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Old 08-13-2006, 04:45 PM
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I wonder - would Pavlos marry MC (if he would know her) if his father still would be the reigning monarch? Would Constantine ever give him his consent to this marriage?
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Old 08-13-2006, 09:32 PM
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I like Mrs. Miller's suit.MC does look very tanned.Thanks for posting the pictures!
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Old 08-14-2006, 09:44 AM
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I wonder - would Pavlos marry MC (if he would know her) if his father still would be the reigning monarch? Would Constantine ever give him his consent to this marriage?
Interesting question. Who's to really know? Ever since MC and Pavlos announced their engagement there have been whispers that it was an "arranged" marriage: the social-climbing Millers were looking to marry off their daughters to high-profile, preferably royal/aristocratic, men. The rather impoverished (by royal standards) Greek RF was looking for money. If this is true, then both families got their wish. MC & Pavlos say they married for love and it was "love at first sight". I find that sorta hard to believe. Esp. knowing of the Millers determination to marry into "exceptional" families. And I'm sure the idea of marrying a Prince and becoming a Royal Highness (whether credible or not) was very much appealing to MC. But you never know. Constantine has often remarked on the "legacies" of the European royal families and how important familial ties are. I tend to think that if he still reigned, and if Pavlos and Pavlos' son/grandson would one day reign as well, Constantine would have preferred a blue-blooded wife for his heir. If he were still King, he's have more wealth and, hence, wouldn't need for his son to marry an heiress. But this is just my opinion.
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If Constantine had been reigning, Pavlos wouldn't have been in New Orleans on the night they met -- he would have been in Athens carrying out royal engagements. So it makes perfect sense to me to state that they married because the Greeks aren't reigning -- they wouldn't have met otherwise. MC definitely was not in royal circles before her marriage, she didn't even hang out with deposed royals, so she certainly wouldn't have come in contact with a reigning royal.
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:42 PM
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You are rigth.

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I assume you are talking about Princess Märtha Louise of Norway, since she is the sister-in-law of Crown Princess Mette-Marit.
Yes that's Her name, Martha Louise of Norway is very pretty and She's not shy to were anything She want's in Her face or body, I admire Her for been so original. thanks very much. miaamor
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Old 08-17-2006, 06:30 AM
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Does anyone know if MC and Pavlos' friendship with the crown prince couple of Norway is still going strong....
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Old 08-19-2006, 05:11 PM
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If Constantine had been reigning, Pavlos wouldn't have been in New Orleans on the night they met -- he would have been in Athens carrying out royal engagements. So it makes perfect sense to me to state that they married because the Greeks aren't reigning -- they wouldn't have met otherwise. MC definitely was not in royal circles before her marriage, she didn't even hang out with deposed royals, so she certainly wouldn't have come in contact with a reigning royal.
Interesting theory, except that the party they met at was of a mutual aquintance of both MC and Pavlos, and happened to be one of Greece's wealthiest shipping magnates, a friend of the Miller's as well as a supporter of the GRF. So they might have met anyways.
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Old 08-20-2006, 11:33 AM
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Does anyone know if MC and Pavlos' friendship with the crown prince couple of Norway is still going strong....
Shortly before MC had her last child there was a photo shoot of her family (along w her niece, Talita) at a villa in Greece. The Norweigen crown prince and princess (with their children) were there as well. Other than that, I haven't heard or seen anything about these two families socializing outside of large royal events.
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Old 08-20-2006, 12:35 PM
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Does anyone know if MC and Pavlos' friendship with the crown prince couple of Norway is still going strong....
The norwegian CP couple visit Paul and Marie-Chantal in London on a pretty regular basis (most of the time in autumn).
After that holiday vacation in Greece two years ago, CP Mette-Marit became one of Prince Odysseus´godmothers in June ´05 and Paul in turn became godfather of Sverre Magnus. So you can be pretty sure, that they keep contact even if the public won´t know about it
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Old 08-20-2006, 12:48 PM
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If Constantine had been reigning, Pavlos wouldn't have been in New Orleans on the night they met -- he would have been in Athens carrying out royal engagements. So it makes perfect sense to me to state that they married because the Greeks aren't reigning -- they wouldn't have met otherwise. MC definitely was not in royal circles before her marriage, she didn't even hang out with deposed royals, so she certainly wouldn't have come in contact with a reigning royal.
Paul/ Pavlos was studying together with his Cousin Felipe of Spain in the US,
who, as a son of a reigning monarch, didn´t study in his homeland as well.
Most of the european Crown Princes, if not all of them, studied abroad,
so it is more than likely that the greek Crownprince would have done so with his father being in office as well.
It´s at least possible that he and Marie-Chantal would have met in that case, as CP Felipe was also one of the set who joined that New-Orleans-party whetre the two met (one of her sisters socialized with Royals as well; she later married Prince Alexander of Fürstenberg).
It´s not unusual at all for girls from the "society" to be in contact with Royalty. William and Harry for instance have almost only contact with those kind of young people...
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Old 08-20-2006, 02:16 PM
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(one of her sisters socialized with Royals as well; she later married Prince Alexander of Fürstenberg).
Alex VF isn't considered "royal" in terms of Prince Felipe of Spain or even Pavlos. The Von Furstenburgs are more aristocrats than royals. And Alex was raised primarily in NYC by his mother. His associations were more American heiresses and movie stars than actual royalty. Alexandra Miller did not travel in the circles of European royals. Rubbing elbows with titled people at a swank party - whether it be NYC, London, Paris, etc. - does not constitute traveling in royal circles. Even MC wasn't part of the royal crowd until she married Pavlos. Princes Wm & Harry mingling with wealthy English heiresses is a bit different as most of the British wealthy are somehow connected to royalty by blood. The world of Britain's wealthy/aristocratic/royal is quite incestuous.
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I doubt it was an arranged marriage, but certainly Robert Miller was very ambitious for his daughters to marry well. Constantine was lukewarm on Marie-Chantal marrying Pavlos and they are said to have a very cool relationship.
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Let's remember this thread is for news and current events- time to move things back on topic!

