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Old 03-14-2014, 08:25 AM
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Summary based on a Q&A in Billed Bladet #11, 2014.

Where a Pia Frederiksen would like to know how far down the royal line royal immunity extends.

Jon Bloch Skipper replies that royal immunity encompass all in the line for the throne and their spouses by marriage as defined by the Law of Succession.

According to the Law of the King from 1665 and the Constitution, all these people are "royals" and they cannot be prosecuted, nor can they or rather nor are they obliged to give testimony at a court of law.
It is only the Monarch who can prosecute and sentence these people. The Monarch can however lift the immunity if need be.

- The Monach can also strip an individual of the royal status at any time, but the Monarch cannot elevate someone into royal status except by birth or marriage. You cannot be in the Line of Succesion unless you are also a decendant of Christian X and Queen Alexandrine.
The only one whose status QMII cannot change at a whim (in theory of course) is that of the Crown Prince. Frederik's status as heir is protected by the Law of Succession.
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Old 03-19-2014, 10:59 AM
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Bibliotekar med stærke kommunikative evner til Kongehuset | Hartmanns

The court is looking for a librarian to be in charge of QMII's private library and keep the employees supplied with the relevant books and material.
You will be in contact with the DRF.
So if this is something, you might give it a go. - You will be checked by PET.
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Old 03-27-2014, 03:36 PM
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For the moderators:

I think this belongs in the news-links thread: tvsyd.dk - TV SYD+ - Serier - Det Royale Syd- og Sønderjylland

It's a compilation of news vids about the DRF from TV2 Syd.

As TV2 SYD is located in Southern Jutland it's hardly surprising that their local royals, i.e. Joachim and our Marie, are well featured.
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Old 04-26-2014, 08:17 AM
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Summary of a Q&A in Billed Bladet #17, 2014.

Where a Astrid Bruun would like to know in what order the members of the DRF will be rescued in case of an emergency.

Jon Bloch Skipper responds that there detailed plans for that eventuality. In case of war, distaster, terrorism and so on, a number of key figures will be evacuated. The exact details is of course a secret.
However, Jon Bloch Skipper believe that the DRF on top the list are QMII, Frederik and Christian. - Followed by the other members who are in the Line of Succession.

- As mentioned in a previous post somewhere, this is where the adjutants come in, if something should happen while the royals are on the job outside the residences.
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If a Danish princess married an ordinary man…

If, for instance, Princess Athena of Denmark grew up and married a commoner, would he get any title from his marriage to her?

I'd be very grateful for anyone who would be kind enough to help me! And I hope this is the appropriate place for this thread...

Thank you very much.
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Old 05-17-2014, 06:52 PM
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If, for instance, Princess Athena of Denmark grew up and married a commoner, would he get any title from his marriage to her?

I'd be very grateful for anyone who would be kind enough to help me! And I hope this is the appropriate place for this thread...

Thank you very much.
That is entirely up to the Monarch.
Only the wife/husband of the Crown Prince/ss is practically guaranteed to become a prince/princess because the CP can't be stripped of his/her title.

There are as far as I know no specific rules for the rest.
However, if I were to speculate it would be realistic to think that Athena would be stripped of her royal title and simply be Countess de Montpezat.
In contrast a husband to Josephine or Isabella has a considerable bigger chance of being made a prince. Simply because they are children of the CP couple.
It very much depends on where they settle down, how active they are within the DRF, will they get an apanage and so on.
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Old 05-17-2014, 07:26 PM
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That is entirely up to the Monarch.
Only the wife/husband of the Crown Prince/ss is practically guaranteed to become a prince/princess because the CP can't be stripped of his/her title.

There are as far as I know no specific rules for the rest.
However, if I were to speculate it would be realistic to think that Athena would be stripped of her royal title and simply be Countess de Montpezat.
In contrast a husband to Josephine or Isabella has a considerable bigger chance of being made a prince. Simply because they are children of the CP couple.
It very much depends on where they settle down, how active they are within the DRF, will they get an apanage and so on.
Why would Princess Athena be stripped of her title? I can understand her husband not getting a tintle, but why would she lose hers?
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Old 05-17-2014, 11:53 PM
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If, for instance, Princess Athena of Denmark grew up and married a commoner, would he get any title from his marriage to her?

I'd be very grateful for anyone who would be kind enough to help me! And I hope this is the appropriate place for this thread...

Thank you very much.

Princess Dagmar (1890-1961), daughter of King Frederik VIII married the untitled nobleman Jørgen Castenskjold in 1922 without him or any of their descendants receiving any titles and without her being stripped of her royal title (atleast as far is I can tell).
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Old 05-18-2014, 12:22 AM
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If, for instance, Princess Athena of Denmark grew up and married a commoner, would he get any title from his marriage to her?

I'd be very grateful for anyone who would be kind enough to help me! And I hope this is the appropriate place for this thread...

Thank you very much.
It's not exactly the same situation, but Princess Benedikte of Denmark married a man who, although a prince in his own right, did not take the "Prince of Denmark" title. Their daughter is married to a commoner, and their child does not hold a title.

It would be my guess that Princess Athena would keep her title, but her husband would not gain a title and their children would be commoners. The Danish Royal Family seems to like keeping the royal family fairly small (now, it is the children and grandchildren of the monarch, her two sisters, and a cousin), so I don't imagine that they would want to continue and continue adding members with little chance of inheriting the throne.
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Old 05-18-2014, 04:34 AM
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Why would Princess Athena be stripped of her title? I can understand her husband not getting a tintle, but why would she lose hers?
Acdc1 nailed it.

To keep the number of core DRF members low.

