Funeral of King Constantine - January 16, 2023


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Tatiana Maria said:
Precisely because it was not a state funeral, the presence of nearly all European royal heads of state can be taken as a mark of how well loved and esteemed Konstantinos was among his royal cousins, which must be a comfort to his family.

Do we know whether Princess Margaretha of Liechtenstein, Princess of Luxembourg, was representing the ruling family of Liechtenstein or Luxembourg or both?
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Once again, Margareta was there for Liechtenstein
walking along with Henri from Luxembourg,it's two different countries!
 
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Too bad Prince William did not attend his Godfathers funeral. He could have gone with his aunt. RIP King Constantine
 
Finally i managed to watch the full ceremony video. Very touching I was to tears.
Queen Anna Maria was almost near to fall twice,when paying her respects to the coffin upon her arrival. Hopefully Pavlos was near to help her.
Also many times she searched confort through eyes connection with Queen Sofia.

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valeas said:
Once again, Margareta was there for Liechtenstein
walking along with Henri from Luxembourg,it's two different countries!
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Thank you for the response, but how do you know that Margaretha was representing Liechtenstein and not Luxembourg at the funeral?
 
I started at the Royal Jewels Message Board a thread concerning King Constantine's Orders at his Funerals and about the late King's Ring.
 
The hootings were to the politiciansl, but I think that was reasonable, why? Because if you don't declare the official funeral, why send government representatives? The normal thing is that no one from the government would have gone ...... It offends me personally, the Prime Minister says that there will be no state funerals, because Greece does not recognize King Constantine as the former Head of State. And he speaks in the media, he seems to show a cockiness regarding his decision, but as the preparations progress and it is published that European royal houses are going to attend, that the IOC has declared mourning for the death of the king and it is Going to be a funeral with a large audience, the attitude of government changes, and the government increases its representation at the funeral. Who said that it was not official was the Prime Minister... And then, why have he sent government representatives to the funeral?.

I would boo them too, he proves to be an opportunist

Regardless of what I have just said, I believe that the funeral was very nice, with the representatives of royal Houses... I think that if the Greek government had not said that it was not official, nothing would have happened, because the truth has been a beautiful funeral at the height of a state funeral. Even seeing the public lining up to pay their respects at the king's coffin has been incredible.
 
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Unfortunately the way funeral was held, managed to upset everyone.

The royalty haters ... who just wanted the King (they call him the Gluksburg) to be thrown in a black hole in the middle of the night...They were furious to see 8 kings + Princes etc etc to attend and also the huge coverage received, they complained about the Metropolis granted and the right to be buried in Tatoi...
Of course the Royal lovers, as they wanted a full honor ceremony for their King.
But also the middle thinkers. Not royalist but.... believers that you can't deny history and behavior like this.
An example : You might have a former Admiral.... 30 years after his retirement he will bu buried with military honors... but not a King? Why? No sense.

For me it was a perfectly organized and executed ceremony at any moment. A perfect mixture of Majesty, protocole but also human feelings and sorrow. You could see the burial of a part if history but also of a husband, father, brother....
Only protocole error: Prince Albert arrived and no-one received his as all the others. Finally inside the church Prince Nikolaos received, despite it should be Pavlos.

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fandesacs2003 said:
The couple near Chantal Hochuli is the Badens? So descendants from one of the Sisters of late prince Philip DoE ?
It was the second lady with Queen Maxima wearing a black vale.
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Yes, that is Bernhard of Baden and his wife Stephanie. He is Princess Theodora's grandson.
 
fandesacs2003 said:
The couple near Chantal Hochuli is the Badens? So descendants from one of the Sisters of late prince Philip DoE ?
It was the second lady with Queen Maxima wearing a black vale.
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Yes:

Prince Andreas of Greece and Denmark x Alice Prinzessin von Battenberg (parents of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh)
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Princess Theodora of Greece and Denmark x Berthold Prinz und Markgraf von Baden, Herzog von Zähringen
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Maximilian Prinz und Markgraf von Baden, Herzog von Zähringen x Valerie Erzherzogin von Österreich, Prinzessin von Toskana
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Bernhard Prinz und Markgraf von Baden, Herzog von Zähringen
 
fandesacs2003 said:
The couple near Chantal Hochuli is the Badens? So descendants from one of the Sisters of late prince Philip DoE ?
It was the second lady with Queen Maxima wearing a black vale.
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Yes that are Margave Bernhard and Margravine Stephanie of Baden. Don't know why she wears a veil as the Badens are protestant not catholic.
 
Stefan said:
Yes that are Margave Bernhard and Margravine Stephanie of Baden. Don't know why she wears a veil as the Badens are protestant not catholic.
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It is up to them,regardless denomination.n' Importe pas!
 
Lipe said:
The hootings were to the politiciansl, but I think that was reasonable, why? Because if you don't declare the official funeral, why send government representatives? The normal thing is that no one from the government would have gone ...... It offends me personally, the Prime Minister says that there will be no state funerals, because Greece does not recognize King Constantine as the former Head of State. And he speaks in the media, he seems to show a cockiness regarding his decision, but as the preparations progress and it is published that European royal houses are going to attend, that the IOC has declared mourning for the death of the king and it is Going to be a funeral with a large audience, the attitude of government changes, and the government increases its representation at the funeral. Who said that it was not official was the Prime Minister... And then, why have he sent government representatives to the funeral?.

