Will Camilla ever become Queen? - Page 2

BeatrixFan · #21 12-02-2005, 05:21 PM

What? She's married to the future King. She didn't steal anyone. What is she supposed to do? Lock herself in the Tower crying over a portrait of Diana. Let's have some reality here.

Princejohnny25 · #22 12-02-2005, 05:23 PM

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I really hope she doesn't become a queen.I mean stealing someone's man is one thing, but bluntly trying to take someone's place is another. If she has any class or some sort of a consious, she should politly deny the request of ever becoming a queen.:)

Ill be one of the first to take this on. First, she didnt steal another persons man. The marriage fell apart and Charles went to Camilla for comfort and they fell deeply in love. She is not trying to take anyones place. She married the heir to the throne. It is her job to be a Princess of the realm and future Queen Consort. She has not taken over a motherly position either. Camilla and her stepsons have a warm friendly relationship. She has plenty of class and there is no need for politics to get involved in the monarchy to punish someone for their past mistakes. Forgive, Forget and move on.

BeatrixFan · #23 12-02-2005, 05:23 PM

And you live in the USA going by your profile. She won't be your Queen so what are you worrying about?

Princejohnny25 · #24 12-02-2005, 05:26 PM

Lets not get nasty. Lets keep this serious and intresting. It may not affect her but her opinion wont change british law either. So, we are all allowed our opinion as long as they are explained and open minded.

corazon · #25 12-02-2005, 05:30 PM

for the law, yes she will be the next CONSORT queen, but like a said in another thread, in this moment the only person that know if camilla will be queen is the queen elizabeth and blair, many people want see camilla queen and another people not but only the queen have the answer.

polop · #26 12-02-2005, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Princejonnhy25

Ill be one of the first to take this on. First, she didnt steal another persons man. The marriage fell apart and Charles went to Camilla for comfort and they fell deeply in love. She is not trying to take anyones place. She married the heir to the throne. It is her job to be a Princess of the realm and future Queen Consort. She has not taken over a motherly position either. Camilla and her stepsons have a warm friendly relationship. She has plenty of class and there is no need for politics to get involved in the monarchy to punish someone for their past mistakes. Forgive, Forget and move on.

Some comfort! If all the worlds men went to OTHER women for "comfort" I think we would have a problem. Fine, marry the "heir to the throne", but aren't there some ethics that go farther than that? She should step down for the morality of it.:)

Princejohnny25 · #27 12-02-2005, 05:35 PM

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for the law, yes she will be the next CONSORT queen, but like a said in another thread, in this moment the only person that know if camilla will be queen is the queen elizabeth and blair, many people want see camilla queen and another people not but only the queen have the answer.

LOL. You have really convinced yourself that that is the truth. The truth is right in front of you. You cant keep running from it and making a dream world for the future. First, Blair has nothing to do with whether she will be Queen Consort. No Prime Minister has anything to do with it. She WILL be Queen Consort. Simple as that. That is the law and the church must follow the law and crown her. Also, Queen EII has nothing to do with it. And even if she did the Queen has warmed to Camilla and i think she is helping Camilla with the her future job of Queen Consort. The Queen is trying her hardest to make Camilla an importent senior royal. They will be King and Queen Consort if they are both alive when the queen dies. Nothing else too it. They will be and no one else has a say.

Princejohnny25 · #28 12-02-2005, 05:39 PM

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Some comfort! If all the worlds men went to OTHER women for "comfort" I think we would have a problem. Fine, marry the "heir to the throne", but aren't there some ethics that go farther than that? She should step down for the morality of it.:)

Charles wasnt the only one to go to someone else for comfort. Diana did too. They both went there seperate ways and found love somewhere else. That was more than ten years ago. The ethics and morals have nothing to do with it. They are human and many people have divorced and found others. Why should someone step down because of "morality" when they have shown themselves to be excellent royals. Why is it that one event in one chapter of their lives will damn them forever and ruin there lives. We have all messed up but have moved on and grown up and learned from our mistakes. So have they.

BeatrixFan · #29 12-02-2005, 05:40 PM

Do you know Johnny, you're wasting your breath. Really. When will you people learn that tradition doesn't change because you liked some leggy blonde bit. Camilla is married to OUR future King and she will be OUR future Queen and that is that. You can bring morality into it as much as you like but when all is said and done, she will be Queen and that is that. Finished and over. It seems that the people intent on Camilla not being Queen don't even live in the UK or in one of our realms so with all due respect, what on earth has it got to do with you if she becomes OUR Queen or not?

corazon · #30 12-02-2005, 05:40 PM

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LOL. You have really convinced yourself that that is the truth. The truth is right in front of you. You cant keep running from it and making a dream world for the future. First, Blair has nothing to do with whether she will be Queen Consort. No Prime Minister has anything to do with it. She WILL be Queen Consort. Simple as that. That is the law and the church must follow the law and crown her. Also, Queen EII has nothing to do with it. And even if she did the Queen has warmed to Camilla and i think she is helping Camilla with the her future job of Queen Consort. The Queen is trying her hardest to make Camilla an importent senior royal. They will be King and Queen Consort if they are both alive when the queen dies. Nothing else too it. They will be and no one else has a say.

