Crown Princess Mary, Current Events 3: November 2004 - May 2005


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Hm, I´m in a moral conflict...I love to watch those covers (and photoshoots inside) but I think it´s inappropriate a) as new crown princess b) because there are three in a row c) because she wears a lot of foreign big labels for them.
So in other words personally I want to see more, but I think those shootings are in the long run really bad for the monarchy.
 
I get what you're saying. But I think (hope) they'll be smart about it and there ought to be no more fashion shoots after the Australian tour.

However I still think that its not as bad as some make it out to be. She's on the cover of almost all of the magazines here in Australia - but that's hardly the CPss fault, they wanted her there. She did the fashion shoot for Vogue Australia - okay, that was one. Then the Dansk magazine - that wasthe second one. I'm also not sure who shot those pics, but I have a hard time imagining Mary saying "I WANT to wear Burberry! give me Burberry!). But who knows. Anyway that was two. And then the Women's Weekly pics. Those pics were taken by Steen Evald, and I'm not even sure that they're not "old" pics (maybe left overs from previous photo shoots? who knows).

I also think they're making the CP & CPss are making the most of this opportunity (because people do want to know about them right now... as opposed to when they're old and greying and nobody has the time for them and their charities (slack, but what I meant was noticeable lessening of interest) anymore.

Anyway, we might think it is bad for the monarchy, but for the people out on the streets, who do not follow royalty and who have not seen any of the pics and followed these royals, this is probably the first time they've seen them and I get the feeling that they're not saying "overexposure!", they're saying "o wow, she looks beautiful in these pics, didn't know she had it in her" (keeping in mind that they haven't seen the hundred and thousands of pics we've seen).
 
While some princesses wish to be "hard-working" princesses, Mary clearly wants to be a "celebrity" princess. If the tax-paying people of Denmark and the court of Denmark don't have a problem with that ambition, if they don't mind that for whatever actual work she's done to date, she's just seen so far as a pretty fashionista, why should anyone not from Denmark have a problem with it?
 
So true, Lucy. I think every country has a different expectation of what their monarch should behave. In Denmark, they don't think anything wrong with posing as a fashion model, so everyone else should let up. Just as some criticize letizia's workload as attention grasping. In Spain, I suppose if you work less, you would get criticized. Until the people who foot the bills say otherwise, it should not be a problem to the rest of us.
 
lucys said:
While some princesses wish to be "hard-working" princesses, Mary clearly wants to be a "celebrity" princess. If the tax-paying people of Denmark and the court of Denmark don't have a problem with that ambition, if they don't mind that for whatever actual work she's done to date, she's just seen so far as a pretty fashionista, why should anyone not from Denmark have a problem with it?

How absurd....
 
I don't understand why people are annoyed with her for creating interest... isn't she doing her job and her bit to keep the monarchy going and relevant?

she can't win, if she does nothing people shout, if she works too hard people would shout about her not having babies.... she can't win.
 
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Jasl said:
(Dennism - yeah I'm doing some "recycling", LOL!)

That´s okay. Such well-spoken sentences should be repeated. Great debate. Well done, everybody. Keep it up!
 
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The danish Crown Princess Mary finds herself in the middle of an upcoming scandal regarding her past in Sydney. The australian daily "The Australian" tells its readers that Mary has had an affair with an australian footballplayer only weeks before she met Crom Prince Frederick during the Sydney Olympics. from colourpress




http://www.colourpress.com/index.cfm?Goto=frontend/fotos/ShowSerie.cfm&nPictureSerieNo=4280
 
From THe Australian

Princess Unplugged


Vanda Carson
February 24, 2005
EVEN as she stood on the palace balcony on her wedding day kissing her prince and waving at the adoring crowd below, Princess Mary's fairytale new family life was falling apart.

Within four months, the cracks in the royal Danish household were exposed by the announcement of the divorce of the younger brother of Mary's husband Crown Prince Frederik.

After two children and nine years of marriage, the divorce of Prince Joachim and his Hong Kong-born wife Princess Alexandra sent shock waves through the longest serving royal house in Europe.

In the lead-up to the divorce announcement, which will be the first in the family in 158 years, the former Sydney real estate agent had to keep smiling and acting as if nothing was amiss - despite being aware of the friction between the younger couple and their impending split, timed to be made public after her spectacular wedding.

