy, Prince of Naples, Feb 2024


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I was anyway surprised to see from Greece, Albania, Portugal, Bulgaria,… the Savoys didn’t show up at any of their weddings and not even the Funeral of the Late King Constantine, despite the great friendship.
I’m also perplexed that Belgium was not represented at all, when VE attended all Belgian main events.

Regarding the guestlist reported by some Italian media, I think that Italian journalists are not much experts in royalty given the many typos and mistakes.

I found it moving to the see the Duke of Aosta escorting the coffin despite the dispute.
 
I wonder why there were incorrect reports about the guestlist.

King Albert was Vittorio Emanuele's first cousin. Princess Astrid was his first cousin once removed. [...]

Vittorio Emanuele and his siblings (children of a Princess of Belgium) were also given Belgian diplomatic passports after the abolition of the Italian monarchy. And of course Prince Lorenz is the son of a Savoy princess, albeit from the Aosta branch.
 
Are there no more images of Afonso de Bragança?
 
Hug between Emanuele and Aimone
https://www.instagram.com/p/C3LRoYHtO6g/?igsh=emh5cGQ5eTlvMXJk



Are there no more images of Afonso de Bragança?

Unfortunately, if it wasn't for a screenshot, most of us wouldn't know Boris and Alfonso were there, I don't think they entered through the main door of the cathedral, so no quality photos of them.

Well, at least the King and Queen of the Belgians sent a wreath.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3K_Bh2omZQ/?igsh=bzE2M3VzYWdrdnYx
 
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In the Instagram link a few posts up, there's a very low quality screen shot of him.

Also, a fantastic photo of Emanuele-Filiberto and Aimone embracing.
 
Great expected guestlist and lower attendence. Bad communication !
 
I assume that all reigning monarchies recognized until the end Victor Emmanuel as Head of the House of Savoy. The Vatican does so as well - see the Message sent by Pope Francis.

Where can we see the Pope's message?


Vittorio Emanuele was referred to in the Mass as Prince of Naples and "Grand Master of the Orders of the Royal House of Savoy". Marina was also cited as "Her Royal Highness", and her son and granddaughters as "Prince/Princess". Is the Church in practice taking sides in the dynastic question?

It is also noteworthy that the designation "Royal House of Savoy" was consistently used throughout the Mass, as opposed to simply "House of Savoy". But that is not entirely surprising for the Church, even inside the Italian Republic.

Interesting. I suppose the question of whether the Church is taking sides on the headship question would depend on whether they are also willing to refer to the late Amedeo as Grand Master. Since Aimone himself now refers to Emanuele Filiberto and his wife and daughters as Prince and Princess, as JGio noted earlier, that should be acceptable even for those royalists who consider him to be the only legitimate family head.


anyone from the italian government going?

In the Senate president's interview about attending the wake "semi-officially", he also mentioned that he would not attend the funeral because his presence there would have the appearance of being "official".
 
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Great expected guestlist and lower attendence. Bad communication !

I wonder if the guest list was even official in the first place or simply a copied and pasted from the Internet?
 
I wonder if the guest list was even official in the first place or simply a copied and pasted from the Internet?
I believe it’s a list made up by journalists, not approved by the House or released by it.
 
I was anyway surprised to see from Greece, Albania, Portugal, Bulgaria,… the Savoys didn’t show up at any of their weddings and not even the Funeral of the Late King Constantine, despite the great friendship.
I’m also perplexed that Belgium was not represented at all, when VE attended all Belgian main events.

Regarding the guestlist reported by some Italian media, I think that Italian journalists are not much experts in royalty given the many typos and mistakes.

I found it moving to the see the Duke of Aosta escorting the coffin despite the dispute.
I don’t think the main branch of Savoys were close to the former Greek royal house.
 
That would seem more probable!

It was a respectable attendance nonetheless. All royal houses that were mentioned to be represented in the original list were indeed in attendance, except Belgium. The only difference is that they sent less senior members of their respective families than originally anticipated in the leaked list.

Still, Queen Sofia's and Prince Albert's presence were the highlights in my opinion.
 
I do not believe that the published list was the official one, because in addition to errors with the attendees, there are Royal Houses that do not appear in it, and have been present at the funeral. And regarding the Italian photography agencies, it is obvious that they do not know much about Royal Houses, because many photos of guests are missing.
 
I love that Queen Sofia, Prince Albert, and Prince Jean were present.
The moment of embrace between Aimone and EF was heart-warming.
 
Can someone tell me who this is?


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He looks like a young version of the deceased.
 
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Nothing on TV and I saw 2 hours Funeral Mass who was as more then 50 years ago. The Cardinale blessing the attendence etc..
Prince Emanuele was full of dignity , he was next to his wife but should have prefered to sit next to his daughter. Next to his Daughters , Princess Maria Pia , and next Marie Elisabeth de Balkany and Asea Reyna.
My highlight was the attitude of Duke Aymone of Savoie. What will happen now with this 2 Houses ?
 
Nothing on TV and I saw 2 hours Funeral Mass who was as more then 50 years ago. The Cardinale blessing the attendence etc..
Prince Emanuele was full of dignity , he was next to his wife but should have prefered to sit next to his daughter. Next to his Daughters , Princess Maria Pia , and next Marie Elisabeth de Balkany and Asea Reyna.
My highlight was the attitude of Duke Aymone of Savoie. What will happen now with this 2 Houses ?
Yesterday night in Italy was the Finale of the Festival of Sanremo, that gathered 75% of Italians in front of the TV and all TV shows talk about it relentlessly. It was bad timing for the Funeral as little to no space has been devoted by the Media. They all focused on SanRemo. I’ve seen only a couple important journals showing the livestream of the Funeral on their websites.