i not sure about nothing, read my post, FOR THE LAW YES; SHE WILL BE QUEEN, but we no have the answer, the only person that know what do is the queen. if the queen was the charles's abdication (I not saying if this is true) the parliamnent may be say she is right, may be not and the queen wath that camilla and charles was king and queen in the furure, WE DONT KNOW, no-one of us talk with elizabeth for know WHAT she want.
And I said again, for the law yes, she will be queen.

selrahc4 · #31 12-02-2005, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by polop

I really hope she doesn't become a queen.I mean stealing someone's man is one thing, but bluntly trying to take someone's place is another.

The place she would be taking is Queen Consort, last held by the late Queen Mother. The "place" has been vacant and unavailable since 1952 and I don't think anyone, the late Queen Mother included, thought that the place would never be held again.

BeatrixFan · #32 12-02-2005, 05:41 PM

It's nothing to do with the Queen! Thats the law. She can't stop Camilla being Queen. And so yes, We do know! We know exactly whats going to happen.

corazon · #33 12-02-2005, 05:43 PM

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Do you know Johnny, you're wasting your breath. Really. When will you people learn that tradition doesn't change because you liked some leggy blonde bit. Camilla is married to OUR future King and she will be OUR future Queen and that is that. You can bring morality into it as much as you like but when all is said and done, she will be Queen and that is that. Finished and over. It seems that the people intent on Camilla not being Queen don't even live in the UK or in one of our realms so with all due respect, what on earth has it got to do with you if she becomes OUR Queen or not?

you not are ALL, camilla is YOUR future queen, not for all. please, respect that for another people not is HER future queen. England have many people, for many camilla is the future queen for anothers not, is very simple.

polop · #34 12-02-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Princejonnhy25

Charles wasnt the only one to go to someone else for comfort. Diana did too. They both went there seperate ways and found love somewhere else. That was more than ten years ago. The ethics and morals have nothing to do with it. They are human and many people have divorced and found others. Why should someone step down because of "morality" when they have shown themselves to be excellent royals. Why is it that one event in one chapter of their lives will damn them forever and ruin there lives. We have all messed up but have moved on and grown up and learned from our mistakes. So have they.

If she does become the queen, as you say, I think that it will the end of monorachy in Britain. Can you imagine "Queen Camilla"????The sound of it makes me...

Princejohnny25 · #35 12-02-2005, 05:44 PM

No corazon the queen has nothing to do with it. The little hints that the Queen has given has shown approval over Camilla and that she wants Camilla to be a great asset to the monarchy and nation. Nothing can change the fact that Camilla will be Queen Consort exept death. The Queen would never ask Charles to renounce his rights or abdicate when she dies. She saw first hand what the abdication crisis did and she does not want that for the monarchy. I think I am waisting my breath. Simple answer to your original question polop. She will become Queen Consort and I can assure you that she will be called that and be crowned. The Palace has learned that people have accepted Camilla after being married and that they will accept her as Queen when she becomes one.

Aussie Princess · #36 12-02-2005, 05:46 PM

I think not using the title Princess of Wales showed great sensitivity. I think it was a good move, even if things hadn't happened the way they had, it would be a good move from anyone. I know legally she will be Queen, but I think she'd opt not to use that title for some reason. Just a feeling I get, but hey, I have been wrong before!:)

BeatrixFan · #37 12-02-2005, 05:46 PM

Corazon - I'm trying so hard to explain as simply as I can. When the Queen dies, Charles will become King. Whether you recognise him or not, thats what he'll be. King of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland etc etc etc. Camilla, as his wife, will be Queen. She will be Queen of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland. She will be the British Queen. She is the future Queen of every British subject and every subject in our foreign realms too. So yes, it's very simple - she will be Queen for the British - not for the Americans, not for the Germans, not for the French, for the British - thats her future position and if you don't like it then you better get used to it because it's going to happen.

corazon · #38 12-02-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by polop

If she does become the queen, as you say, I think that it will the end of monorachy in Britain. Can you imagine "Queen Camilla"????The sound of it makes me...

amen, i totally agree with you!

corazon · #39 12-02-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

Corazon - I'm trying so hard to explain as simply as I can. When the Queen dies, Charles will become King. Whether you recognise him or not, thats what he'll be. King of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland etc etc etc. Camilla, as his wife, will be Queen. She will be Queen of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland. She will be the British Queen. She is the future Queen of every British subject and every subject in our foreign realms too. So yes, it's very simple - she will be Queen for the British - not for the Americans, not for the Germans, not for the French, for the British - thats her future position and if you don't like it then you better get used to it because it's going to happen.

and if she can used the title? like duchess of windsor