Mary had to talk about lifelong commitment and happy families while Alexandra was being frozen out of the inner circle and a new home was purchased for her to live

The split has transferred even greater expectation on to Mary's young shoulders. As the new wife of the heir to the Danish throne, Mary was expected to follow in the footsteps of Alexandra, who was adored by the Danish public. Alexandra, who was a commoner like Mary, carried out her role without a hitch - but ultimately failed to keep her marriage together. Alexandra's divorce begged the question: How long would Mary last as the new young face of the ageing Danish monarchy?

Due to arrive in Sydney today for a 22-day visit - and her first official trip home - Mary is expected to present a glittering image amid intense formality. She does not wish to be portrayed as the Australian sheila who kissed a prince at a pub and slowly morphed into an elegant swan. Rather, she wants to be seen as a ready-made royal who was born with innate grace, glamour and poise.

Mary is proud of her Australian heritage - decorating her home north of Copenhagen with a kangaroo garden statue and other Australian furnishings - but she appears determined to keep images and stories of her life before Frederik buried.

One of the first letters she penned on her crisp insignia-topped palace parchment following her wedding was to a Sydney-based personal development guru. Instead of a heartfelt thankyou for tuition in self-expression and confidence, it was a polite demand that Teresa Page remove all record of her from the Starmaker Studios website (www.starmakers.com.au).

Page, who instructed Mary for seven weeks in 2001 - three months after her famous meeting with the prince - acceded to the request. Photographs taken when Mary had fuller cheeks, hips and cleavage, and a rambling testimonial written when she was just plain old Mary Donaldson, were removed as they were not in keeping with her new image. In the testimonial Mary wrote: "What I have experienced - much and varied. Probably one of the strongest elements is the connection between mind and body, not only that a connection exists but how to develop it and work it to your advantage. As an absolute novice, I walk away with the understanding and appreciation of the industry and the requisite tools and techniques to progress in the industry. And one final thing, it was delivered from an experienced experience. Thank you. Mary Donaldson."

The move was part of the campaign by the Sydney real estate agent and the Danish royal palace to erase records of the journey Mary took to becoming a crown princess.

From day one, friends and family were instructed, via email, not to spill the beans on her past. Her brief fling with Sydney Swans footballer Ryan O'Keefe just weeks before she met her future husband was kept under wraps until it was revealed in a gossip column after the wedding. So was her seven-year live-in relationship with Melbourne spin doctor Brent Annells.

Her less than regal fashion sense has been slowly erased - the casual sports clothes are gone. So are the shy and awkward expressions, the Australian accent and about 8kg.

The new polished Mary is ready to take her place as a princess on a pedestal 4 1/2 years after she met Frederik at a Sydney pub on September 16, 2000. Although her background and common touch are part of her charm, there must be an air of mystique.

But the appearance of effortless sophistication takes a lot of work when royals are on the road. When she arrives in Sydney today, Mary will be accompanied by her make-up artist Soren Hedegaard, at least two bodyguards from the Danish Security Intelligence Service and a lady-in-waiting. The guards who protect Mary and Frederik are distinguished by their red lapel pins and ear-microphones. Mary's lady-in-waiting is the elegant, surrogate mother-figure Countess Victoria Bernstorff-Gyldensteen, 54, an American-born Danish noblewoman who is part secretary, part adviser. She prompts Mary if she forgets names and holds her bouquets and speeches.

The Danes are hoping that a good dose of Australian sun and tucker will give Mary a healthy glow and put some flesh back on her bones. Even though she's in fine shape for another bikini beach shot, there will be no such opportunity this time. Mary was upset by bikini shots taken of her on Sydney's Bronte Beach during her visit with Frederik in January last year. "In terms of throwing on a swimsuit, I would think twice about that because it's not very nice to be photographed in a swimsuit," she said in a recent interview.

Her gaunt appearance is a highly sensitive issue in Denmark, with many commentators blaming her inability to conceive a royal heir on her dramatic weight loss both before and after the nuptials in May last year. The pressure to conceive is intense, with Queen Margrethe forced to come out in August last year and flatly deny the former Australian was expecting. "The most important thing is that the young couple is left in peace. We are not sitting on the edge of our chairs [waiting for a baby]," she said.

