SirGyamfi1
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Is the thread about relations between the U.S.A and the British monarchy or its interactions with monarchies in general?
Is the thread about relations between the U.S.A and the British monarchy or its interactions with monarchies in general?
I was being serious. Sure, nepotism occurs in both monarchies and republics alike, but the average person sees it as embedded in monarchies due to hereditary rule.Are you being sarcastic or serious with this part? Not only is its government system rooted in rebellion against the prevailing system, but nowadays monarchy carries connotations of nepotism and privilege, which reeks of stagnation at best and regression at worst. Sure it’s fun to imagine a scenario where American Royals is a reality, but that comes across as wishful thinking that ignores the challenges real royals face.”
I don’t want to derail the thread on differences between monarchy vs republic, but I found your comment interesting.in my eyes, certain republics look more like crowned republics to me.I was being serious. Sure, nepotism occurs in both monarchies and republics alike, but the average person sees it as embedded in monarchies due to hereditary rule.
I was being serious. Sure, nepotism occurs in both monarchies and republics alike, but the average person sees it as embedded in monarchies due to hereditary rule.
With the latter I beg to differ. Lucas van Lippe-Biesterfeld van Vollenhoven was promoted way faster (while he didn't meet the criteria) than anyone would expect based on his experience - the Ministry explained that 'because of the special bond between the military and the House of Orange-Nassau a special trajectory had been created for him... The Dutch public broadcaster (NOS) reported the story about Lucas with the heading 'Preferential treatment for members of the royal family at the Armed Forces'.I am not sure the association between monarchy and nepotism is correct. The eldest child (previously the eldest son) of the monarch is the heir to the Crown, but that is who he or she is by definition. Putting it in another way, as long as he or she is alive and is not otherwise disqualified by law, no one else may hold that position. In classic nepotism, however, a person is not barred a priori from holding an office or position, but someone else gets that position instead because of a family connection.
It should be stressed that, in the European monarchies, working members of the Royal Family actually cannot be members of Parliament, or government ministers, or normally become civil servants. So the possibility of a member of the Royal Family holding a position in the public administration actually does not exist. Royal Family members often serve, however, in the military, but there is no evidence that they are fast-tracked or get any privilege compared to other ordinary officers because of their family connections. Once they leave active service, they usually hold honorary ranks, which are typically above the rank they held when they retired, but, again, as the name says, those ranks are purely honorary.
With the latter I beg to differ. Lucas van Lippe-Biesterfeld van Vollenhoven was promoted way faster (while he didn't meet the criteria) than anyone would expect based on his experience - the Ministry explained that 'because of the special bond between the military and the House of Orange-Nassau a special trajectory had been created for him... The Dutch public broadcaster (NOS) reported the story about Lucas with the heading 'Preferential treatment for members of the royal family at the Armed Forces'.
And many royals indeed do also keep moving up the ranks after leaving active service which has very much to do with them being members of the royal family.