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Old 04-20-2011, 03:14 PM
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I'm hoping for just the right shade of white - you know, not the same white as Diana's, not the white that usually shows up in Princess dresses, but something that will enhance Kate's lovely skin tones.
I'm hoping she wears the right shade of white too...the right shade IMO is white...not eggshell, not off white, not mother of pearls, but white. A lot of the princess didn't wear the correct shade...Victoria was the only that came close to the wearing "white" IMO. Mary's dress was nowhere near white...not sure if it was intentional or accidental.
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I'm hoping she wears the right shade of white too...the right shade IMO is white...not eggshell, not off white, not mother of pearls, but white. A lot of the princess didn't wear the correct shade...Victoria was the only that came close to the wearing "white" IMO. Mary's dress was nowhere near white...not sure if it was intentional or accidental.
According to the Danish Monarchy Web site, her dress was white but with a mother-of-pearl shine. And the latter was the most visible, so I suspect intentional.
Victoria's dress was cream-coloured.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:35 PM
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On Catherine's skin white would make her look ghastly. She needs to wear an ivory or an eggshell or an ecru or something a bit darker than "OMG virgin white".

Brides need to wear a dress that compliments their skin color if they are staying in the "white" family, not go for pure snow white because they need to look like a virginal angel being led to the altar. On Victoria's skin, white looked best. Had she worn something darker, it wouldn't have looked right. You can't have one thing look great on every single person wearing it.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:57 PM
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I'm hoping she wears the right shade of white too...the right shade IMO is white...not eggshell, not off white, not mother of pearls, but white. A lot of the princess didn't wear the correct shade...Victoria was the only that came close to the wearing "white" IMO. Mary's dress was nowhere near white...not sure if it was intentional or accidental.
That was indeed intentional. The dress had to match the color of the lace from Queen Ingridīs mother.
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:43 PM
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White silk cannot produce a true/pure white color, so most wedding dresses are actually some shade/variation of white, ivory or cream.
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:01 PM
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I would love to see something to Mette-Marit's wedding gown. It was so simple and understated and will show off her enviable figure.
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:51 PM
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And of course, what other fabric would I like better than some sort of silk? Since it cannot be that ghastly bright white, perhaps that's why I like it. She should not look as if she's wearing photocopier paper white, is what I'm saying (she won't, I trust her).

I agree the Mette-Marit gown is exactly what I have in mind, and I think it's going to be in that ballpark, with a different neckline and however long a train she's chosen. If it is 10 feet, I think the old Abbey will not overwhelm it, in fact, it will be poignant to see Kate walk down the aisle without the incredibly long train (which tends to get the viewers very involved in just watching how it makes it down the aisle).

Kate should be the focus, and not because she's broken some record or thought up something altogether new (I sure hope they are not too avant garde and that the dress is elegant and stunning, not ground breaking).
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:56 PM
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Libelula Denies Royal Wedding Dress Claims

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Old 04-20-2011, 09:08 PM
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Well, Libelula sure got lots of hits on her website/lookbook, regardless of whether she's the designer or not (I never could get in, kept getting a too much web traffic page). And now, I guess I'll forget about it and cling to the next piece of random gossip about the darn dress.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:52 PM
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On Catherine's skin white would make her look ghastly. She needs to wear an ivory or an eggshell or an ecru or something a bit darker than "OMG virgin white".

Brides need to wear a dress that compliments their skin color if they are staying in the "white" family, not go for pure snow white because they need to look like a virginal angel being led to the altar. On Victoria's skin, white looked best. Had she worn something darker, it wouldn't have looked right. You can't have one thing look great on every single person wearing it.
I completely totally 100% concur. I think it is generally very unflattering. I think oyster color or pearl white(the stunningly beautiful color of the late Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy's bridal gown) is a close to pure white that I have ever liked on fair skin. I also loved Victoria's...but from some angles that gown also looked slightly pearl colored.

It really does does depend on a woman's skin tone.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:23 PM
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Neither Audrey Hepburn nor Jackie Kennedy were vamps. A vamp is a seductress, a sexually-charged woman. While both Audrey and Jackie were beautiful women with great personal style, neither of those things describe either their personalities, or the way they dressed.
In the day they ruled the world they were considred vamps in the sense and meaning we gave it then.Which has evidently changed because you saythe contrary to all my commentaries. They wore pants and fire engine red lipstick along with heavy eye makeup. Audrey had her hair perpetually cut very short.Which is what vamps did.They first cut their hair......She smoked from a cigarette holder.She was bohemain and so is Kate because she does not gather impressions but is her own person.She appeared the seductress.with her hoop earrings.Audrey did. not to you because she probably did not have today's criteria... but then yes She wore backless dresses. and sandals that tied provocatively. up her legs. Jackie also was a vamp in that her hair was also chopped and she smoked and wore pants and went without crinolines.She and Audrey wore black publicly.....very few did that...... Sorry implants to us were not about vamps and they did ooze a certain sex appeal...... Kate is not a Grace clone who was very classic and clean scubbed. very virginal.. Kate has sex appeal for sure.jmo that is why I used vamp for her there are possibilities there.
It does describe them and their personalities as a timewarp divides us.Kate wears boots? dark hose- etc.heavy eye makeup.she has the leanings of a vamp. She maybe designing her wedding gown and that is like Elinor Glynn..
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I completely totally 100% concur. I think it is generally very unflattering. I think oyster color or pearl white(the stunningly beautiful color of the late Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy's bridal gown) is a close to pure white that I have ever liked on fair skin. I also loved Victoria's...but from some angles that gown also looked slightly pearl colored.