Regarding the two Houses, I believe things will remain as they are. EF and Aimone are in very friendly terms, but they will not change their minds, and keep going on as if the problem does not exist. They’ll be more polite to each other and respect the other’s point of view without accepting it anyway. They must have drawn lessons from their fathers. But I hope a more united family from now on. Aimone’s gesture to escort the coffin of his Uncle was a nice reconciliation hint. Still we don’t know if Aimone did it as Duke of Savoy or Duke of Aosta.

From the IG stories of PointDeVue, you can see the flowers sent by Philippe and Mathilde of the Belgians.
 
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Such a bummer for the Belgian RF to miss this. VE attended King Baudouin's funeral.

Princess Maria Isabella of Savoy-Genoa did not attend too? Or sent representative?
 
The Savoys are on the fringes of the royal society in Europe. It’s unreasonable to expect the reigning families to attend a funeral of a private citizen with whom they have very little contact.

Good to see the old Queen of Spain present though.
 
The Savoys are on the fringes of the royal society in Europe. It’s unreasonable to expect the reigning families to attend a funeral of a private citizen with whom they have very little contact.

Good to see the old Queen of Spain present though.

The royal houses that chose to ignore the funeral were mostly the Protestant ones (the British, the Dutch, the Scandinavian, and the non-Catholic German houses) although there were some missing Catholic families (Bavaria, Belgium, Liechtenstein) and Orthodox families (Romania) too.

The extensive guestlist, however, seems to indicate that the Savoys are not exactly "on the fringes of royal society" in Europe and, moreover, it was an implicit recognition of Emanuele Filiberto as the new head of the House, at least by the royal houses that were in attendance, not to mention obviously by the Roman Catholic Church, which is the most important endorsement in Italy.

Actually these can be positive times for the main branch of the Savoys. Emanuele Filiberto is (was?) a bit of a playboy, but he is well-known, possibly even a celebrity, in Italy. I believe that he and his gorgeous young daughters have the potential to become very popular with younger generations of Italians. That doesn't mean a restoration of the monarchy, or that anyone will seriously consider them for any semi-official state role as the Royal House of Romania has apparently managed to secure for example, but hopefully there will be a "normalization" of the relations between the Italian Republic and the House of Savoy, more along the lines of what we see in Portugal, maybe even in Austria or in France, where the Royal Family is respected as part of the heritage of the country.

Of course I don't expect either that the Italian Republic will return the Quirinale Palace or Villa Ada to the Savoys, as Vittorio Emanuele once (somewhat delusionally) demanded, but they may make some progress getting back their family jewels for example, which I sincerely hope. Punishments cannot carry over from one generation to another in the same family. That is wrong.
 
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The Belgian RF could have a least sent Prince Laurent or Princess Marie Esmerelda, quite a poor showing from the Belgian RF.
 
No contacts with the Belgian royal family and the Savoy family since Queen Elisabeth passed away in 1965.
Queen Marie José and some of her children attend King Baudouin Funerals as they did for King Leopold III and Charles Count of Flanders. Did they see the family afterwards I don't think.
 
No contacts with the Belgian royal family and the Savoy family since Queen Elisabeth passed away in 1965.
Queen Marie José and some of her children attend King Baudouin Funerals as they did for King Leopold III and Charles Count of Flanders. Did they see the family afterwards I don't think.

Archduke Lorenz' mother was a Savoie by birth. His and Princess Astrid's absence IS curious, to say the least.
 
No contacts with the Belgian royal family and the Savoy family since Queen Elisabeth passed away in 1965.
Queen Marie José and some of her children attend King Baudouin Funerals as they did for King Leopold III and Charles Count of Flanders. Did they see the family afterwards I don't think.
The deceased Victor Emanuel went to the Funeral of Queen Fabiola and was seated behind the Belgian Royal Family. Also Emanuele Filiberto a couple years said in an interview that he was coming straight from a skiing weekend with the brother of the King of Belgium (I assume he meant Prince Laurent).
 
The extensive guestlist, however, seems to indicate that the Savoys are not exactly "on the fringes of royal society" in Europe and, moreover, it was an implicit recognition of Emanuele Filiberto as the new head of the House, at least by the royal houses that were in attendance, not to mention obviously by the Roman Catholic Church, which is the most important endorsement in Italy.

I don't think simply attending the funeral necessarily signifies implicit recognition of Emanuele Filiberto as the new head of the House; after all, cousin Aimone attended and even escorted the coffin and nobody expects him to give up his claim to be the head.


Actually these can be positive times for the main branch of the Savoys. Emanuele Filiberto is (was?) a bit of a playboy, but he is well-known, possibly even a celebrity, in Italy. [...]

It is interesting how well-connected Emanuele Filiberto appears to be in Italy, with the defense minister and president of the Senate publicly identifying themselves as his personal friends (and thank you for the posters who shared those details here), considering that he has never lived there if I'm not mistaken.

I believe he said in at least one interview that he hopes his daughter and heiress Vittoria will eventually settle in Italy.
 
Archduke Lorenz' mother was a Savoie by birth. His and Princess Astrid's absence IS curious, to say the least.

Archduke Martin, his Brother was seen with King Fouad of Egypt, Prince Leke of Albania
 
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