Duke of Marmalade said:
Adelaide
"What is your opinion about F & L" is a very general question and people have very different motivations to give their opinions regarding the Princes of Asturias. Why should there be any restrictions as long as the basis of these opinions somehow touches one the many issues the Princes are involved in?
IMO given that F & L are the Spanish Crown Princes, the circumstances surrounding the Spanish monarchy have to be taken into consideration when judging them because those circumstances play a major part in their public appearances. Most of their actions are controlled by Zarzuela (= Head office of the Spanish Monarchy) - including Letizia’s much discussed "solo agenda" - so why not include this fact in the opinion that is given?
Comments on Felipe and Letizia in relation to their role in the Spanish Monarchy IMO do belong in this thread - and expressing criticism shouldn’t make someone a "detractor".
If Felipe & Letizia are only to be judged on what they do according to the website of the Royal House - and no one questions that they do a lot and work hard for Spain - this thread would sound like Wow they work so hard and they do so much, much more than other CPs and they are such a good team – thankfully the header of this thread allows a bigger picture to look at them.
I'm sorry but I think that you don't have understand my purposes and I know I'm guilty it's because sometimes my english is totally understanble - lack of practice.
That I want to say when you have to appreciate people is you have some and different levels to analyse who they are. First the appearence, then the behaviour, and if you want to give a relevant opinion to make your observation according an environment which determine who they are and for what they are. It's totally elementary. Far away of me the idea that we don't have to speak about the monarquia to settle up the portrait of the Princes of Asturias, it will be totally stupid of my part. Idem, it will totally irrelevant to avoid the "image du père" to try to find the "image du fils" . As you know in the life all is link. It's the reason why formated arguments are also whithout ANY interest to defend or to criticize.
All the arguments are good if they are based on sensible reflexions and not on the same enenuration of hacknayed cliché of " Royals" immature daddy's boy " sprawling/walling in the luxe, the privileges at the community national's expenses.
As you know if you are a british citizen, the english monarchy cost the equivalent of a litre of milk to the english people, the spanish monarchy cost less 22 centimes of €uro to the spanish people. What the trubble if some represents of the industrial world want to offer some somptous gift to the Kind to thank him for the dedication to their country. It's so little thing regarding the amount of the international and honest transactions made by the great firms and is so little thing regarding the way of life of the magnats of the industry. but it's not the problem. It's so little thing if the King is making to sale
The true problem, and in my opinion is the challenge give by the constitution and by the facts to a young men - Felipe - who is not, may be, the most clever person of his generation, but not the least- to overcome all the contradictions of his country and after the reign whithout any precedent of his father, to become a king in a country which don't seem to have accepted all its crisis of identity. In my opinion too, the first act which can give us a precise idea about him, is his wedding. To know how and by whom you have to surround you is the key of your succes.
It's for that I think that the question which make nervous a lot of participants of this thread: the own work of Letizia is not now very important because, she has yet work in the back office and in time more or less short, it will be obvious that the question will becoming totally obsolete : why do you want to put the cart before the horse?
I regret in this thread that quiet none of the " detractators"- generic word, not very appropriate as all generic word, but useful to avoid long sentence- of the Princely couple don't take the time to read the serious press, to take the informations at reliable sources and to have most part of the time preconceived ideas conveyed by the tabloids or all others pink press whithout to looking for understanding the structures and the components of the politic, economic, cultural and social life in Spain. The Spain is not only a country of Catels and others bull races!
To end, you are totally right, it's not good to lock a subject in a single way to thaught but with the condition that you don't stay with the same argument even is still irrelevant.
