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Old 11-05-2012, 08:46 PM
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Scooter I'm just taking a wild guess here, you don't like the duchess do you? lmao.

On another note, I am way younger than the duchess, and cannot stand the heat.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:00 PM
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I'm guessing the 40 degree heat in Longreach was the very dry heat you typically get in the inland regions here, and it's a lot easier to cope with than the humid heat you get on the coast. Not exactly comfortable, but nowhere near as debilitating as long as you are hydrated.

They both look wonderful. I'm looking forward to seeing coverage of them at The Cup this afternoon.
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Scooter is fine. I am a number of years older than the Duchess and when i I have to I endure "the heat"on many visits to places, except for businesss, that I would not go, I do it. If your have anything to say that is negative, you" hate them", not true. You are either are in the game or you are not. She is not a trooper, nor do I think she cares. She is hardly a delicate flower. Nor are any of us. But here she is, the next "queen", to delicate to travel to any place that is uncomfortable.
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I know Madame Royale and its a good thing. The same rules are applied very strictly when entering Northern Ireland. But on a personal level it was a first! but it was the efficiency of the airline service that amazed me - just get ont he next flight (Sydney to Brisbane) within 30 minutes. We sometimes struggle to that with a bus service!
I agree that it's a good thing, cepe.

In recent years our domestic and international carriers have caused us some grief. QANTAS was known as the world's safest airline for years but last year, failed to make the grade after a number of maintenance "hiccups" that effected mid air flights (not at all a time you want to find there to be a technical fault).

Often it has been blamed on poor maintenance reviews in south east Asia.

I was seated next to a newlywed couplefrom Britain on a flight back from Adelaide a few years ago and they were saying just how big they didn't realise Australia was until they found themselves flying over it. They knew it was big, but not that big! The gentleman in particular kept leaning across my lap (with his wife's permission!) to look at the country below. He was in awe of the sheer size of this country and it was a particularly hot summer as well. He really couldn't get his head around that for a country so big, there are only five states and two territories and that it takes days by car to reach some state borders.

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But here she is, the next "queen", to delicate to travel to any place that is uncomfortable.
Well, she's certainly proven you wrong with this tour alone. Travelling from the sub-continent tropics to the dry and arid heat of Australia's scorched plains. And it's actually quite humid today in Melbourne as well. She seems to have gotten on with the job perfectly well. Entirely capable and willing!

I am considerably younger than the both of you and I do not enjoy such heat for half an few hour let alone a few months of the year on and off.

I agree that Scooters comment was fine, and as much as I have no issue with Scooter at all personally, lets be honest; he isn't knwon for being particularly supportive of the woman and neither are you (which is your prerogative, respectively). It's no surprise that you would not view critical comments as being anything judegmental or negative if you happen to agree with them.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:15 PM
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Scooter is fine. I am a number of years older than the Duchess and when i I have to I endure "the heat"on many visits to places, except for businesss, that I would not go, I do it. If your have anything to say that is negative, you" hate them", not true. You are either are in the game or you are not. She is not a trooper, nor do I think she cares. She is hardly a delicate flower. Nor are any of us. But here she is, the next "queen", to delicate to travel to any place that is uncomfortable.
Well, I'm not a trooper either cos last time I was in 40 degrees I passed out! MAybe Camilla and I are just fair skinned, wilting types

EDIT: And perhaps knowing one's limitations is a good thing - imagine the headlines if she collapsed.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:48 PM
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I love this tour!

I can remember v clearly my only visit to Australia. ...... one person detained for not declaring an apple
As a rule you can't take fruit from one state to another and certain fruits (bananas for example) you can't even take from one part of a state into the area where they are grown. Given the potential for devastation of the agriculatural crops it is understandable although it seems a little over the top when you first come across it.

I too am looking forward to seeing the couple at the Melbourne Cup. I only wish they were coming to Brisbane so that I had the opportunity to see them.
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The royal couple have arrived at Flemington to a great deal of spectator enthusiasm. It took around 15 minutes to make their way inside, stopping to shake hundreds of hands. Many shouts for "Charlie" along the way. Something which amuses me is that when Australian's see members of the royal family in person, any prejudice and indifference goes out the window!

The couple were driven down the track in a white Lexus, escorted by six mounted Victoria Police bearing banner flag in hand.

