The Royal Forums Coat of Arms

Go Back   The Royal Forums > Reigning Houses > Royal House of Sweden > Crown Princess Victoria, Prince Daniel and Family

Join The Royal Forums Today
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #881  
Old 02-25-2012, 05:48 PM
Esmerelda's Avatar
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 1,215
__________________

  #882  
Old 02-25-2012, 05:55 PM
ashelen's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: la, United States
Posts: 2,677
Congratulations to Victori and Daniel and the hole family as well as all the sewedish people for the new princess, what a marvellous news!
just i was expecting her to leave the hospital like the danish do, with the baby in her arms and all the rest of the press!
__________________

__________________
Ashelen
  #883  
Old 02-25-2012, 06:09 PM
Gentry
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Virginia Beach, United States
Posts: 57
ruthieviews

During CP Victoria and Daniel Westling's long, long courtship, sniping and mean comments arrived almost daily to discount Daniel as an uneducated commoner not worthy of a royal princess. I responded that he was a loyal and steadfast suitor and a prince underneath. He stood by his princess through it all and has become an excellent prince and represents Sweden in the very best way.

Now we are hearing the same type of comments about the new baby's name. They researched the royal ancestors to find a name worthy of Sweden's next queen or king. I believe they selected Folke Bernadotte, Count of Wisborg, and his wife, Countess Estelle (Manville). He helped rescue 31,000 prisoneers from German Concentration Camps. As the UN Mediator in the Arab-Israeli conflict of 1947-48, he argued for Arab rights to return, angering Jewish Militants (Lehi) who assassinated him in 1948.

CP Victoria and Prince Daniel could not have selected more worthy ancestors to bless their new baby. A girl was born and was named for Countess Estelle of Wisborg, Folke Bernadotte's wife. This beautiful name will remind them of the courage and humanity of their ancestors. I hope Princess Estelle wears the name proudly and well.
  #884  
Old 02-25-2012, 06:34 PM
Molly2101's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: England, United Kingdom
Posts: 3,209
The images of the family with the government types are lovely, Prince Daniel is so happy and chuffed. I also like the idea that he cut the umbilical cord, what an amazing thing to do. I am a midwife and always feel the men feel they haven't got a place in childbirth, so it is always lovely to offer that to them. Daniel looks over the moon. As Prince Edward said when his daughter was born, his life is now run by not one, but two women. Men must deep down secretly love having a daughter.

I cannot wait to see the little Princess. :)
__________________
"I am yours, you are mine, of that be sure. You are locked in my heart, the little key is lost and now you must stay there forever."
Written by Princess Alix of Hesse and by Rhine in the diary of her fiance, Tsarevich Nicholas.
  #885  
Old 02-25-2012, 06:37 PM
Countessmeout's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: alberta, Canada
Posts: 3,473
Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyFinn View Post
Daniel´s mother is called Ewa Westling.

Photos from the cabinet meeting and Te Deum
PurePeople Bébé de la princesse Victoria : la princesse Estelle révélée !
Anna Ewa (Eva) Kristina
  #886  
Old 02-25-2012, 06:39 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 1,010
According to Bertil Ternert they have already begun the planning for the christening of Princess Estelle. Can't ser why they would do that if they wait until june as Roger Lundgren predicted. He said to Expressen that Victoria and Madeleine speaks to each other daily and that Madeleine have seen a lot of private pictures of little Estelle and Madeleine will take part of the christening-planning when she is coming to Sweden to visit the "Haga family".
I just hope they release pictures of Estelle at their website and facebook-site in a few days.
  #887  
Old 02-25-2012, 06:51 PM
Natalia Elisabeth's Avatar
Commoner
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 11
I don't know if this has been posted yet, but this is a video that the Swedish court posted on facebook.

  #888  
Old 02-25-2012, 06:59 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,073
I think the christening will take place on her parent's second wedding anniversary in June! :)
  #889  
Old 02-25-2012, 06:59 PM
agami.pearl's Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: -, Poland
Posts: 1,801
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nordic View Post
How do you know she is much closer to MM?
Cause I've seen many photos of both and they seems to be in really good relationship, not only during official functions but also more private ones (as well photos and videos of Vicky and NRF children or Daniel and NRF). I haven't seen such a closeness between Victoria and Mary although she and Frederik are very close.
  #890  
Old 02-25-2012, 07:03 PM
Esmerelda's Avatar
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 1,215
Princess Estelle's nanny has apparently been hired.
http://translate.google.com/translat...xpressen.se%2F
  #891  
Old 02-25-2012, 07:23 PM
EIIR's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Somewhere, United Kingdom
Posts: 2,658
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyger View Post

Queen Elizabeth once referred to the Scandinavian and Continental monarchies as 'bicycle monarchies'. In the end, these monarchies have modernized more seamlessly it seems than the British one that is so tradition bound. They are more part of the real-world life. Princes marrying educated and career women are the norm. Princes - and Princesses - themselves, have significant jobs in the world - and as it turns out, are still able to show off with plenty of bling and majesty and pomp for the right occasions. They seem less prisoners of their royal roles. (I could be mistaken but when you hear about the whole Swedish family going food shopping together on Sunday afternoons - you know something is different).