I would boo them too, he proves to be an opportunist

Regardless of what I have just said, I believe that the funeral was very nice, with the representatives of royal Houses... I think that if the Greek government had not said that it was not official, nothing would have happened, because the truth has been a beautiful funeral at the height of a state funeral. Even seeing the public lining up to pay their respects at the king's coffin has been incredible.
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The hoortng,to greek politicians,or whatever they call themselves,is a fine example of how fet up Greece is with politics and its constant failure to perform.A useless lot..
 
Without trying to take part of the PM decision, you have to understand how delicate and difficult it was to take a decision, because whichever would be this decision, it would upset a part of the population, in any case.
People's position towards Monarchy in Greece is very complicated to understand for someone not Greek. It can go from adoration to hate. 50 years after the end of Monarchy in Greece, they are still people who mention the GRF with insult terms and aversion, they refuse to pronounce their titles, and they refute the fact that HLM has been buried in Tatoi, as Tatoi is a public property and Greek citizens have no right to be buried everywhere they wish, especially in a public property.
Greeks can follow with passion all the European RFs covering all the bling bling, but whatever it comes to GRF suddenly...only rejection and refusal of History. One of reasons is the position of HLM the King during the military junta.
These people disagreed with the so called private funeral, because a private citizen is not buried like this.. imagine a Head of State ceremony..
Another part (uncountable) wanted a full State funeral, so they are upset to....
Don't trust the attendance out of the Metropolis. They were a few thousand. They don't make a powerful group neither their voting is heavily weighing...
Since the moment HLM the King passed in Greece and of course wanted to be buried in Greece.. a very strong problem started, without satisfactory solution. The actual government will be harmed by its decision...but would be harmed by any decision...

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I have to agree with @fandesacs2003, it was normal to not decide for a state funeral, the majority of the public would have been angry. And, yes, even if we here would have liked it to be otherwise, the crowd was not that huge, not so to make any difference.
Besides, it doesn't matter, I don't think members of the former royal family have any claims whatsoever and I appreciate their realism.
 
Almost 60 years separate these 2 pictures. Same venue, the central path of the Athens Metropolis, same woman, HM the Queen, same diamond cross, different circumstances.
In the first pic, a young magnificent girl, walks down the aisle to meet her future husband for life.
In the second pic a mature magnificent lady walks again down the aisle to say farewell to her life love and partner.

Heartbreaking.



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Does anyone have a clue, why Prince Ernst August Sr, jump out of the car who brought them at Metropolis, ran like a crazy first, leaving behind his brother and sister in law, and much behind, his own wife and mother? Does he start showing signs of his father's wonderful character ?
Also interesting the presence of the former Princess of Hannover, she does not belong at the family anymore, unless she had personal bonds with the Royal couple.
 
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fandesacs2003 said:
Does anyone have a clue, why Prince Ernst August Sr, jump out of the car who brought them at Metropolis, ran like a crazy first, leaving behind his brother and sister in law, and much behind, his own wife and mother? Does he start showing signs of his father's wonderful character ?
Also interesting the presence of the former Princess of Hannover, she does not belong at the family anymore, unless she had personal bonds with the Royal couple.
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"Also interesting the presence of the former Princess of Hannover": I think that's why Caroline of Hannover didn't go to the funeral. As she still has the title of Hannover, she couldn't be present with her brother.
 
capri said:
"Also interesting the presence of the former Princess of Hannover": I think that's why Caroline of Hannover didn't go to the funeral. As she still has the title of Hannover, she couldn't be present with her brother.
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It is obvious that the two ladies can't be in the same event. This is the reason why Princess Caroline did not attend anyone of her stepsons' wedding, despite that her own kids have attended.
But the question is why Chantal has attended. Shouldn't be as a representative of the House of Hannover.

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fandesacs2003 said:
It is obvious that the two ladies can't be in the same event. This is the reason why she did not attend anyone of her stepsons' wedding, despite that her own kids have attended.
But the question is why Chantal has attended. Shouldn't be as a representative of the House of Hannover.

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Chantal was very close to the family. Her ex husband and Constantine were cousins.
 
fandesacs2003 said:
Also interesting the presence of the former Princess of Hannover, she does not belong at the family anymore, unless she had personal bonds with the Royal couple.
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Chantal Hochuli doesn't use the title of Princess of Hanover.

AFAIK, they are part of the same set with the Millers. In fact, the CP family of Greece was quite present in the weddings of both Princes Christian and Ernst Jr.
 
eya said:
Princess Tatiana in her instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cn9uUcUu0wy/?hl=el
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I applaud the Royal Family, because it is very difficult to prepare a funeral in such a short time, and they have done a fantastic job. It is obvious that King Constantine was highly appreciated by members of royal Houses, who have sent the Head of the Royal House to the funeral, such as the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Monaco, Sweden... And of course the family, the Royal House Danish, and the Spanish Royal Family. This has been a funeral fit for a King. King Constantine would be very proud of his children and of course his beloved Queen Anne Marie. This has been very nice, even seeing all those people in the streets and in the chapel prior to the funeral, it has been very nice.And the words of Prince Pavlos... It has been a very nice funeral.
 
Nice post by Tatiana. She always seems to hit the right notes. Very touching.
 
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