Duke of Marmalade
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One can only hope that the Shaman will not make a great entrance at the funeral.
Has there been any word from Princess ML at all? Even on social media? I can only imagine her sense of shock.......
According to the article, Ari's neighbors said that his house remained in darkness on Christmas Eve. That sounds ominous and heartbreaking...that he was possibly sitting alone in the dark the night before his death.
Has there been any word from Princess ML at all? Even on social media? I can only imagine her sense of shock.......
It's extremely tragic but it seems a wise decision to be open about the fact that his cause of death is suicide. Otherwise speculations would have been rampant; now everyone can concentrate on the tragedy and support those closest to him.
Kudos to the family for being transparent with Ari's cause of death.
Behn, an author and artist, had been controversial as well. He had a spectacular debut in 1999 with his book Trist som faen (Sad as hell) that won good reviews and sold 100,000 copies. He relished in being a modern-day bohemian, became an instant member of Norway’s literary scene and made headlines when he tattooed VG‘s own high rating of “6” for his book on his arm.
He then went on to win the princess and become part of Norway’s royal family. He kept writing and branched into various forms of artistry, from designing glassworks to painting, holding an exhibition as late as this fall with Mikael Persbrandt. He enjoyed meeting the public and won a few prizes in Østfold, his home county south of Oslo. There were several run-ins with the press, however, and he struggled to make a comeback as an author. He had told VG in October, however, that he had a good relationship with Princess Martha Louise and with the king and queen after their divorce. “They’re the grandparents of my children and I love them very much,” he told VG.
I agree totally with you, thank you for expressing things so well, I'll just add Something, when someone tries to help you, you see it but it doesn't have any effect because you are so very down and you feel horribly guilty not to respond properly to their act of kindness. My own experience of course.Such shocking news. I was aware that Ari had suffered from mental health problems in the past, but I had no idea that he was in such a dire state. And the fact that he spent his last hours on the planet alone in the darkness is even more heartbreaking
I think it's too soon to judge whether or not Ari's actions were "selfish" - as someone who struggles with depression and anxiety, and recently OCD, I can totally sympathise with how Ari felt and relate to his struggles as I myself am a survivor of an attempted suicide. I think depression consumes so much of a suicidal person's mind that all rational thoughts go out of the window (I know this has certainly been the case with me in the past) and they truly do believe that death is the only way out of their struggles. A lot of suicidal people refuse any help they are offered, even from the closest of family members and friends. So it's possible Ari had a large support network, but was in too much of a despairing frame of mind to take it. It's something one can only fully understand if they have been through it themselves; but I realised it was so important to talk to someone after I started seeing a psychologist. I am still suffering from depression/anxiety but it's a lot more moderate than it was because I have a safe space I know I can go to if I ever start to feel low, that then makes me feel better about myself as a result.
I just wish mental health was as normalised as physical health when it comes to having support and treatment. So many lives could have been saved.
Such shocking news. I was aware that Ari had suffered from mental health problems in the past, but I had no idea that he was in such a dire state. And the fact that he spent his last hours on the planet alone in the darkness is even more heartbreaking
I think it's too soon to judge whether or not Ari's actions were "selfish" - as someone who struggles with depression and anxiety, and recently OCD, I can totally sympathise with how Ari felt and relate to his struggles as I myself am a survivor of an attempted suicide. I think depression consumes so much of a suicidal person's mind that all rational thoughts go out of the window (I know this has certainly been the case with me in the past) and they truly do believe that death is the only way out of their struggles. A lot of suicidal people refuse any help they are offered, even from the closest of family members and friends. So it's possible Ari had a large support network, but was in too much of a despairing frame of mind to take it. It's something one can only fully understand if they have been through it themselves; but I realised it was so important to talk to someone after I started seeing a psychologist. I am still suffering from depression/anxiety but it's a lot more moderate than it was because I have a safe space I know I can go to if I ever start to feel low, that then makes me feel better about myself as a result.
I just wish mental health was as normalised as physical health when it comes to having support and treatment. So many lives could have been saved.
Thank you very much !Thank you rominet 09 and hereditary princess for sharing your struggles with us. I wish you both full health in the New Year
It's so very easy for people who doesn't suffer from this mental illness to speak about an individual who perhaps had to deal with this for a while. How about you walk in his shoes before calling him a coward.This is not the news a family wishes to hear around Christmas. Especially Ari's children. Suicide to me, in any way, shape or form, is selfish and a coward's way out of problems or issues.
My heart goes out to the family he's left behind.
I don’t usually comment on this thread, but after hearing of Ari Behn’s death by suicide I read all the comments on this thread.
I want to support posters above who feel that mental illnesses should be regarded in the same light as physical illnesses. Depression, “this terrible disease” to quote Virginia Woolf, is a biological illness just as cancer or diabetes, and can be as life threatening.