Many pages back, some posters were commenting on what a 'common' name Estelle was and that the British monarchy would never stoop so low. Yet it might be a good thing for them to so do. What better way to 'modernize' the monarchy than to have a future King Trevor James?
There's so much wrong here it's difficult to know where to begin.

So, because some of us don't like the princess's name, that's an excuse to attack the British monarchy for being 'tradition bound', not part of real life and 'prisoners of royal life'?

If the 'best' way for the British monarchy to modernise (which I personally don't believe they need to do) is to call our future king Trevor, then I truly hope the British monarchy stays 'tradition bound' and less a part of 'real world life' for as long as possible.
  #892  
Old 02-25-2012, 07:25 PM
XeniaCasaraghi's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: 1729 Noneofyourbusiness Drive, United States
Posts: 2,702
I hope they only have one or two nannies: not 6 like those morons Jay-Z and Beyonce. That's just splurging money because you can.

According to some, the name Estelle is present in the family history so its not like they pulled it out of the air. The British monarchy could use some lessons in doing research into the past and looking for new traditional names rather than going for the obvious Elizabeth, Anne, Edward etc. I will never understand why people who defend traditional names assume that criticizing such names automatically means we want strange names like Apple, Blu Ivy, and now Trevor.
__________________
Princess Grace, April 19, 1956
Princess Margaret Rose, May 6, 1960
Crown Princess Mette-Marit, August 25, 2001
Jaqueline Bouvier Kennedy, September 12, 1953
Countess Stephanie of Belgium October 20, 2012
  #893  
Old 02-25-2012, 07:36 PM
Empress Merel's Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: -, Netherlands
Posts: 1,656
Really happy for Victoria and Daniel. Estelle is a lovely name. Has a nice ring to it aswell, Queen Estelle, Crown Princess Estelle. Fantastic choice.
  #894  
Old 02-25-2012, 07:43 PM
Molly2101's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: England, United Kingdom
Posts: 3,209
Quote:
Originally Posted by XeniaCasaraghi View Post
I hope they only have one or two nannies: not 6 like those morons Jay-Z and Beyonce. That's just splurging money because you can.

According to some, the name Estelle is present in the family history so its not like they pulled it out of the air. The British monarchy could use some lessons in doing research into the past and looking for new traditional names rather than going for the obvious Elizabeth, Anne, Edward etc. I will never understand why people who defend traditional names assume that criticizing such names automatically means we want strange names like Apple, Blu Ivy, and now Trevor.
I agree, I am sick of seeing Elizabeth shoved in all the British Royals. Princess Eugenie is the only one of the Queen's granddaughters to not have Elizabeth in their name. I have high hopes for William and Catherine that they'll bring back Charlotte and Alexander as Edward and Sophie, the most recent to have Royal children (aside from Peter Phillips) went with really boring and traditional names.

I like the sound of Estelle, it was really unexpected but if the name has a family history then I am glad they chose it and did not go with some more recent. Would have been nice to have a Princess Alice. Maybe the next one can be called Alice!

Someone a few posts earlier mentioned that Lady Helen Taylor (The Duke of Kent's daughter) has a daughter called Estelle - I think her name is Estella, which in a way is not as nice as Estelle. (To be fair, she was quite different in calling her sons Columbus and Cassius, but we also have a Xan in he British Royal Family so maybe we are "modernising"...)
__________________
"I am yours, you are mine, of that be sure. You are locked in my heart, the little key is lost and now you must stay there forever."
Written by Princess Alix of Hesse and by Rhine in the diary of her fiance, Tsarevich Nicholas.
  #895  
Old 02-25-2012, 07:45 PM
Calenei's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 212
So let me get this straight...

Quote:
Originally Posted by EIIR View Post
It's not so much that I wanted a 'traditional' name or an old fashioned name for Victoria's daughter. I just didn't think they'd use such a naff name for a future monarch.
... it appears that it is ok to insult The Swedish Royal Family, their Crown Princess and the people of Sweden because your not happy with the name but no one appears to be able to critisze the British Royal Family because they have more appropriate names???

If you look through history you will see new monarch names where added over time in The British Royal Family. They look traditional now but perhaps at the time they to where considered inappropriate or as you like to call it ... naff.
  #896  
Old 02-25-2012, 08:01 PM
EIIR's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Somewhere, United Kingdom
Posts: 2,658
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calenei View Post
So let me get this straight...



... it appears that it is ok to insult The Swedish Royal Family, their Crown Princess and the people of Sweden because your not happy with the name but no one appears to be able to critisze the British Royal Family because they have more appropriate names???

