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Old 08-19-2006, 05:04 PM
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I would tell you if I had the magazine but that was what I was trying to find, I just found the cover!
anyway if I found the article, I'll post it here

check this out:

http://www.jmnoticias.com/index.php?...fullnews&id=85

The title is: The sickly thinness of Letizia
What an interesting article! It just tells you how it is. It is not a surprise or a secret that it is not in the genes. It is more than that and this article clearly depicts what a lot of people have in their mind. Great!
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Old 08-19-2006, 05:25 PM
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I noticed something interesting in Lety's sunbathing picture http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...9&d=1106510656 ....Is it the Spanish flag picture on her left side wall (we can see just part of it) ? She must be very proud of her country then paint her national flag picture on her wall .
That's a brilliant comment! You should win the No-Prize Award for the Best Inspection in a Suspicious Photo category! Well, I'll give you flowers

I totally missed that wall and maybe a few of our fellow RFs did too. I find this detail intriguing because how many buildings do we know have the flag painted (complete with the coat of arms-I have a tiny version of the Coat of Arms in my avatar too) in their walls?!?! Maybe our experts in photoshop can take a closer inspection and check if that flag was over impossed behind Letizia...if that is really 100% Letizia. I say that because if the photo is a fake or altered then the lady in it could be someone else.
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Old 08-19-2006, 05:32 PM
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What an interesting article! It just tells you how it is. It is not a surprise or a secret that it is not in the genes. It is more than that and this article clearly depicts what a lot of people have in their mind. Great!
I hope that you could show your degree in medicine, to demonstrate that the thinness cannot be a genetic question.

I do not deal as the people one wants to believe what writes the yellow press ... and it looks for articles this how, written by anonymous someone, and stranger in a personal web page.
Please, if you try to demonstrate that you have reason, itlooks for a medical report, an official communique, a serious and credible journalist ... and do not go to an independent web where unknown someone speculate on gossips.


If you want, you can go to an Internet web, to write that Letizia is depressed, very sick and that is going to die .... assurance that a journalist of the yellow press will not have scruples in publishing it .... and this way you will demonstrate that you have reason.

Please, let´s be serious, to stop speculating on the health of other persons. It is sad to read some opinions in which some of they of them seem to wish that someone be ill.
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Old 08-19-2006, 05:40 PM
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What an interesting article! It just tells you how it is. It is not a surprise or a secret that it is not in the genes. It is more than that and this article clearly depicts what a lot of people have in their mind. Great!
I have to say I take issue with people using the word Great! in anything related to this discussion What presisly is great about it? If she has a problem is that great? If she does not, is it then great that the press specualtes about it and makes the preassure even bigger. It is one thing to report what the press writes because it is part of the royal news agenda and when all the papers write about it, it would be strange not to write about it in a royal news forum, but really, great?
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Old 08-19-2006, 08:58 PM
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I noticed something interesting in Lety's sunbathing picture http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...9&d=1106510656 ....Is it the Spanish flag picture on her left side wall (we can see just part of it) ? She must be very proud of her country then paint her national flag picture on her wall .
Either that or daydreaming.
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Old 08-19-2006, 10:39 PM
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That's a brilliant comment! You should win the No-Prize Award for the Best Inspection in a Suspicious Photo category! Well, I'll give you flowers

I totally missed that wall and maybe a few of our fellow RFs did too. I find this detail intriguing because how many buildings do we know have the flag painted (complete with the coat of arms-I have a tiny version of the Coat of Arms in my avatar too) in their walls?!?! Maybe our experts in photoshop can take a closer inspection and check if that flag was over impossed behind Letizia...if that is really 100% Letizia. I say that because if the photo is a fake or altered then the lady in it could be someone else.
yeah, it is too suspicious, I think it's Photoshop!
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Old 08-20-2006, 03:24 AM
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That's a brilliant comment! You should win the No-Prize Award for the Best Inspection in a Suspicious Photo category! Well, I'll give you flowers

I totally missed that wall and maybe a few of our fellow RFs did too. I find this detail intriguing because how many buildings do we know have the flag painted (complete with the coat of arms-I have a tiny version of the Coat of Arms in my avatar too) in their walls?!?! Maybe our experts in photoshop can take a closer inspection and check if that flag was over impossed behind Letizia...if that is really 100% Letizia. I say that because if the photo is a fake or altered then the lady in it could be someone else.
Thanks for the flowers. The place seems to be a private place and can not seen from public area. But, yes, some one an expert in photoshop should tell us what they can find about it .
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:21 AM
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We have a mystery to solve.. is she or isn't she?
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:49 AM
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The place seems to be a private place and can not seen from public area. But, yes, some one an expert in photoshop should tell us what they can find about it .
Well first time I saw the picture the flag wasn't there but a blue scenery, like a swimming pool... I think it was quite revealing about the place the photo was taken and they erased that part painting it with a picture of Spanish flag...