During her 12 days in Sydney, two nights in the nation's capital, a whistlestop in Melbourne and two days in Hobart, Mary will lend her new glamour to black-tie dinners and social gatherings, tree-plantings and openings.

But what is being promoted as a charity tour is a sailing camp for Frederik. The sailing fanatic has timed the visit to skipper the Danish entry in the Farr 40 world yachting championships, due to begin next month.

Mary is just keeping herself busy on-shore while Frederik sails alongside her former boss at Belle Property, Chris Meehan. She will attend medical research clinics and ladies charity lunches while Frederik sails.

At other events the pair will wave at crowds and shake hands with politicians, fundraisers, prominent Australian Danes and A-list celebrities.

They will be chauffeur-driven with a police escort -- flashing lights and green traffic lights all the way -- and taxpayers will foot the bill for the royal couple's luxury accommodation, security and other travel expenses.

At one event in Sydney, 100 social-climbing couples are paying $3000 per couple to attend an intimate evening at one of the city's most glamorous harbourside homes.

Ladies must curtsey to Mary, men must bow, but a palace spokeswoman says children who present Mary with posies can do away with formalities.

The hectic tour will be followed by a private holiday visiting friends and family in Tasmania. The Danish media is disappointed, however, that she is not visiting a zoo or tourist sights that would produce those classic Australiana shots.

Since their wedding, Mary has accompanied Frederik on official visits to Greenland and London, and a skiing trip to Switzerland.

Apart from learning the ins and outs of royal etiquette and getting used to the fact her mother-in-law's face is on the back of 10 and 20 kronor coins - she has dutifully upgraded her skiing, sailing and golfing skills - the favourite pastimes of the Danish royals. She has four golf club memberships at the most exclusive courses in Copenhagen, has attended engagements as patron of eight organisations and has had university scholarships set up in her honour.

She's proved a good and successful student, but sometimes the old Mary slips out from behind the facade. When she was named royal patron of the Danish Heart Foundation in January, taking over from her father-in-law Prince Henrik, she was unable to continue with her speech - one of only a handful she has given in Danish. Referring to her mother, Henrietta, who died in November 1997 after a heart operation, she was so overcome that she couldn't remember her words and her notes had to be passed to her.

As a former tutor of Mary, Sydney's Page is proud of the transformation of her graduate, although she says she was hurt that Mary shunned her and forced her to remove her star pupil's testimonial from her website.

Page says Mary always had a "lovely voice", even if it now sounds "more clipped". "She doesn't sound Australian, put it that way," Page says. "I believe that the reason why everyone loves her is because she is very authentic. To fit in you really have to adapt, you have to be very status-conscious, it dictates everything."

In November 2001, Vanda Carson broke the story that Mary Donaldson was the secret Australian girlfriend of Frederik.
 
lucys, we don´t know that Danes are not complaining about Mary´s "only" being a fashion model. Remember that this is an English language board-many Danes may be griping on a Danish board!
Even if the mags want her on their cover, she can say "no", can´t she?
 
Xandra said:
lucys, we don´t know that Danes are not complaining about Mary´s "only" being a fashion model. Remember that this is an English language board-many Danes may be griping on a Danish board!
Even if the mags want her on their cover, she can say "no", can´t she?

Well i am a Dane and i se no problem that Mary are a som front pages.
She is doing her work great when she is at work, and i see the front pages as a part of her work, becaus it is one way to tell peapol from other countrys about Denmark.

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The danish Crown Princess Mary finds herself in the middle of an upcoming scandal regarding her past in Sydney. The australian daily "The Australian" tells its readers that Mary has had an affair with an australian footballplayer only weeks before she met Crom Prince Frederick during the Sydney Olympics. from colourpress


As The Australian writes it was BEFOR she meet CrownPrince Frederik so where is the big scandal ????
 
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H.M. Margrethe said:
bigheadshirmp said:
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The danish Crown Princess Mary finds herself in the middle of an upcoming scandal regarding her past in Sydney. The australian daily "The Australian" tells its readers that Mary has had an affair with an australian footballplayer only weeks before she met Crom Prince Frederick during the Sydney Olympics. from colourpress


As The Australian writes it was BEFOR she meet CrownPrince Frederik so where is the big scandal ????

no idea...but that's what it says on the title...i just copy and paste~?!
 