Camilla made a real impression and looked a little awestruck by the reception outside. She wore Philip Treacy (naturally) and the pearl choker we saw her wear in Papua New Guinea late last week. HRH did not not wear a brooch, but the Melbourne Cup pin with a poppy held in place underneath.

Charles cutting a fine figure in a fitted duke blue pin stripped suit and yellow rose on his lapel (the yellow rose signifies the colour for the Cup Day meet).

They have now just met and spoken with the riding jockies of the Melbourne Cup and will shorlty be escorted to today's designated royal box, hosted in the Committee Room. In the Committee Room they shall continue to meet servicenmen/women and volunteers.

First photo's of the day..

http://www.gettyimages.com.au/editorial/camilla---duchess-of-cornwall-pictures#
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:14 AM
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Wow, is it really that bad? Its hard to believe that a little heat could cause someone to cancel appointments. Im not trying to be mean but its not like you are in the sinai desert. Maybe Im not quite understanding this, the Duchess is going to cancel engagements because she cant handle heat? Really? Are we sure it is that or could it be she just does not want to do it? Are people that sensitive to heat? I quess I just dont understand it. She can use parosols, maybe drink cold water and Im sure the car tney are in has air conditioning. Im just saying. Am I wrong? What is she going to do when she becomes Queen and has a schedule like the Queen has? The Queen was Camillas age once upon a time and Im sure she was a little uncomfortable and hot in some of the places she visited but I highly doubt she ever complained or put up a fuss. And if she did she kept it to herself. But being that she had to do what she had to, she forged on. I just think Camilla is being a tad silly. She might as well get used to it now.
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You'v got the wrong end of the stick I'm affarid Camilla is cancelling no engagements on this tour.

It was some years ago during an official visit throughout the Asian sub-continent where the tropic humidity was effecting her at length, that saw the Duchess pull out of the latter half of the tour.

Back to today's events..

The winning recipient, having just been presented with the cup from HRH the Duchess of Cornwall, took to the microphone and of course started his speech with 'Your Royal Highnesses' and proceeded to say 'the Prince and Princess..' before hastily rephrasing himself. Of course technically he would have been correct in addressing them both as the Prince and Princess of Wales, though because Charles' subsidary title of Cornwall is officially used by Camilla as her principal designation, I think that particular gentleman averted the prospect of unforeseen embarrassment for the Duchess, in particular.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:51 AM
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Your are right about Miss Susie O'Brien's big yawn of an article, Madame Royale. I've stopped reading the media reports of the visit, and am just enjoying the pictures and videos. What a wonderful welcome the royal couple got at Flemington this afternoon. I thought is was great to see the Duchess getting such a genuinely warm reception. In return she seemed relaxed and animated, enjoying all the action. I had a laugh at that near little slip of the Prince and Princess....

I saw the Prince of Wales this morning at the Australian Tapestry Workshop this morning in South Melbourne. Here is a report of the morning's activities:


After a humid, restless night of little sleep (thanks in no small part to my dog Bert snoring loud enough to wake the dead), I got up feeling tired and fractious. It was not hot this morning, just overcast and muggy. I decided to take Bert with me as he enjoys a good outing. So we got the train into Spencer Street and walked to South Melbourne, arriving with about an hour to spare before the Prince arrived. There were already people milling about, along with media crews and several Victoria Police officers. Bert and I settled down and I started to play "spot the undercover detective": it was not very difficult as they are pretty obvious. Eventually is was time to claim a position, and we got quite close to the front. There were lots of other dogs (some mutt in the front row got all the attention, but it was nowhere near as cute as my Bert). Soon enough there was a roar of motorcycles as the Victoria Police motorcycle squad arrived. Don't get me wrong, I think motorcycle outriders are a great way to escort a royal guest, but a dozen of them? No matter, before we knew it the Prince of Wales had arrived. There was a Christian group who started a chant of "we love you", complete with hand actions. I don't think the Prince quite knew what to make of them. The Prince made his way into the Australian Tapestry Workshop (stopping to pat the aforementioned mutt). I held Bert up for a look (he can be seen in some of the news reports, with his tongue hanging out), and he snorted and sneezed, all over the shoulder of a young man in front of me.