Creapy, hum?!?!?!


crisiñaki, thank you for sharing that great article (sorry, Larzen, couldn't help :mrgreen: myself) ...

Only Letizia didn't improve with the Princesses' Desease, but what can I say?? have always been like that; if a fat person loose 20 Kg everyone applaud and say you look good if your thin and loose 5 Kg you look sick and is starving... now, I wonder why they say that Mette-Marit suffered the same problem and appeared "con aspecto demacrado" I must have missed some pictures of her...

Also it is not nice to say her arms are thinner that Leonor's... and not true, poor sweetie !
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Old 08-20-2006, 10:59 AM
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Could someone enlighten me on why Princess Letizia is really thin? I mean has she always been like that? Sometimes I think she could gain some weight however it doesn't seem so.
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Old 08-20-2006, 12:20 PM
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Could someone enlighten me on why Princess Letizia is really thin? I mean has she always been like that? Sometimes I think she could gain some weight however it doesn't seem so.

Letizia was healthy when she was a teen,and thin later,but never was that skinny.

As for the reasons of Letizia's thineness,nobody could know them,as I nobody is Letizia's doctor,if it's a health problem which causes that,and nobody is in Letizia's mind,if that's caused by presure and stress.


I forgot to add,maybe Letizia likes to be that skinny,and she's dieting to be like that,but for me this doesn't make her beautiful.
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Old 08-20-2006, 12:32 PM
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Could someone enlighten me on why Princess Letizia is really thin? I mean has she always been like that? Sometimes I think she could gain some weight however it doesn't seem so.
Genetically, Letizia comes by at least some of her thinness naturally. Her mother and both of her sisters are also similarly thin, and Letizia has been similarly thin all her life.

Only on one previous incident, when the rumours of anorexia were great, the Spanish royal court officially denied that Letizia was anorexic. (A few weeks later the Spanish royal court also announced that she was pregnant with Leonor -- not sure how it was possible that the press was denouncing her as being thin to the point of being sick when she was in fact starting to gain weight with her pregnancy. )

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I forgot to add,maybe Letizia likes to be that skinny,and she's dieting to be like that,but for me this doesn't make her beautiful.
That has never been proven; it's hearsay to say that she likes to be that skinny or that she's dieting. Letizia herself stated clearly earlier this summer that she is that thin because it's genetics. Her own husband has been on the record as saying that Letizia has a very healthy appetite but is unable to put on the pounds as others might if eating what she does.
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Old 08-20-2006, 12:54 PM
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I've never seen or heard of an anorexic or a bulimic who would publicly admit to it. When it's done it's usually long after treatment in a gesture to help out others. When in the situation people usually DENY it. Therefore I would be particularly surprised if a royal house would come up and say «yeah our crown princess is actually anorexic». Years ago, the Swedish court carefully annnouced that Victoria had some eating problems and was gettting all the requested medical attention and all the love and support of her family. It was also easier to say that for them because Victoria was a teenager (by definition more vulnerable to that kind of disorder) than a mature well-stablished career wise 30+ woman.
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Old 08-20-2006, 01:09 PM
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Oh come on. is there any way to shut down this forum topic. Have you ever heard of a fast metabolism? I have, out of personal experience, and I can tell you it's quite anoying to have people think you're anorexic, or boulimic, when in fact you do eat. people who suffer from these diseases are usesually not happy about themselves or about their lives. Come on, really, Letizia is married to the cutest, sweatest men ever, a person that completely supports and loves her, like her in-laws do. And she has the cutest little daughter. Just quit these stupic rumours, she's not ill. Look at her sisters and mother, are they sick too?
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Old 08-20-2006, 01:22 PM
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I've never seen or heard of an anorexic or a bulimic who would publicly admit to it. When it's done it's usually long after treatment in a gesture to help out others. When in the situation people usually DENY it. Therefore I would be particularly surprised if a royal house would come up and say «yeah our crown princess is actually anorexic». Years ago, the Swedish court carefully annnouced that Victoria had some eating problems and was gettting all the requested medical attention and all the love and support of her family. It was also easier to say that for them because Victoria was a teenager (by definition more vulnerable to that kind of disorder) than a mature well-stablished career wise 30+ woman.
We are speaking neither of famous of Holywood nor of singers stars.

If it was true it would be stupid to deny it, because before or later they would have to confirm it since it happened in Sweden ... and then that would happen? If a person is sick, before or later, it is going to have to be absent of her work, and if you are a person who occupies a high position, before or later they would have to say it. If Letizia was sick there would come a moment in which she would not have forces to develop her activities.
From the birth of Leonor, the Princes have begun a very intense activity, up to the point of which the press was starting joking saying that they were everywhere.