Geez. Some people will do ANYTHING to get a story. She didn't do anything wrong. There's no scandal because she obviously had a life before meeting CP Frederik.
 
I totally agree with you! Somebody is trying to make a scandal out of nothing! Probably because CP Mary doesn't have any big gosts in her past, and then they try to create some! And find me anybody in their 20s and 30s who doesn't have any ex'es and flings in their past! It's just nonsense!
 
don't you think there have been lots of covers of mary? i mean... i dont think she should. she has been princess for 9 months and she has done 5 or 6 covers and interviews and most of them to non danish press. it's really surprising queen margareth doesnt say anything...
 
Mary on Dansk.

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Alisa said:
I fail to see the Crown Princess posing for Dansk magazine an key magazine for the Danish style counsel or attending the fashion shows is such a big issue. The Crown Princess is the patron of the CIFF was she not suppose to show up for one of the biggest days of the year for CIFF?

Fine, so Mary posed for DANSK because she was representing Danish fashion - how many Danish-designed outfits did she wear during this photo shoot?

And what was her reason then for posing in Australian VOGUE back in December and for Women's Weekly? Also because she was representing Danish fashion? Interesting how Mary can represent Danish fashion and style when she's wearing non-Danish designers though.

How many photoshoots have Mathilde and Letizia done to represent and promote Belgian and Spanish fashion, respectively? ... None. They've both represented and promoted fashion designers from their own countries by wearing their designs while performing engagements within their countries and abroad. No need for splashy photoshoots or endless puckered-lipped muggings for the camera to do that. Mary should take note.

Jasl said:
I have to say though - Australians now know about Denmark!! She's everywhere here right now - on the covers of all magazines (well maybe not all). I haven't come across one person who doesn't know about Mary and Denmark.

How many Argentinians now know about the Netherlands because of Maxima? How many photo shoots and interviews did Maxima have to do to achieve that?

How many people from Hong Kong learned more about Denmark because Princess Alexandra was marrying Prince Joachim? How many photo shoots and interviews did Alexandra have to do to achieve that?

Mary being a native Australian marrying into the Danish royal family would've attracted a lot of attention on its own. There's no need for Mary to pose for pictures and give interviews to get Australians to learn about Denmark.

Jasl said:
And why all these interviews? I would say its all about promoting Denmark (or promoting Mary, take your pick,

I pick promoting Mary. Denmark was doing fine before Mary just as it would've done fine without Mary.

Jasl said:
(the Danes are big contributors to UNICEF - they'll probably give the money to UNICEF instead)

What does UNICEF have to do with Mary giving interviews or Denmark?

Jasl said:
And all she needed to do was give a couple of interviews (which probably wouldn't have taken that long... she probably fitted all these interviews in one or two days).

No. Interviews can take several days, weeks, even months depending on the coverage. It is not just the interviewing alone. The writer then has to write the piece and make a cohesive piece out of his or her questions. He or she may need to go back and ask further follow up questions or clarify comments. There is fact checking that follows after a writer submits it to the publication. In pieces such as this, there is sometimes royal court approval required before the piece can be published. So no, all these interviews were likely not conducted in only one or two days.

Jasl said:
And I think the feeling here in Australia is that its so cool that Fred and Mary are so down to earth and accessible. IMO some of us have had enough of stuffy royal houses and all these antiquated ideas about what a royal should or shouldn't do. Upholding the social hierarchy - that's sooo not what we're all about. We've had enough of royals being off limits, of royals being prim and proper all the time.

The fact is however that Mary and Frederik are not the Crown Prince and Crown Princess of Australia. They are the crown Prince and Crown Princess of Denmark. It doesn't matter how "cool" Australians think of Mary and Frederik as being down to earth and accessible and unprim and unproper. What matters is what the people of Denmark think of their Crown Prince and Crown Princess. What Australians think matters little more to the Danish royal court than what the Spanish or the French think of Mary and Frederik.

