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Old 01-16-2014, 12:50 PM
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It is surprising news. I wish a lot of luck and happiness to Princess Maria Teresia and Mr. Wilson. Mr. Wilson seems to be an accomplished artist.
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:36 PM
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According to royalmusings the engagement was announced in the Daily Telegraph of January 16th.

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Hugo Wilson was mentioned in this Daily Mail article (2011) about the 50 most powerful posh people under 30:

Britain's 50 most powerful posh people under 30: From the catwalk to Westminster | Mail Online

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Hugo Wilson, 28, artist. Regarded as one of Britain’s brightest young artistic talents, his work has been shown at the top Frieze Art Fair. Went to Stowe School and is the beau of Lucian Freud’s great-niece Martha.
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:12 PM
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According to royalmusings the engagement was announced in the Daily Telegraph of January 16th.
Mr H.J.A.S. Wilson and Princess Maria Theresia von Thurn und Taxis - Engagements Announcements - Telegraph Announcements
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:19 PM
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Thanks for the link!
Mr. Wilson appears to be relatively handsome. Marrying the full-blooded Princess, who lives in Schloss St. Emmeram further enhances his poshness.
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Old 01-18-2014, 10:56 AM
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Congratulations to the couple !
Finally there will be a TNT wedding, I was nearly giving up hope. I wonder what Princess Gloria thinks about her future son-in-law. He's not aristocracy, and she believes in marriages amoung aritocrats. On the other hand Princess Gloria loves, understands and collects modern art. In that respect she might be thrilled with her daughter's choice. At least I hope so.

P.S. Many TRF-readers might know me as an tiara addict. So I can't stop myself from commenting on a probable wedding tiara for Maria Theresia. I hope that she'll wear one! The empire tiara was once put up for auction, but didn't reach the asked price. So that one should still be in the family. (Unfortunately Princess Gloria's wedding tiara is gone )
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Congratulations to Princess Maria Theresia and Hugo!
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Old 01-18-2014, 12:53 PM
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Both of them are nice and educated people, besides they seem to be in love and share the same values. I hope their marriage will be very happy.
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I have to say I'm a bit disappointed in Furstin Gloria. Her first born child is engaged and presumably very much in love, and she has nothing, nothing at all to say.
The family has been one of my favourites ever since I read an interview with Gloria about the Sotheby sale in an old magazine, and the lack of comment from mother, sister or even Uncle Alexander seems out of character.
There are at least a dozen reasons why the family might not be 100% estatic.
However the lack of a basic statement like: "I hope my daughter/sister will be happy and that they will have a wonderful life together" makes me wonder if there is not something more to the situation than the fact that Hugo is not noble, has divorced parents, has announced the engagement himself in Britain and presumably is not catholic.
Whatever happens I hope MT finds happiness.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:24 PM
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I doubt she would be that unprogressive when it comes to her childrens luck. And Glorias parents divorced also.
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I don't know. From the interviews I read and listened to I think Gloria values a 'picture perfect background'. Even though her parents, sister and best friend have all been divorced I still think that she disapproves of people who would put their children through it. I'm catholic so I know very well how much the church believes in sticking in a marriage through thick and thin. I think I read somewhere that divorcing Gloria's mother (when her brothers were still teenagers) caused discord between gloria and her father. Also its undeniable that although Furst Johannes could be difficult at times Gloria stuck by him. Perhaps I am wrong that it would be a black mark against Hugo in Gloria's eyes but I'm sure she has very firm views about the sanctity of marriage.
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Old 01-20-2014, 05:06 PM
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Her brother said in an interview that Gloria can be the most understanding person and then again very reactionary lol
Well, maybe MT wants it low-key or they prepare a proper engagement announcement.
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Her brother said in an interview that Gloria can be the most understanding person and then again very reactionary lol
Well, maybe MT wants it low-key or they prepare a proper engagement announcement.
You are probably right Furstin Taxis they might not be giving quotes due to MT being quite a private person.

I suppose it seems a bit strange to announce it so very formally in 'The Times' and then say and do nothing.

I could understand if it was a Bunte/Bild exclusive (where a happy private family secret had been accidently let out of the bag) and they didn't comment so as to let MT do her own thing in her own time. When I saw the announcement on the RF of the Times/Telegraph announcement I did think there would be a nice comment from Gloria in the mittelbayerische zeitung.

MT seems such a private person and as her life is in London I dont think anybody would expect the posed photograph and interview format that we see with other royal/aristocratic couples.
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I doubt she would be that unprogressive when it comes to her childrens luck. And Glorias parents divorced also.
Gloria's personality and lifestyle seems to have changed drastically after the death of her husband Prince Johannes. She has become conservative, almost reactionary, and has adopted a sort of militant Catholicism. She has managed her late husband's estate brilliantly and she and her children are as wealthy as ever. Yet she no longer wears makeup or dresses in couture.

This from a young woman who led an almost giddy lifestyle and whose taste for the excess and the high life caused her to be a staple of the tabloids-who dabbed her "Princess TNT" during the 1980's.
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I think the loss of her husband made her very protective about her children and in wanting the best for them she perhaps hopes for financial security for them too.

I think even today she has to use all her energy creating publicity and buisness for her beloved st emmeram.

Perhaps Hugo, although an established artist will not make for many years (if ever) the kind of money to match what MT has from Furst Johannes.