There are a number of other threads for conversation and ideas- feel free to share your thoughts and opinions in those threads.

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Old 08-21-2006, 05:35 AM
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I think they're a very handsome couple very much in love and devoted with each other and clearly adoring their growing family.

I love to see pictures of them altogether.
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Old 08-21-2006, 09:32 AM
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Are there any recent photos of the family? Other than Euro Disney, were there any other family vacations taken over the summer? Maybe with the the in-laws (Millers as well as Greek royals).
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Old 08-21-2006, 01:54 PM
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[quote=Bella]Alex VF isn't considered "royal" in terms of Prince Felipe of Spain or even Pavlos. The Von Furstenburgs are more aristocrats than royals.

I don´t really see what you´re trying to say. Of course I´m aware of the difference between Royalty and Aristocracy, but AvF is a member of a so called "noble" family, socialising with Royals as well, indeed!
It´s a fact that MC met Pavlos and Felipe back in the 90s when they studied in the US, isn´t it? Otherwise she hardly wouldn´t have been able to marry the greek CP...
Concerning the british Princes: Don´t you think that W. and Harry, if they were ever planning to study in the US, would only meet royal girls (they ´d remain pretty lonesome...)?
They´d learn to know a lot of girls with the exact background MC had:
Daughters from rich tycoons, mingling in "high society" and with the best of contacts.
But, yes, you´re right, MC had no royal contacts "by nature" before her engagement. It was a mere coincidence(if you believe in coincidents) to
meet Pavlos, but in the same way W.and Hs girlfriends met them, because
not everybody in british society is connected to Royalty or aristocratic families urgently...
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Old 08-21-2006, 02:01 PM
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I doubt it was an arranged marriage, but certainly Robert Miller was very ambitious for his daughters to marry well. Constantine was lukewarm on Marie-Chantal marrying Pavlos and they are said to have a very cool relationship.
Who/ What´s the source of this statement ("cool relationship")?
I mean, there are a lot of things "being said" who are simply pure fictional.
I often wonder, where some people get their informations from (often
only from the tabloids...)! I guess neither King Constantine nor his daughter-in-law ever confessed publicly to have a "cool relatinship", did they?
Or was a reporter hiding at their homes under the sofa...?
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I don´t really see what you´re trying to say. Of course I´m aware of the difference between Royalty and Aristocracy, but AvF is a member of a so called "noble" family, socialising with Royals as well, indeed!
It´s a fact that MC met Pavlos and Felipe back in the 90s when they studied in the US, isn´t it? Otherwise she hardly wouldn´t have been able to marry the greek CP...
Concerning the british Princes: Don´t you think that W. and Harry, if they were ever planning to study in the US, would only meet royal girls (they ´d remain pretty lonesome...)?
They´d learn to know a lot of girls with the exact background MC had:
Daughters from rich tycoons, mingling in "high society" and with the best of contacts.
But, yes, you´re right, MC had no royal contacts "by nature" before her engagement. It was a mere coincidence(if you believe in coincidents) to
meet Pavlos, but in the same way W.and Hs girlfriends met them, because
not everybody in british society is connected to Royalty or aristocratic families urgently...
I'm trying to say that there are social differences between the aristocracy and royalty and that just because Alex VF is of a "noble" family doesn't mean he associates with "royalty." MC DID NOT meet Pavlos or Felipe in the 90s! She first met Pavlos as a party in New Orleans. Both she and Pavlos have spoken publically of this numerous times. And ONCE AGAIN, it doesn't matter if you're rich, famous, whatever, mingling at a party and traveling in the very tight social circles of royals is NOT THE SAME THING. I'm not saying the Princes and royals don't meet and befriend heiresses, I'm sure it happens. But we're discussing MC and her sisters and their royal connections and there were really no royal connections until MC married Pavlos.
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Please, let’s stop the off-topic discussions.

This is Pavlos and Marie-Chantal Current Events thread.
This is not a thread discussing differences between Royalty and Aristocracy. I suppose we all know or learnt the difference between them.

This is also not the right place to discuss whether Pavlos and Marie-Chantal would ever met/marry, if King Constantine was still a reigning Monarch.
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That is sad that Chantel-Marie would not be officially recongize as Queen Of Greece she is a good dresser too.
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