Larzen said:
There is ofcourse a difference between beeing on the cover with pictures taken at their official engagements or papparazzi pictures, that they cant control, but doing three fashion shoots in a few months is over the top IMO. And the argument that she does it as patron for danish design would have been more valid if she had accually worn dansih designs on all the pictures, which she did not do in Vogue (1 danish and several not danish) and Dansk (1 danish and two not dansih) Also on her trips abroad she has been wearing mostly nondanish clothes. She is not a common celbrety that can do as many cover as they please as thay only promote themself, she is the future Queen of Denmark and I find such behaviour only further washes out the difference between royals and celebreties, a line that is already VERY thin at the moment.

Excellent post.

We are not talking about Mary being on magazine covers or in magazine stories of which the pictures are completely comprised of paparazzi shots or of Mary at engagements or even of official photographs. We are talking about magazine covers and stories for which Mary sat down with and talk to a journalist and posed for a photographer.

Mary is definitely blurring the line more and more between being a royal and being a celebrity. She is no more different than Julianne Moore posing for VOGUE or In Style when she is promoting a movie.
 
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what scandal !! she deserves to have a life , and she didn't do anything wrong , it was before meeting with Crown Prince Frederick ...i just don't get it !!!!!:eek: :confused:
 
I kind of think that those last magazine covers were inappropo. It is more like she is trying to be a model than a princess. I hoep she stops this for a while.
 
Anna_R said:
Mary on Dansk.

From Brainpix, pictures from the inside of the magazine

Thanks for the pictures Anna. They are indeed pretty (black and white pictures always are in my opinon) and glamorous shots of Mary. I think it's one too many magazine features for Mary though, no matter what the intentions are.
 
bigheadshirmp said:
From THe Australian


From day one, friends and family were instructed, via email, not to spill the beans on her past. Her brief fling with Sydney Swans footballer Ryan O'Keefe just weeks before she met her future husband was kept under wraps until it was revealed in a gossip column after the wedding. So was her seven-year live-in relationship with Melbourne spin doctor Brent Annells.

No rendezvous with royal ex-girlfriend


February 24, 2005
From: AAP

NOW she's married into Danish royalty, Mary Donaldson's old boyfriends won't be counting on any calls when the princess returns to Australia on a royal tour.

Crown Princess Mary, the Tasmanian-born former Sydney real estate agent, this weekend begins a tour of her homeland with husband Crown Prince Frederik.

Before she met Frederik in Sydney in 2000, the then Mary Donaldson had a brief relationship with Sydney Swans footballer Ryan O'Keefe, who today was playing down any prospect of a reunion.

"No, I'm not planning to catch up for coffee," O'Keefe, 24, said today when asked about his former flame.

"That (relationship) happened a while ago and that's in the past." Crown Princess Mary will add a touch of glamour to a series of social events and black-tie gatherings during her 12 days in Sydney, two in Canberra, a brief visit to Melbourne and two days in Hobart, where she grew up.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12356634-1244,00.html

Here is some more information about Ryan from the Sydney Swans website. http://sydneyswans.com.au/default.asp?pg=players&spg=playerprofile
 
Dennis two-timing?

Dennism said:
I tried to vote for Mary a lot of times for "Most Elegant of the Year" and she didn´t win.

And you didn't cast a single vote for Victoria?

I'm shocked.
 
Genevieve said:
Fine, so Mary posed for DANSK because she was representing Danish fashion - how many Danish-designed outfits did she wear during this photo shoot?

DANSK is Danish design magazine and as Patron of The CIFF it is a no brainer that she is interviewed by then. The Crown Princess is wearing Heartmade a Danish design team on the cover of the magazine.
Genevieve said:
And what was her reason then for posing in Australian VOGUE back in December and for Women's Weekly? Also because she was representing Danish fashion? Interesting how Mary can represent Danish fashion and style when she's wearing non-Danish designers though.
There were several requests for interviews (Lis. Frederiksen) and two were given to Australian magazines.One two VOGUE in which she wore Georg Jensen (Danish ) and a jacket my Malene Birger (also Danish). Her interview in Women's weekly were all her clothes and jewelry, the vast majority of which were Danish designers, despite the fact that the interview was not about fashion.
Genevieve said:
How many photoshoots have Mathilde and Letizia done to represent and promote Belgian and Spanish fashion, respectively? ... None. They've both represented and promoted fashion designers from their own countries by wearing their designs while performing engagements within their countries and abroad. No need for splashy photoshoots or endless puckered-lipped muggings for the camera to do that. Mary should take note.
Your point is irrelevant for two reasons. One being that members of the Belgian and Spanish royal houses seldomly give interviews let alone photo shoots. Second, none of Mathilde's charities have anything pertaining to Belgian fashion or design, and well Letizia has no charities for her to be compared.