Once he was inside we made our way around the corner to where the Prince would depart. We got a good spot in the front row next to the car. I don't think the officials had expected such a large crowd and I noticed the police were in a little huddle discussing what to do. Then, to my disappointment, we were all told to go out onto the street. I did not move fast enough and ended up about ten metres away from the car. Then, with perfect timing, it started to rain. All these fair weather royalists ran for cover (I just want to say that I consider such actions unspeakably soft: a little bit of rain never hurt anyone). Giant gaps appeared along the road and Bert and I made our move. We nabbed a perfect position just opposite the royal car. There was no guarantee that the Prince would do a walkabout, particularly as it was now raining, but I was still happy to get a good view to wave goodbye. Before long the Premier of Victoria appeared at the door, so we knew the Prince would be out in a moment. An officious woman from Government House (who earlier was most unfriendly when I asked her from where the car would depart) unfurled the Prince of Wales standard on the front of the car. A woman, about two metres away from me, started yelling "CHARLES, COME OVER HERE", and, to my surprise, it seemed to work (probably helped by the rain stopping).

The Prince headed over to meet the crowd. He looked very tired, but was in good form chatting and laughing with everyone. He was wearing his remembrance poppy, and the lapel pin of a Knight of the Order of Australia. A woman told him how much she admires the work he has done at Poundbury and he seemed genuinely pleased. He stopped in front of me and shook my hand. "Welcome back to Melbourne, Your Royal Highness" I said. He looked at my backpack, and the chap behind me who also wore a backpack, and asked; "Are you cyclists? You're all carry those great big things on your backs". I told him I use mine to hold my dog's water and water bowl. He looked down at Bert and I said "this is Bert, Sir", "Bert?" he replied (at this stage Bert, not very impressed, was standing with his bum pointed at the Prince). The Prince then said "one of these days one of them is going to take off my hand." I reassured him that Bert was more likely to lick off his hand. He then moved on, and a young man behind me, holding up a copy of a book on the restoration of Dumfries House, congratulated him on all he had done for the house. The Prince looked really chuffed.

Then it was all over. The motorcycles were revving up, the car had crawled to the corner, and the officials were winding things up. The Prince got into the car and headed off for his next engagement at the MCG. Bert and I headed back to Spencer Street, stopping at a little park for Bert to prepare himself for the train trip home. I turned my back for a couple of seconds, and Bert went straight into the Yarra River. It is a little known fact that French Bulldogs cannot swim; they are top heavy and sink like a stone. I had images of having dive in to rescue him. But luckily he kept his foothold and came out when I called him. So all in all it was a very eventful morning. Bert is now sound asleep, oblivious to the fact that he has already appeared in a couple of news bulletins.


P.S. I have no photos of this morning. I discovered yesterday that my camera and old laptop have been stollen. Oddly enough, I found today more enjoyable without a camera. I was able to just sit back and enjoy the atmosphere without having to worry about getting the perfect photo. But here is a photo of Bert; he really was the cutest dog there today.

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How lovely Tom! It was so kind of you to relay the recollections of your morning.

I'm not surprised Charles was chuffed by mentions of Dumfries House, in particular. It really has been a labour of love for him. If not a stressful one. And I like that Charles wore his lapel pin of a Knight of the Order of Australia. Nice touch!

Charles seems to really enjoy connecting with people, even though he only ever has a matter of moments to do so. One can tell that it's important to him that he should acknowledge and engage.

What a wonderful morning for all those present. And Bert is adorable!!
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:24 AM
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Thanks for that report, Tom. I'm glad you and Bert had a good time and got to talk to HRH. I know what you mean about not having your camera with you; you are able to relax and take it all in and remember more than if you are trying to capture the image.

I cringed over the "Prince and Princess" thing. That bloke looked as though he might make a blunder, and he didn't disappoint me. It looked as though Camilla and Charles were both charming with their comments though.
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Wow, is it really that bad? Its hard to believe that a little heat could cause someone to cancel appointments. Im not trying to be mean but its not like you are in the sinai desert. Maybe Im not quite understanding this, the Duchess is going to cancel engagements because she cant handle heat? Really? Are we sure it is that or could it be she just does not want to do it? Are people that sensitive to heat? I quess I just dont understand it. She can use parosols, maybe drink cold water and Im sure the car tney are in has air conditioning. Im just saying. Am I wrong? What is she going to do when she becomes Queen and has a schedule like the Queen has? The Queen was Camillas age once upon a time and Im sure she was a little uncomfortable and hot in some of the places she visited but I highly doubt she ever complained or put up a fuss. And if she did she kept it to herself. But being that she had to do what she had to, she forged on. I just think Camilla is being a tad silly. She might as well get used to it now.
In answer to your question, yes, it can affect people that much and I know first hand, since I'm one of them. I can't handle humidity at all anymore and I ended up having to miss out on an Annual Family get together back during the August long weekend here in Canada thanks to it. Since heatstroke is a very real concern due to humidity sensitivity, which I ended up having a mild case of two years ago thanks to the extreme humidity we now have in the Summer, it is NOT at all silly and I actually find your comments a bit offensive. Not to mention lacking in understanding.

