Andrea, Pierre, Charlotte and Friends


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ulisse said:
In 2009 can anybody try a young girl for her political opinions ? It's a shame, Pierre and Beatrice are surrounded by envy.
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I don't think that they are surrounded by envy,she's very beautiful but I don't like her,that's it,is just my opinion.But together they are a very beautiful couple.
 
While I am sure some people envy their beauty and money, and I agree that Beatrice shouldn't be judged by parents and/or grandmother the issue for some is the hypocrisy that they see.

As Tosca mentioned...its hard for someone to believe in someone's sincerity about helping the people of Africa if it appears that you do nothing to help the people of Africa. Now if you are donating money or doing projects that no one sees...that's totally different. Now I would be curious to see why she said Monte Carlo sucked...is the glamour...the tourists...the abundance of money.....there could be a variety of reasons....but it does seem weird that you are hanging with the very people who are the embodiment of Monte Carlo.

But there are tons of people like that (as Moby pointed out) who preach global environment, helping third world countries, etc who go home to their nice chateaus, eating caviar and spending thousands on a dress.
 
She might have leftist leanings but also be just so blindly "in love" or infatuated with Pierre, and he has his own views and lifestyle, and they are having fun together and spending their parents' money, but are still entitled to their views. We can't fault a couple for being "in love." She can express her leftist views and still enjoy a luxurious life. There are many very Left thinkers who live luxuriously. Think of all the liberal-minded celebrities, and Princess Caroline herself.
 
Did I miss an interview? Where did she declare herself a communist? And what's so bad about that?
 
^I was wondering the same thing. It makes a huge difference. Did she say outright, "I am a Communist," and or does she merely claim political opinions that are of a Leftist/socialist/Marxist nature? Because those are very different things. It's one thing to be a socialist by definition, and another to be a Leftist or liberal thinker.
 
Just for the record, there are no real "by the book" communists in Italy...those that call themselves communists can be classified as an old school labour party, a little to the left of social democracy. And Beatrice didn't even vote for them but for a center-centerleft party (as she declared in several interviews).
 
Tosca said:
:lol::ROFLMAO:LOL! Why should the mafias target her? A young Miss Know-it-all, who is exceptionally contradictory: she declares herself to be a communist, then she's happily shacking up with one of the world's richest young man, the son of a Hereditary Princess. She play the moralist about the Italian Prime Minister when she's born out of the wedlock (which prevents her from being a "Countess"), and her father divided himself between his wife and Beatrice's mother: see post. Her granmother cheated her husband with a painter for 20 years. Her husband filed for divorced when their affair became common knowledge...
Besides Beatrice lived with a man nearly 20 years her senior for some years. I can't recall if she still was of age back then. I hope so!
Talk about morality!:rolleyes:

In Italy nobody cares about her, so she's gone blabbing to the foreign press.
If she's that smart and a communist that cares for Africa, why doesn't she accompany Caroline in her charity travels? Or goes to work with an organization in order to help the African children, instead of cruising the Mediterranean on Caroline's yacht? If I'm correct in a interview she stated that Monte Carlo sucks. Why is she still hanging around the Grimaldis?
She'a sly one. She loves being in the limelight. Do you know what she is dubbed by the Italian media, including her left wing friends? Beatroce = Beatrocious.
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Oh dear. So there I was going into raptures about this young woman and now I read that she has declared herself a BOLSHIE??!:eek: Does she even fully comprehend what that means??

Because I have done some research on her illustrious and ancient family..and she would need to renounce pretty much her entire heritage to be true to her Communist beliefs...there are two CARDINALS and a beautiful island palace for heavens sake! And what about all those luxury holidays, fine clothes, the rich aristo boyfriend?

Oy. Many of us say foolish things when we are young.....

Thanks Tosca, for the enlightening info. You are quite correct, I only read about Signorina Borromeo in the French press(which seems besotted with her)because I cannot read Italian.

Note to Tatiana Santo Domingo...PLEASE choose a different shade of lipstick! She is actually a lovely girl but that garish slash of red across her mouth is just not flattering!
 
Renata4711 said:
An interesting article, well spotted - thanks!
It's made me see Alex Dellal in a different light......
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Same here...Lord knows I have not been a big fan of his but this article has caused me to see him in a new and better light.

I am slooooowly, very slowly, warming up to him as a worthy consort to our lovely Charlotte!

I think he looks much better with longer hair, it takes some of the attention away from his face in general and his nose in particular.:ermm:

But he sounds very intelligent, and reasonably down to Earth.
 
Grace said:
Just for the record, there are no real "by the book" communists in Italy...those that call themselves communists can be classified as an old school labour party, a little to the left of social democracy. And Beatrice didn't even vote for them but for a center-centerleft party (as she declared in several interviews).
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Thanks for explaining that!
 
