Orders & Sashes


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Mapple said:
Firstly, why King Olav V of Norway was made a Knight of the Thistle in 1962? It is a ‘unique’ in history of the Order—as far as I know, no other foreign monarch has received the second-highest British order of chivalry. Did the late King of Norway have some special connection with Scotland?
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King Olav was the son of Prince Carl of Denmark and Princess Maud of the United Kingdom (granddaughter of Queen Victoria). So King Edward VII was the maternal grandfather of King Olav, and I suppose it's the family connection that resultet in him being made a Knight of the Thistle.
 
Norway and Scotland had strong ties several hundred years ago. King Eric of Norway married the sister of Robert the Bruce. In fact in the Middle Ages, Scotland seemed to have closer relations to the Scandinavian countries than did England. A few Danish princesses married Kings of Scotland and one of them brought with her in her dowry the Shetland Islands which had previously belonged to Denmark.
 
Yes, the ties between Norway and Scotland are strong... I've remembered that Norway was the third member of the Auld Alliance. If King Henri VII were on the throne of France, he would also be a Knight of the Thistle, I guess. :)

And can a non-Christian monarch be honoured with the green ribbon of the Order of the Thistle? What do you think?
 
ysbel said:
A few Danish princesses married Kings of Scotland and one of them brought with her in her dowry the Shetland Islands which had previously belonged to Denmark.
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That is partly true! In the beginning the Shetland Islands, Orkneys and some other islands in Scotland belonged to Norway. These islands became a part of Denmark through the Kalmar union (a union between Denmark, Sweden and Norway in the 1350, brought together by Queen Margrete I, but Sweden left after a while), and thus a part of the double monarchy of Denmark-Norway that lasted from about 1350 to 1814. But it is true that the islands were a part of the dowry of Margrete, daughter of Christian I, who married James III of Scotland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_I_of_Denmark
 
Sashes of Princess Anne,i think they have not been posted:
 

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Another of Princess Anne, August 28, 1993, Norway: (Corbis)
 

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Crown Prince Phillippe and Crown Princess Mathilde of Belgium
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=199&c=3

Princess Claire of Belgium (I'm almost positive that's a sash and not her dress)
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=36&c=3

Princess Astrid of Belgium
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=179&c=3

Crown Pincess Victoria, Prince Carl-Philip, and Princess Madeleine
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=243&catid=member&imageuser=4032

Queen Silvia
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=40&catid=member&imageuser=1137

King Constantine and Queen Anne Marie
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=35&catid=member&imageuser=1137

Crown Prince Haakon and Crown Princess Mette-Marit
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=220&catid=member&imageuser=4032

Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess Mary with their royal guests
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=176&catid=member&imageuser=4032
 
Just one other question... why are some of the sashes worn from left shoulder to right hip or Right shoulder to left hip. Is there a reason for this? I noticed that CP Victoria has her sash Left Shoulder to Right hip and her sister and brother have their sashes worn the reverse. What determines this?
 
Lisele said:
Just one other question... why are some of the sashes worn from left shoulder to right hip or Right shoulder to left hip. Is there a reason for this? I noticed that CP Victoria has her sash Left Shoulder to Right hip and her sister and brother have their sashes worn the reverse. What determines this?
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I just read something about that! It depends on the order you recieve. It says quite clearly in its statutes how (and I suppose when) you wear the specific order. I also think that the degree of the order also determines the way you wear the order (as with the Bernadotte "kids"), as the heir to the throne have a higher degree than his/her siblings. That's why some orders sashes are worn from left shoulder to the right hip and visa verca. Who have come up with these statutes I guess is a different matter :)
 
BeccaLynn07 said:
Crown Prince Phillippe and Crown Princess Mathilde of Belgium
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=199&c=3

Princess Claire of Belgium (I'm almost positive that's a sash and not her dress)
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=36&c=3

Princess Astrid of Belgium
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=179&c=3

Crown Pincess Victoria, Prince Carl-Philip, and Princess Madeleine
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=243&catid=member&imageuser=4032

Queen Silvia
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=40&catid=member&imageuser=1137

King Constantine and Queen Anne Marie
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=35&catid=member&imageuser=1137

Crown Prince Haakon and Crown Princess Mette-Marit
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=220&catid=member&imageuser=4032

Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess Mary with their royal guests
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=176&catid=member&imageuser=4032
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Thanks lots Becca.They are great.
 
yes thanks, they are good pics. IN the last pic of Mary and Frederik's wedding, Sophie Wessex isnt there, and Caroline of Monaco, why is this? or are they there but maybe i cant find them.

Sorry, i know this is a bit off topic.
 