If you look through history you will see new monarch names where added over time in The British Royal Family. They look traditional now but perhaps at the time they to where considered inappropriate or as you like to call it ... naff.
Yes, that is my opinion of the name, which I believe is part of the purpose of this thread. I did not, however, attack the Swedish royal family in ANY WAY whatsoever. Unlike some, I did not feel it necessary to defend the name by attacking other royal families for being so 'tradition bound' as to just not understand these other super modern, 'with it' families.

I also never said the British Royal Family's names are more appropriate. I stated that the chances of them choosing to name a future monarch Estelle are slim to none (thank goodness) but I made no judgement on the names they actually use.

I fail to see why I'm attacked when other posters stated that they hoped for the princess's sake she would be good looking to make up for having a name like Estelle?!
  #897  
Old 02-25-2012, 08:08 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 1,010
Quote:
Originally Posted by suztav
I think the christening will take place on her parent's second wedding anniversary in June! :)
But 19:th june is a tuesday. Saturday and Sunday are the usual days for christenings in the swedish luteran church. I would be surprised if the waited 4 months with the christening.
  #898  
Old 02-25-2012, 08:12 PM
Jacknch's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Suffolk/Budapest, Hungary
Posts: 4,940
I had a neighbour called Stella once and Charles Dickens fans will recall Estella from Great Expectations. I've always liked the name - it's and old name yet quite modern for a royal name. So my hope for Alexandrine never happened, maybe for William and Catherine's daughter eh?!
I cannot wait to see Princess Estelle for the first time!!
__________________
JACK
  #899  
Old 02-25-2012, 08:32 PM
Calenei's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 212
I am all for everyone's opinion. I think other posters are trying to get across the point that although you and others feel like the name is inappropriate others do not.

Throught history royal families have added name with new lines and new monarchs. What appears traditonal today maybe perhaps wasn't in the past. So the name Estelle could very well in 200 years be considered a very regal, appropriate name for a Queen.

I am sure Crown Princess Victoria gave the name for her daughter and future queen serious thought.
  #900  
Old 02-25-2012, 08:38 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Los Angeles CA, United States
Posts: 1,082
Quote:
Originally Posted by EIIR View Post
I did not [...] attack the Swedish royal family in ANY WAY whatsoever. Unlike some, I did not feel it necessary to defend the name by attacking other royal families for being so 'tradition bound' as to just not understand these other super modern, 'with it' families.

[...]

I fail to see why I'm attacked when other posters stated that they hoped for the princess's sake she would be good looking to make up for having a name like Estelle?!
I did not 'attack' the British Royal Family. I am merely observing that being so tradition-bound makes prisoners of the people who have to live those lives - warps their choices. Its as much a slavery as any other overt kind. Its the one problem/concern I have concerning royalty. I am heartened that there are royals who have juggled the family business with a more modern approach - something I see the British Royals still struggling with.

I think you equate 'attack' with difference of opinion. I certainly never set out to 'attack' anyone.

I personally think a King Trevor-James would be very cool.

Actually, pronounced properly - meaning the enunciation of the 'st' - makes the name one of great distinction. Any name with a 'st' has that - and if you handle all the 'esses' in Princess Estelle, it has a pristine, snappy as well as elegant sound.

BTW what kind of name was Desiree ('Desired One') for a Queen, when it comes to that? But it was a Queen's name once - so it is now queenly. So the same for any other name. Its the person who makes the name not the name who makes the person.
__________________

Closed Thread


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Queen Silvia and the Silvia Home & Foundation ursulajohanna King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia 69 12-05-2016 11:45 AM
Princess Estelle, News and Pictures Part 1: April 2012 - June 2014 JessRulz Current Events Archive 683 06-02-2014 10:44 PM




Popular Tags
ascot 2016 best gown best gown september 2016 best hat best outfit camillas outfits catherine middleton style coup d'etat courtship crown prince haakon crown princess mary crown princess mary fashion crown princess mette-marit current events december 2015 duchess of cambridge dutch state visit e-mail fashion poll grand duke jean greece haldane kate middleton king abdullah ii king felipe king felipe vi king willem-alexander member introduction monarchy new zealand nobel gala norway november 2016 october 2016 opening of parliament picture of the week prince bernhard prince charles princess marie princess mary princess mary daytime fashion princess mary fashion princess mary hats princess victoria fashion queen letizia queen letizia casual outfits queen letizia daytime fashion queen letizia fashion queen letizia style queen mathilde queen mathildes outfits queen maxima queen maxima casual wear queen maxima daytime fashion queen maxima fashion queen maxima hats queen maxima style queen rania royal fashion september 2016 state visit state visit from mexico state visit to denmark succession sweden the duchess of cambridge the duchess of cambridge casual wear the duchess of cambridge daytime fashion the duchess of cambridge fashion the duchess of cambridge hats


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:52 PM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2016
Jelsoft Enterprises