Genevieve said:
How many Argentinians now know about the Netherlands because of Maxima? How many photo shoots and interviews did Maxima have to do to achieve that?.

I suspect quite a few as her life is regularly in various Argentine press.

Genevieve said:
I pick promoting Mary. Denmark was doing fine before Mary just as it would've done fine without Mary.

Not exacly. Infact Denmark is doing even better because of Mary.

" There is no doubt that a certain Mary effect has taken place,’ Jørgen Møllegaard Kristensen, general consul at Denmark´s Consulate in Sidney, said. ‘Denmark has received an enormous and positive attention in the media before and after the wedding, and it has made it much easier to market and sell Danish products.’"
 
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Warren said:
And you didn't cast a single vote for Victoria?

I'm shocked.

Two-timing, my butt(that sounds funny if you don´t know the phrase) I would if she were in any polls but I haven´t seen her for awhile now.
 
in the Princess Unplugged article From THe Australian i was wondering why she was called princess and not crown princess
i have seen this on several accuations in the australien media
 
Yes, the Australian media always does this. Sometimes they also call her "Princess Mary Donaldson". Call me pedantic but I find this annoying. They just don't make that distinction of Crown Princess for some reason! :rolleyes:
 
Genevieve said:
How many Argentinians now know about the Netherlands because of Maxima? How many photo shoots and interviews did Maxima have to do to achieve that?

I don't think argentinians know more about The Netherlands because Maxima. They only know that a dutch prince married an argentinian woman. I am married with a dutch man and only some people who meet him tell him about Maxima but they don't know much about The Netherlands. By the other hand, when I am in Holland and people know I am argentinian they can talk a lot about Argentina because Maxima.
So in Mary's case I think that danish got more information about Australia than australians about Denmark
 
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KatieLouise said:
Yes, the Australian media always does this. Sometimes they also call her "Princess Mary Donaldson". Call me pedantic but I find this annoying. They just don't make that distinction of Crown Princess for some reason!

I guess it reflects on the quality of the journalism and the lack of research by journalists/reporters.

It just shows again that in certain areas the members of TRF have a greater knowledge of the facts than the newspaper writers.

And its not just Crown Princess Mary; even today in one of our newspapers a Charles and Camilla wedding report referred to "HRH the Queen", when it is screamingly obvious to everyone (!) that the title is 'HM'.

When journalists get such basic facts wrong, you have to wonder about the accuracy of the stories they write.
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I didn't realize Mary has done so many magazine photo shoots. This is quite out of the ordinary isn't it? She is a lovely lady but it is coming across to me that she is more about glamour than anything.
 
Warren said:
I guess it reflects on the quality of the journalism and the lack of research by journalists/reporters.

It just shows again that in certain areas the members of TRF have a greater knowledge of the facts than the newspaper writers.

And its not just Crown Princess Mary; even today in one of our newspapers a Charles and Camilla wedding report referred to "HRH the Queen", when it is screamingly obvious to everyone (!) that the title is 'HM'.

When journalists get such basic facts wrong, you have to wonder about the accuracy of the stories they write..
I couldn't agree more! A lot of "journalism" of today is really under all standards... I think there's a lot of buying articles from other magazines/newspapers in other countries (then just translating them) or from news agencies of the world - and when they do write articles of their own, I often find both the actual text quite lousy and sometimes the background cheks are under all critique...

That thing with 'HRH' Queen Elizabeth has occured numerous times, especially at Getty!

And one more thing, this time on the actual subject of this thread & discussion :) - time for Crown Princess Mary to start doing the royal groundwork, not just being the glamgirl on the cover so much all the time (even though the pics are always nice of course...).
 
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