The sick persons deny it to them themselves and to the persons who have around .... but the persons who have to the side are not silly you nor block up, and they know it perfectly. If Letizia had some problem, already the members of the House of the King would take charge removing her from the press and avoiding to speak about the topic.

How well has explained Alexandria, the first time that they began with these rumors, Letizia was even thinner that now, there was an oficial communique that was denying it and little later she remained a pregnant woman slightly impossible if she was suffering with any of the diseases that you mention.
I remember the fortune-tellers saying that how Letizia was so thin she might never have a baby... and there, there is Leonor, a very healthy, high well and rather fat girl, who with 9 months dresses babies' clothes of 18. Certainly, that Letizia nursed Leonor, and it does not seem that the girl this one precisely badly fed.

We are in summer, there are no topics to speak and this topic gives for many speculations. But up to the moment, Letizia only is very thin ... and she has not given samples ever of any other symptom that could indicate any disease. I am afraid, that once this will pass, when a time passes Letizia will remain again a pregnant woman, the voices will be kept silent, and 10 months later they will turn to say that she is sick.
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I've never seen or heard of an anorexic or a bulimic who would publicly admit to it.
While I agree that people who have eating disorders or problems of other sorts such as depression or other matters, would not be so forthcoming to admit it, just to add to what lula has said: I think it would be one thing if Letizia did not publicly declare "Yes I am anorexic" if she were, or for the royal house to say that she is not anorexic if she was and they wanted to let her deal with it privately, but the royal house would hardly let Letizia to continue to work as rigorously as she has been.

They would slowly (or completely) pull her back from her engagements and duties to get her the help she needs. They would hardly let her keep going at the rate she has been with several royal engagements a day and to be constantly carrying a growing baby as she has been all summer.

The one very shocking thing I learned from my friend who is anorexic is that all these years I thought she was wearing layers and layers of clothing (even in the dead of summer) to hide how very thin she was and because she was very cold even though everybody else around her was fine. I thought that the layers of t-shirts and sweaters was so that the rest of us couldn't see how bony she was, but in fact, it was because she was so grossed out by how fat she was. While symptoms vary from anorexic to anorexic, some notion of covering up one's body because one's cold or to hide how one looks is typical. This summer especially this has not been the case with Letizia. We have seen her in t-shirts and capris and skirts and dresses that show how slim she is. In comparison to my friend, this summer has been one of the hottest in Toronto's history, with temperatures that reached more than 40 degrees celcius with humidity. While everyone else was wearing shorts, skirts and tank tops, my friend who is anorexic wore long pants, runners with socks, a long-sleeved shirt, a sweater and then a jean jacket.

Unlike, for example, the Japanese royals whose IHA don't seem to care much for the feelings of their princesses, I think the Spanish King and Queen, Felipe and the princesses do care for each other, whatever the strained relations may be, real or speculative. I don't think any of them would let Letizia keep working so hard if she were sick.

Furthermore, because she works so much with Felipe, it would be very hard for her to cover up her lack of eating since she is always in his presence. My friend who is anorexic lives alone, and even when she had roommates at university, she became very adept at hiding her lack of eating. When in the presence of people she ate a bagel or dinner or something, but she never ate when she was alone or simply lied about it. If we had plans to go for dinner tonight, my friend would not eat anything all day but tell me that she had and then eat a normal meal when we went to dinner so that I would think she was eating regularly. Seeing as Letizia is with Felipe all day and when she comes home there is help puttering around and a young daughter to care for I don't know when Letizia would be able to lie about what she wasn't eating.
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I have a little question related to anorexia, that has been buging me for a while now, and since some of had had experience with this disease, i would really apreciate for you to answer it.


¿ Doesn't anorexic people have a very distorded image of their body and even they are very skinny they still think they are fat? ¿ wouldn't it be very hard for them to admit they are actually very skinny?

Thank you for your attention.
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¿ Doesn't anorexic people have a very distorded image of their body and even they are very skinny they still think they are fat? ¿ wouldn't it be very hard for them to admit they are actually very skinny?
I have not experienced anorexia myself, but I have a friend who has it and I have been attending a support group for families and friends with loved ones suffering anorexia.

Most anorexics do not recognize how thin they are. Psychologically, they will never be thin enough even if they are severely underweight.

My friend is 5'10" and at her lowest weighed less than 100 pounds. (As a contrast, I am less than a foot shorter than her and weighed about that much, which is about average.) Recently, through an out patient anorexic program she gained about three pounds. Those three pounds were not visible in the least to us, but in her mind it might as well have been 30 pounds that she gained. She felt very overweight and tried to kill herself as a result.
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I am not saying that you can be thin and healthy but being too thin can lead to a possible health scare.
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even they are very skinny they still think they are fat?
Im not quite sure, but i think that's bulimia.
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