What other people have claimed (and what even Gloria has hinted at) is that Gloria sought Gotha husbands for her daughters. This is more to do about financial security rather than aristocratic bloodlines being kept pure. Gloria has derived a career out of being the Furstin Von Thurn und Taxis.

Although it seems quite Victorian (and in some ways Gloria is quite retro) - for Gloria being the wife and mother of landowners, and the keeper of his family's heritage, antiques, art, estate , is a career that is more lasting than being a vogue columnist or an artist.

There is also the fact that he is not able to provide the financial connections that for example Mick Flick did (I think he helped with financial descisions in her widowhood and perhaps still may do as he celebrated this last christmas with her)

As a catholic and an aristocrat Gloria believes marriage is for life and in the bad times (husband an alcoholic/ill/deceased) you work to preserve what generations before you have created and make provision for your children's future. She expects a husband to provide the canvas on which the wife works, and not have MT buy the home Hugo lives in.

Even today Gloria is a fun person who mixes with artists, writers, singers. Black or white, rich or poor, gay or straight-if you are fun you are welcome in her home.

Still from what I have seen of Gloria over the years I can tell you this: If MT had become engaged to George Percy the catholic heir to a great and ancient British dukedom nobody would have prevented her shouting it from the roof tops.
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I : If MT had become engaged to George Percy the catholic heir to a great and ancient British dukedom nobody would have prevented her shouting it from the roof tops.
I for one would have been very happy if this scenario had occurred. Oh well.
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Although it would have been nice for MT to join a noble and ancient family (and even more enjoyable for us looking at the wedding photos ). I really do think she has found someone who she can be happy with. I'm sure most of the single royals in these forums have enough pressure from their family to make a good match without us adding to it.

There is a video of Hugo is anyone cares to see

Hugo Wilson's Parabiosis on Vimeo

I think most gotha families can take gloria in their stride - I do wonder what his parents will make of Gloria and her Jake and Dinos Chapman art. If the wedding is in Regensburg the wedding is sure to be interesting
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[Gloria]... has become conservative, almost reactionary, and has adopted a sort of militant Catholicism.
True to a certain extent, but she is also quite contradictory. For example, while she is very much against gay rights as such, she is very comfortable with and mixes in the same circles as gay men (see earlier posts for evidence). In her wonderful blogs a few years ago Princess Elisabeth was often commenting on her mother's contrariness and amalgam of opposites in her conservative and liberal views. That's just Gloria.

Regarding the silence following the engagement announcement, it's no secret that Gloria wished that her children marry within the Gotha. Maybe she needs some time to get her head around it. We have no idea of the family discussions or tensions or whatever that led up to and/or followed the Times notice.
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It is hard to see what parts of Gloria are part of the act and what part is real. If she really wanted her children to marry fellow-nobles she would have given them another upbringing, like the Belgian-based catholic royals/nobility. Instead her children seem to have become creative and people of the world. Not hiding in their own cocoon with their fellow-nobles/opus dei members.

That she mixes with gay men (here) and according to some even married one ánd condems them to burn for all eternity is rather odd. She gave the wildest and most expensive SDR&R parties in the 80-ties and now became all religious. She claims to be a devout christian, yet had no problems in hanging around with arms dealers. A clever woman by most accounts and yet she thinks that the spread HIV/AIDS in Africa is caused Africans corpulating a lot due to the heat. An amalgram of opposites is a nice way to describe it, though I can think of a less flattering term. I never know whether to find her unbearable or irresistable.
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[QUOTE=Marengo;1635172] "If she really wanted her children to marry fellow-nobles she would have given them another upbringing, like the Belgian-based catholic royals/nobility. Instead her children seem to have become creative and people of the world. Not hiding in their own cocoon with their fellow-nobles/opus dei members".

I think Marengo is right . Although Furst Johannes was quite social, the people he mixed with were quite "high society" types like Princess Soraya and Gunther Sachs. Gloria's aquaintances have always been a more diverse bunch.

I think there was an effort by Gloria to make MT, Elisabeth and Albert "citizens of the world" and to mix with people because they were interesting, and not because they came from the same sphere as you. The children when they were young seemed to visit the US a lot with their parents and apparently were looked after by a Scottish nanny for most of their childhood.

To broaden their horizions Gloria sent MT and Elisabeth to a British boarding school for 2-3 years, whilst taking Albert away from his school Regensburg to complete his schooling in Rome (although I think he almost went to school in Britain too). Later on ofcourse the girls were educated in Spain. whilst Albert went to university in Edinburgh.

Considering that the US and Britain has such a pull for the family, it makes sense that both girls might settle down with an American/British husband in a major capital city rather than with a Graf on a small estate. I'm sure whomsoever they chose will be perfect.
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I hope Albert choses wisely, as he seems more inclined to bow to family pressure/put off the question indefinely/get caught.
There was something about Xenia's family background (and love life) which seemed a bit murky, I hope this relationship will never cross the lines of friendship again.
I hope Albert has sons because I hate to think of anything bad happening to him, and poor Gloria tossed out into the snow by a distant cousin after all her hard work at St Emmeram.
Perhaps the title goes to the male heir but everything else Albert can leave to a nephew (which would be Furst Johannes' grandson albeit in the female line)?
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