Moving on...

Camilla looks wonderful so far in the pictures of this tour that I've seen so far. *Love* the choker she wore to the races today. Gorgeous!!

I have to admit being *very* green w/envy of Charles' upcoming visit to WETA Workshop and his sneak peek of The Hobbit. Huge LOTR fan and I've attended a couple of conventions over the years that were a blast.

Sigh...So envious of HRH's upcoming visit to Middle Earth.
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Camilla looks wonderful so far in the pictures of this tour that I've seen so far. *Love* the choker she wore to the races today. Gorgeous!!
Agreed. She looks glowing and really happy.

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Sigh...So envious of HRH's upcoming visit to Middle Earth.
You and me both! To be where The Hobbit is actually being shot, to experience all of Tolkien's magic first-hand...
Darn, I'm totally envious too.
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I looked it up and it was indeed the Japan/Brunei/Indonesia tour that camilla pulled out of the royal tour cancelling the remainder of her engagements because the weather was too hot for her. We had a lively discussion about it in the thread dedicated to that tour. Here are 2 articles on it www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1071869/Camilla-cut-short-royal-tour-Asia-Prince-Charles-complaining-hot.html

www.topix.com/forum/world/indonesia/TVDLBLD7PT202E8QN

So let's hope she can soldier on this time.
Just to be clear, it was announced in advance of the tour that Camilla would not be visiting Indonesia, but only Japan and Brunei. She did not pull out mid-way through the tour, or change her plans subsequently. The Daily Mail used to be very negative about Charles & Camilla in those days, and never missed an opportunity to put a negative spin on a royal tory, though they seem to have cionsiderably softened their postion in recent years.
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The winning recipient, having just been presented with the cup from HRH the Duchess of Cornwall, took to the microphone and of course started his speech with 'Your Royal Highnesses' and proceeded to say 'the Prince and Princess..' before hastily rephrasing himself. Of course technically he would have been correct in addressing them both as the Prince and Princess of Wales, though because Charles' subsidary title of Cornwall is officially used by Camilla as her principal designation, I think that particular gentleman averted the prospect of unforeseen embarrassment for the Duchess, in particular.

Personally I was hoping he would continue. It would have truly made my day having early heard Phillip Treacy say that it was an honour to dress "the future Queen of England".
Its about time all this nonsense was put aside. Camilla IS the Princess of Wales and she will be Queen when the time comes.
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How cute is that !

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I for one was glad he corrected himself for the sake of avoiding the highly unecessary re-emergence of comparisons between Camilla and her predecessor which the media would have certainly pursued.
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I have just had an interesting discussion with my brother who was at Flemington today. He had the chance to speak to Camilla for about 2 minutes and said she was absolutely charming (and he is a staunch republican). He said that she was friendly and interested in everything and everyone. He said that she moved amongst the people with total ease and no airs or graces.
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Yes, I think you are right Madame Royale. When it was announced that they were attending the Melbourne Cup I feared there would be comparisons to the late Diana, Princess of Wales in 1985. Nothing of the sort has happened, but a major gaffe might have changed the tone of the afternoon. All the news reports I watched tonight were very positive about the Prince and the Duchess, which was really good to see.

By the way, I loved the speech given by Mr Wong after receiving the Diamond Jubilee Plate from the Prince of Wales. It sounded like a dodgy google translation from English to Chinese and back to English. By the time he finished listing all the official guests by their full styles and titles, and admirably tackled some difficult names for a speaker of Cantonese (Cornwall, Chernov and Baillieu), all he had time for was a hearty thank you. He also looked very dapper in his top hat!
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