And now we need to move on.
 
In order to assist the moving-on process, I've deleted a few off-topic, non-English, and overtly political posts. Let's please keep the conversation on the topic of the Casiraghi siblings and their friends and leave Italian politics behind from now on.

Thanks

Elspeth
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Some speculative posts about the state of the relationship
of Charlotte Casiraghi's friends and Charlotte herself have been
deleted. Please remember that speculation is not allowed according
to the TRF rules. Besides that please think twice before revealing
potentially private information.

Thanks for your understanding,
Iceflower
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I've already posted this in the Santo Domingo Family thread, but I guess it wouldn't be a major problem if I post it here too.
Alejandro Santo Domingo is now Amanda Hearst new boyfriend. Some of the commentaries said that Amanda knows Tatiana and Co. is that true? are they friends? I've never seen them together.

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so it seems that both alejandro and his brother are going out (married) to people working in magazines of conde nast :)

are there any news about andrea's relationship with tatiana? are they still going out?
 
I would like to know that as well, Carlota. I think they are still going out, I mean, if they are not, it would have been in all maganizes around the globe. That was one kiss that can't destroy 5 years of relationship (or maybe it can, who knows...)
 
i'm always curious about if andrea and pierre have good male friends. when i look the pics i always see them with their girlfriends or girl friends of charlotte. why they always seen with girls?
 
Char of Monaco said:
oh i don't know but maybe they don't have any male friends!:)
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HUH?! There are plenty of pics of them w/male friends, including their step brothers, Stavros, the Santo Domingo men, on vacation, partying, etc. I think the 'razzi likes to get them on dates or with women, because that sells more pictures to papers and magazines.
 
 
In the third pic the (only) guy with the glasses reminds me of an acquaintance of mine!
 
azure said:
In the third pic the (only) guy with the glasses reminds me of an acquaintance of mine!
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You have nice acquaintances :)


You know, I sometimes feel like Charlotte and their brothers were movie stars. They look great, their gradma was a beauty star, they came from glamorous Monaco. I imagine Andrea and Tatiana in adventure story, some like Indiana Jones, they like travelling... Pierre maybe action films or drama. Charlotte could play in every film: drama (she's so serious, romantic movie, comedy... Ok, that's off topic but well... Nice dreams. I would go on their films with pleasure.
 
^^they sure look like movie stars. They are even more handsome/beautiful than a lot of Hollywood stars that we have today. We only would need to see if they have talent (you know, beauty is not everything)
And about the male friends, of course they have, both male and female. The Casiraghis seems to be very friendly people, so I assume (as I see in pics) that they have a lot of friends, no matter gender.
 
:ROFLMAO: I think that too!!

Well, i am definitely sure that they have male friends..
That's logical and because we don't see them together with them, it doesn't mean that they don't have..
They may meet each other in the Uni or for walks, holidays and propably the papz aren't there!
But surely, they do have male friends! And there are a lot of pictures proving that !
 
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Stella McCartney and Alex Dellal attend the private view of
'Quilt' by Ronan and Erwan Bouroullec, at Established & Sons
on September 22, 2009 in London, England.

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Nathalie Cox said:
^^they sure look like movie stars. They are even more handsome/beautiful than a lot of Hollywood stars that we have today. We only would need to see if they have talent (you know, beauty is not everything)
And about the male friends, of course they have, both male and female. The Casiraghis seems to be very friendly people, so I assume (as I see in pics) that they have a lot of friends, no matter gender.
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They are not only more handsome and beautiful than MOST Hollywood stars....they are a hundred times more glamourous and interesting!

I'd love to read about them vs the usual Jessica Simpson, Nicole Ritchie, Brangelina...whom I have no interest in whatsoever.:sad:
 
Don't know what's going on with her and Andrea, but Tatiana looks good regardless. Especially smiling! Eugenie...the outfit...:ermm: But Magherita looks lovely as always.
 
I'd love to read about them vs the usual Jessica Simpson, Nicole Ritchie, Brangelina...whom I have no interest in whatsoever.:sad:
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Well ok I can understand wanting to read about them over Jessica, Nicole but Brangelina? Really Angelina and Brad are very interesting people. They take interest in good causes and bring them to light. I just cant see why you would put them in the same sentence as Jessica and Nicole. And besides what so interesting about Tatiana and Eugine is it? They are socialites. They don't do much except go to and parties and smile for the cameras. Sorry I don't mean to sound mean but I am an Angelina fan. :D :ROFLMAO:Sorry I just felt like I needed to say something on her behalf.:flowers:
 
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