I also feel Ari Behn’s family did the right thing to openly acknowledge his death by suicide. There is still much stigma and shame surrounding mental health and suicide, and talking about it openly will go a long way to remove the stigma.
I don’t agree with posters who feel that taking one’s own life is a selfish act. A person who is in such deep despair and mental anguish is beyond rational thought and not capable of taking a rational decision. Much of my reading on the subject suggests that these persons do not want to die, but are really looking for relief from their terrible psychic pain.
My husband and I lost our beautiful talented 21-year old daughter to depression and suicide barely two months before she was to graduate from university. Our lives were forever changed, we as individuals are forever changed. We can never again be the persons we were before. And regardless of the day on which our child left, be it Christmas or any other day, life in general, and every special occasion, has lost much of its sparkle.
Ari Behn’s three young daughters must be devastated, to lose a parent at such a young age must be particularly difficult. My thoughts and prayers are with them.
I don’t usually comment on this thread, but after hearing of Ari Behn’s death by suicide I read all the comments on this thread.
I want to support posters above who feel that mental illnesses should be regarded in the same light as physical illnesses. Depression, “this terrible disease” to quote Virginia Woolf, is a biological illness just as cancer or diabetes, and can be as life threatening.
I also feel Ari Behn’s family did the right thing to openly acknowledge his death by suicide. There is still much stigma and shame surrounding mental health and suicide, and talking about it openly will go a long way to remove the stigma.
I don’t agree with posters who feel that taking one’s own life is a selfish act. A person who is in such deep despair and mental anguish is beyond rational thought and not capable of taking a rational decision. Much of my reading on the subject suggests that these persons do not want to die, but are really looking for relief from their terrible psychic pain.
My husband and I lost our beautiful talented 21-year old daughter to depression and suicide barely two months before she was to graduate from university. Our lives were forever changed, we as individuals are forever changed. We can never again be the persons we were before. And regardless of the day on which our child left, be it Christmas or any other day, life in general, and every special occasion, has lost much of its sparkle.
Ari Behn’s three young daughters must be devastated, to lose a parent at such a young age must be particularly difficult. My thoughts and prayers are with them.
^ Their death is STILL of their own volition, regardless.. and not the same as a 'natural death'
I don’t usually comment on this thread, but after hearing of Ari Behn’s death by suicide I read all the comments on this thread.
I want to support posters above who feel that mental illnesses should be regarded in the same light as physical illnesses. Depression, “this terrible disease” to quote Virginia Woolf, is a biological illness just as cancer or diabetes, and can be as life threatening.
I also feel Ari Behn’s family did the right thing to openly acknowledge his death by suicide. There is still much stigma and shame surrounding mental health and suicide, and talking about it openly will go a long way to remove the stigma.
I don’t agree with posters who feel that taking one’s own life is a selfish act. A person who is in such deep despair and mental anguish is beyond rational thought and not capable of taking a rational decision. Much of my reading on the subject suggests that these persons do not want to die, but are really looking for relief from their terrible psychic pain.
My husband and I lost our beautiful talented 21-year old daughter to depression and suicide barely two months before she was to graduate from university. Our lives were forever changed, we as individuals are forever changed. We can never again be the persons we were before. And regardless of the day on which our child left, be it Christmas or any other day, life in general, and every special occasion, has lost much of its sparkle.
Ari Behn’s three young daughters must be devastated, to lose a parent at such a young age must be particularly difficult. My thoughts and prayers are with them.
In Germany, the media usually speaks openly about suicide (because it will get out anyway and the speculation on social media is worse) but they always add a line, something like ... if you have suicidal thoughts or need help please contact xxx. in case people become depressed over the article.
It is the same in the Dutch media.In Germany, the media usually speaks openly about suicide (because it will get out anyway and the speculation on social media is worse) but they always add a line, something like ... if you have suicidal thoughts or need help please contact xxx. in case people become depressed over the article.
It is the same in the Dutch media.
I would be not surprised if his funeral will take place without notice of the press and the publicity.
Although it may have seemed heartless for me to deem suicide as a coward's way out, I can speak from experience that it is. I just wish that Ari had the courage to talk to someone, anyone, before taking that drastic move. Where there is life, there is hope and if things are so bad that suicide seems the only way out, its hard to remember that the only way from rock bottom is up.
Fortunately, for me, it wasn't the answer I chose but it very well could have been. My apologies for coming across the wrong way. Any life lost before its time is a tragedy.
It's so very easy for people who doesn't suffer from this mental illness to speak about an individual who perhaps had to deal with this for a while. How about you walk in his shoes before calling him a coward.
I’m not getting into a debate such as this one on this thread, however I would advise posters to read all, and think clearly before attacking other members for their opinions.
I’m not getting into a debate such as this one on this thread, however I would advise posters to read all, and think clearly before attacking other members for their opinions.