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KikkiB said:
I just read something about that! It depends on the order you recieve. It says quite clearly in its statutes how (and I suppose when) you wear the specific order. I also think that the degree of the order also determines the way you wear the order (as with the Bernadotte "kids"), as the heir to the throne have a higher degree than his/her siblings. ...
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The second is not the case, I think--ribbons (the ones that go across the shoulder, I mean, not the small ones on the chest) go with the highest degree only.
 
BeccaLynn07 said:
You welcome...sorry I didn't realize that Sean.~ had already answered that...:eek: :) :eek:
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That's alright. You and Sean are wonderful! And you know, two heads are better than one!
 
Australian said:
yes thanks, they are good pics. IN the last pic of Mary and Frederik's wedding, Sophie Wessex isnt there, and Caroline of Monaco, why is this? or are they there but maybe i cant find them.

Sorry, i know this is a bit off topic.
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Sophie is on the offical picture
 
Mapple said:
The second is not the case, I think--ribbons (the ones that go across the shoulder, I mean, not the small ones on the chest) go with the highest degree only.
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That might be, but I also guess that it depends on the order and its statutes. The St. Olav order in Norway have a sash, a star and a necklace as it's highest degree. But then again, this is not my area of expertise :)

http://www.kongehuset.no/default.asp?lang=eng
 
KikkiB said:
That might be, but I also guess that it depends on the order and its statutes. The St. Olav order in Norway have a sash, a star and a necklace as it's highest degree. But then again, this is not my area of expertise :)
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The highest degree of the Order of St Olav, the Grand Cross, has the star and the ribbon. The Collar is a special distinction.
 
michelleq said:
That's alright. You and Sean are wonderful! And you know, two heads are better than one!
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HMQueenElizabethII said:
Thanks lots Becca.They are great.
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hehe, thanks. :eek:


Would Victoria be wearing that sash the other way because she's crown princess and will someday rule, while her brother and sister won't? (presuming she doesn't abdicate of course.)I believe her mother wears it the same way...
 
I found some more...various royals. (mostly British, and Belgian)

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=182906

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=153289

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=182922

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=182831

http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2829&c=2

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=182868

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=170154


I don't know if you want to count the Order of the Garter robes as part of the sash, but it looks like there is one...(please, correct me if I'm wrong..)

http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2646&c=2

http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2647&c=2

http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2644&c=2

Enjoy!
 
Danish Royals

Princess Benedikte of Denmark
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2875&c=4

Queen Margrethe and Prince Henrik
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2545&c=4

King Frederik IX of Denmark and family
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2536&c=4

Queen Ingrid of Denmark and her daughters
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2535&c=4

Princess Alexandra of Denmark
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2415&c=4

Queen Margrethe of Denmark
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2534&c=4

Princess Alexandra
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2407&c=4

Prince Frederik and Princess Mary
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2397&c=4

Crown Princess Mary
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2311&c=4

Princess Alexandra, May 2004
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2174&c=4

Crown Princess Mary
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2312&c=4

Crown Princess Mary and Crown Prince Frederik with their parents
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=535&c=4
 
 
Thank you again for the information :) Learned something new today :)

~Lis~
 
Various Royals

Queen Sirikit of Thailand
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2887&c=11

His Majesty the King Of Thailand
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2628&c=11

Lalla Salma
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2439&c=11

Thai royalty members
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1881&c=11

Empress Soraya of Iran
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1725&c=11

Shah Mohamed Reza Pahlavi's Coronation
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1727&c=11

Shah Mohamed Reza Pahlavi
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1717&c=11

Emperor Hirohito and Empress Nagako of Japan
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1294&c=11

Queen and Sultan of Brunei
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1067&c=11

Queen and Sultan of Brunei
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1066&c=11

Emperor and Empress of Japan
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=539&c=11

Crown Prince of Brunei wedding banquet
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=353&c=11

http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=350&c=11

Sultan & Queen of Brunei
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=349&c=11
 
 
Swedish Royals

Crown Princess Victoria
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2588&c=10

King Carl XVI Gustaf
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1843&c=10

Queen Silvia
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1841&c=10

Queen Silvia
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1840&c=10

Princess Lilian
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1372&c=10

Princess Lilian
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1370&c=10

Prince Carl Philip
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1360&c=10

King Carl XVI Gustaf & Queen Silvia
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1358&c=10

CP Prince of Sweden and Princess Margaret of Connaught Family
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1257&c=10

Swedish Royal Family in 1907
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1255&c=10

Crown Princess Victoria
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=968&c=10

Swedish Royal Wedding
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=544&c=10

Princess Madeleine
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=134&c=10
http://www.theroyalforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=133&c=10
 
 
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