Right now there are seven adults and eight children for a total of thirteen members.
Say none were stripped of titles, or at the very least spouses and children were not given titles. That means that we in say 25 years from now, presuming Benedikte and the Regent Couple are dead, will have M&F, J&M, eight children with spouses, for a total of now twenty prince/ss! - Not counting their children.
That's way too many, not least in the eyes of the public.

But let's play with the idea.
Christian's life is fixed. - So seven to go.

Two will marry and settle or spend the majority of their lives abroad and not be a part of the daily DRF business. - Really not much need for them, let alone their spouses, to have a royal title.
One will marry but will opt to remain out of the limelight, do an Elisabeth, so to speak. Perhaps join the miitary and have a career that does not conflict with the DRF's political neutrality. Not having a royal title can even be an advantage.
Two will marry and take an active part in the DRF business in whatever way. I.e. do a Joachim.
One will for whatever reason not marry.
The last one will be the joker. Anything can happen, including death.

With a divorce rate of some 40% we must expect at least one of the children to divorce, that's also an incentive to be sparingly with titles.
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Extremely informative, everyone. Thank you so much.
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Old 05-23-2014, 03:16 PM
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It's entirely possible that a "pruning" will take place. You see it beginning already with Joachim's children not being "royal highness", but only "highness".

It's possible that the titles will prune as well, to lower degrees of nobility - such as counts, then barons then nothing.
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Old 05-25-2014, 05:25 AM
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Today here in DK there is a general election for the European Parliament as well as a referendum for or against the European Court of Patents.

Having just returned from the polling station I thought I would dispell a common myth.

All Danish citizens of legal age have the right to vote. (*) That includes the DRF. They just don't excersize that right.

What happens is that all citizens who have an official registered address get the in this case two personal voting cards send by mail a couple of weeks before the election.
Some opt to vote by mail beforehand but most don't. On the cards are instructions about where to vote and who to get your ballots from at the voting station.
Then it's just behind a curtain to put your X. It's the KISS principle - Keep It Simple Stupid, so we use a pencil here in DK.

The DRF members will have got such voting cards by mail as well, but they are probably shredded.

Today is also a flagday.

(*) I'm not 100 % sure if that also applies to those very few who are so poor off mentally that they are completely unable to comprehend what an election is about. ADDED: I checked, those who have a legal guardian appointed and who have been stripped of their legal rights do not have the right to vote.
People under all other forms of guardianships have the right to vote.
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:28 AM
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AFAIK Muhler, the DRF doesn't get a voting card in the mail.
They can legally vote but they do not get a card.
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AFAIK Muhler, the DRF doesn't get a voting card in the mail.
They can legally vote but they do not get a card.
They don't?

I thought it was automatic. I.e. per computer depending on where you live and then out by mail.
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This may not be the proper thread to post this, but I have a question: with the news today of Juan Carlos' pending abdication, do any of you think there will be more among the 'older' generation of royals? Personally, I'm not too sure. I think if QEII were going to abdicate, she would have done it by now. Harald in Norway has had some health problems, and the Japanese emperor is getting on in years. Both of their heirs seem to be well prepared. I can't see Margarethe stepping down at all! But if she did, I think Frederik would do a fine job.

Just some ramblings from an American, who is seriously thinking of getting a bumper sticker that says '' Bring Back the Monarchy'' !
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:05 AM
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To QMII, the role as a monarch is a role for life, she has ensured that in several interviews. She'll stay on the throne till she falls off – those are her own words. I'm beginning to doubt that abdication is even a word in her dictionary and I'm glad it isn't. There is no point in QMII abdicating. She's doing a tremendous job as it is.

Besides, we have no tradition whatsoever in Denmark for abdication. I think the last Danish monarch to abdicate was Erik VII (Erik af Pommern) in 1439.
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What do the Danish citizens think of the Crown Prince and Princess? Purely by accident I stumbled on an obscure Danish blog that was quite critical of them, their spending etc. Not critical of the Queen and even Joachim didn't fare too badly. Alexandra seemingly well thought of and not much mention of Marie. CP Mary especially took the brunt of the criticism but Fredrik received a lot as well. Comments posted on the blog all seemed to agree. Just wondering how people feel about them. I suppose there are those in every country with a monarchy that are "down" on the royals no matter how well they behave.
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Thelast survey shows that in popularity mary is in the lead.
So mary first then frederik, margrethe,
Prince henrik, marie and Joachim share the last seats.
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Old 07-14-2014, 02:54 PM
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What do the Danish citizens think of the Crown Prince and Princess? Purely by accident I stumbled on an obscure Danish blog that was quite critical of them, their spending etc. Not critical of the Queen and even Joachim didn't fare too badly. Alexandra seemingly well thought of and not much mention of Marie. CP Mary especially took the brunt of the criticism but Fredrik received a lot as well. Comments posted on the blog all seemed to agree. Just wondering how people feel about them. I suppose there are those in every country with a monarchy that are "down" on the royals no matter how well they behave.
There are blogs out there that are extremely critical of especially Mary and everything associated with Mary, or anything that is associated with all the things associated with Mary (a strange form of original sin, I suppose).
Especially Royal Dish is waving it's hands.

The Crown Prince is adored by most people, although people recognize his faliure to perform "live" - i.e. giving speeches etc.
Mary is absolutely loved by almost every person in the realm and she's seen as someone who's very compatible with Frederik.
Most republicans (and they are scarce) seldom, if ever, lash out at the person Frederik or Mary, but at monarchism as a form of government. While some people might dislike monarchy, it's a loosing battle in Denmark to begin to critizise the queen for being in the position she is in.

Re. the critical blogs, while despising especially Mary, they ironically spend seemingly all their spare time reading and writing about her, scouring the interweb for images of her, actually spending most of their time on a person they claim to hate (I suspect they secretly love her, but won't admit it - by ragging on her, they are excused, so to speak).
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