It really does does depend on a woman's skin tone.

I agree; a very bright white is trying for almost everyone. But off-white often has an undertone of blue, yellow, peach...the correct shade will flatter any skin tone, the problem is finding it!

As for the bridesmaids, I'm also hoping for blue- hopefully the same Saxon Blue as the Garter Sash (which William is sure to wear).
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:11 AM
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Wow, I clearly remember when the word "vamp" was common, but no one I knew would have ever applied that word to Audrey Hepburn or Jackie Kennedy. In fact, everyone knew (and this can be confirmed by looking at women's magazines and tabloids of the day) that Audrey was a gamine type, and casting calls went out for gamines - and people like Leslie Carron showed up. When the casting call went out for vamps - Jackie Kennedy types and gamines were not wanted.

There were two styles of vamp: dark and blonde.

Jackie Kennedy was a type all by herself, and after the inauguration, there was a great call in television, film, print advertising and other media for "Jackie Kennedy types."

The same phrase is still used today by working casting directors, as well as by many parts of the public (from a wide swath of ages, I'd say).
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:15 AM
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I am trying to figure how out in a discussion of Catherine's wedding dress...we ended up talking about vamps?

I think every woman wants to look beautiful and desired on their wedding day, but vampish is not something I think applies to Catherine. She comes across as somewhat conservative and not that daring in her dress. Hardly thoughts that apply to those who are vamps. Oh and for the record, Jackie Kennedy and Audrey Hepburn not vamps. They were classic elegant beauties who IMO prove the adage that you can be just as desired wearing clothes as not wearing clothes.

Elizabeth Taylor and Marilyn Monroe women who to me exude sexuality (but not in a vulgar way) are somewhat vamp like. Grace Kelly the actress was also not a vamp nor was Princess Grace of Monaco.
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I would never apply the word vampish to Catherine - even when she was doing the lingerie modeling thing at school.

And i just saw a site with a picture of the Crown Princess Victoria wedding dress where the caption says the dress is cream, but when I ask people who happen to be here to look at, they say it's white. It's in between white and cream, and it's just a lovely color. The dress is beautiful too. I think Kate will have to find her own way of making a similar look her own (the flowers at Crown Princess Victoria's wedding are amazing).
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:44 AM
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Actually I can see Catherine wearing something similar to Victoria. I thought Victoria's dress was perfect for her. Classic clean lines...elegant and not too much. Of course, I would want a different tiara...but again I think the tiara that Victoria wore was perfect as well as a homage to her mother and heirtage.
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Most brides nowadays wear off white, ivory, or diamond white. Very few brides choose to wear stark white. Simply because it is just not that flattering on most skin tones. Diana's dress was Ivory, Sarah Ferguson's cream..... I believe Kate's will be somewhere in that range.

Besides, now that I think about it, If Kate were to wear white... it would invariably bring up the virgin issue and how inappropriate it would be for her to get married in virginal white.....Just sayin'.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:39 AM
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I don't think matters...the only time the concept of a woman not wearing white at her wedding was if this was her 2nd wedding.
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These days I think the only qualification in wearing white, winter white, oyster, champagne, cream, etc. is how it looks on the Bride, and to be honest that can end up being a big surprise.

My niece has very white blonde and honey hair, her skin is so fair it is almost translucent and so we all thought white was a definite non-starter.

She tried on some incredible creations and one in cream was just amazing, but as we said, "the dress will look fabulous gliding up the aisle, unfortunately you have just disappeared! Needless to say she ended up wearing exactly the same style but in winter white and she looked fabulous.

The point I am trying to make is that we cannot tell what colour or shade will look good or not on Kate. Even she probably didn't really understand until she started looking for her dress.

So I actually have no preconceived idea of what shade she will wear. That will probably be one of the biggest surprises of the day.
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Sophie Cranston really took her time denying that she was the designer of choice for the wedding dress!
I suppose she wanted to utilize the priceless publicity, and I can't blame her for that- all the speculation put her company on the map!
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