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woops, thanks for correcting me about the Queen Sofia-Princess of Asturias thing- I wasn't quite sure about that one!
Another:
HRH Duchess Sophie in Bavaria married HSH Hereditary Prince Alois of Liechtenstein. She carries the title of HRH Hereditary Princess of Liechtenstein, Princess of Bavaria, Duchess in Bavaria,Countess Rietberg.
My only confusion is if she still carries Princess of (or in) Bavaria since HRH indicates that she is a princess?
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HRH Duchess Sophie in Bavaria married HSH Hereditary Prince Alois of Liechtenstein. She carries the title of HRH Hereditary Princess of Liechtenstein, Princess of Bavaria, Duchess in Bavaria,Countess Rietberg.
My only confusion is if she still carries Princess of (or in) Bavaria since HRH indicates that she is a princess?
I am wondering if anyone has an idea about how a title would be handled in marriage between royals. Specifically the marriage of a female royal of a non-reigning house to a male royal of a reigning house. For example:
If HRH Princess Theodora of Greece and Denmark married HRH Prince Felix of Luxembourg, what would her title be?
HRH Princess Theodora of Luxembourg, Greece and Denmark? Or, since Luxembourg's monarchy is still reigning, would she just become HRH Princess Theodora of Luxembourg, dropping the Greece and Denmark?
When Prince Philip of Greece decided to marry his distant cousin Princess Elizabeth of England it was decided that since she was to be queen of England, he should adopt her title. Philip then became the Lieutenant Philip Mountbatten. Upon his marriage he became Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh. Later, upon the queen's decree, he was titled His Royal Highness Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh.
She would have been Dowager Duchess of York wouldn't she?Precisely. The Queen Mum was known as such because she was a Queen first, then Queen Mother. If (for sake of argument) Edward VII had been able to keep the throne and then died without issue, Elizabeth Bowed-Lyon would never have been known as the Queen Mother; she would never have been Queen.
Similarly, one cannot be Dowager X if one was never X in the first place, or if X is dependent on very specific circumstances.
She would have been Dowager Duchess of York wouldn't she?
As for the case in Sweden, it happened 60 years ago to the present king's mother, but she wasn't yet Crown Pss, her husband was the oldest son of the Crown prince, grandson of the king, he was heir apparent, when she died, she continued to be Pss of Sweden, am I right?
Queen Mary was never the Queen Mother, she was the king's mother. Queen Victoria's mum was never the Queen, No other Queen (not consort) for many years had a mother who was Queen(consort) before her (and had the same name) and still alive. So the question arose when the queen ascended the throne , what to call her mother, how should she be known. She still was The Dowager Queen Elizabeth, but was given an honourary title "Queen Mother"The "Queen Mother" wouldn't have been titled as such if she did not share a Christian name with her daughter. She was always titled "Queen Elizabeth", with the latter part only added to distinguish her from her reigning daughter. Queen Mary was, for example, never a "Queen Mother", and it is not traditional to use "Dowager" as a part of the formal title.
Which person she was mother of was immaterial; Queen Mother refers to the fact that she was a Queen herself, as well as Mother of the sovereign.
She was rather the royalest royal, though. Good turn of phrase.
She still was The Dowager Queen Elizabeth, but was given an honourary title "Queen Mother"
what if the Crown Prince, who has a heir Dies. What would the title of his widow, the mother of the new crown Prince or Princess be??
I know something like that happened in Sweden. but I dont understand what would happen.
would she no longer be refered as the crown Princess or just go back to be a princess
Generally, the royal spouse takes on the title of the spouse who's title is highest, if that title is transferable. Some royals, most commonly those who are marrying future monarchs, will renounce or stop using their previous titles, usually as a sign of allegiance and fidelity to their new country.
For example, Her Royal Highness Princess Sophia of Greece, upon marrying His Royal Highness Prince Juan Carlos of Spain, adopted her new title as Princess of Spain, later Princess of Asturias and, now, Queen of Spain.
When Prince Philip of Greece decided to marry his distant cousin Princess Elizabeth of England it was decided that since she was to be queen of England, he should adopt her title. Philip then became the Lieutenant Philip Mountbatten. Upon his marriage he became Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh. Later, upon the queen's decree, he was titled His Royal Highness Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh.
A more rare circumstance is that of Princess Haya of Jordan and her husband, Sheik Mohammad bin Rashid al Maktoum. Haya, as technically the higher-ranking royal (she is a HRH, he is only an HH) kept her own styling as Her Royal Highness Princess Haya. This is rarer because not only is the higher ranked partner a female but also because he is the ruler of Dubai while she is only the younger sister of the king.
Princess Haya does not outrank her husband being she is not head of state
even though she is a member of a reigning royal family.Her husband outranks her
being he is a reigning royal head of state.