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A premonition from 3 years ago?
A premonition from 3 years ago?
I dont watch anything like that but does that mean that they might (when Covid fades away) have a camera crew following htem as they take A to school, do the odd charity engagement.. go skiing etc?? it doesnt sound all that interesting.. and Im surprised that they'd get money for that. I thought that they'd make programmes about issues or docu dramas or dramas written by professioinal writers and acted by pro actors...
Actually I didn't think of cameras following around, which might appeal to some. I thought they are expect to produce documentaries on the environment, health and wellness, landmines, etc.
I don't know as I don't watch most recent TV.. but honestly i cant' see loads of people watching stuff about the environment or health problems for long....Actually I didn't think of cameras following around, which might appeal to some. I thought they are expect to produce documentaries on the environment, health and wellness, landmines, etc.
I just can't see either of them coming up with anything interesting or worthwhile - that would require far more intelligence than either have displayed up to this point in time.
When someone is in the business of "making a difference" and helping other people to find help and solutions for issues they're experiencing, it didn't help the Sussex goal of promoting mental health by Meghan just elaborating on what she felt and what she was experiencing (which, btw, I take as valid). She was having issues getting help she felt she needed. She left it there. She didn't go anywhere near what she *did* do to solve her mental health issues. Do they still exist? Have they dissipated? Is she still suffering mentally because of what she experienced and is she talking to a professional at all?
She did a good job of throwing the blame on others for not listening and providing help when needed but there were no solutions mentioned at all. It all stopped after the accusations against others not doing anything for her. What did she then do for herself? What did Harry do? Was the move away from the "toxic environment" the cure or was it actually running away from the core issues? None of these answers were provided. We just were given the stone wall that Meghan perceived she ran into. Big, bad stone wall did it.
When someone is sitting on the pity pot, that pot gets awfully comfortable.
Its as if he thinks that someone will help him out somehow, and give him money..
I just can't see either of them coming up with anything interesting or worthwhile - that would require far more intelligence than either have displayed up to this point in time.
I agree to an extent that I would have asked alot more questions about her mental health- especially since she made a big deal about suicidal and not getting the help she needed at that time. I wanted to know how did she get help? Is she in therapy?..etc..etc.
I disagree about the spirit of Archewell being at odds with the couple's. I don't believe they're bad people with no good intentions and as such cannot have a philanthropic foundation.
I believe they felt terribly disappointed and hurt at the treatment they received being senior members of the royal family. They never threw anyone under the bus- they simply explained how they felt and their version of the events- their "truths".
but clearly Harry did think that Dad would keep on coughing up.. and it was only when he didn't that he, Harry, signed the netflix deal. so to me that doesn't seem to say that Harry is fully committed to the deal and eager to turn in ideas to make money from it and to go on with more deals in the same vein. I think that if things do go pear shaped Charles will offer help but in terms of yes something like coming back ot the UK and living quietly on an allowance...I don't see that happening at all. If things did get really dire and everything falls apart for the Sussexes, I can see Charles stepping in but with very stringent conditions such as returning to the UK and living relatively like Andrew is at Frogmore Cottage. Stay out of sight and out of the public eye and I'll provide you with the necessities kind of thing. Anything related to the monarchy would be totally out for the couple.
Somehow though, I don't see Harry and Meghan meekly accepting those kind of terms at all. Harry may want to but I don't think Meghan would.
Let's just hope that this couple does go on to be self sustainable and make their own way in the world nicely and raise their family happily in California with no further mud slinging about the way things were. They've done enough in that vein.
There has been speculation for some time in various media forums / press with regards the relationship between the 2 couples.
It varies between, one lot was jealous of the others popularity or one lot was jealous of the others position in the family. Nobody really knew if there was any truth in any of it. Last year at the abbey was the first sign, but it is perfectly clear now that the two women did not get on for whatever reason.
Unfortunately Meghan appears to still hold negative thoughts about the situation and despite her promotion of kindness and compassion it does not stretch to the Cambridges.
Will this have an effect on their brand of kindness and compassion which she clearly fails to demonstrate herself. According to Meghan , Kate sent flowers and a note but she does not appear to want to accept this , it was mentioned in the interview and now the e mails. After 3 years I find this an unhealthy obsession.
They've thrown the entire family under the bus with the skin tone comment. Firstly, if they knew it would be very damaging, why bring it up at all? Now when they have neither given the context nor named anyone, the public would look at everyone with suspicion, except for Queen and Prince Philip. Harry said that he did not want anyone to suspect the Queen or Prince Philip, does that mean it's okay for them to suspect his father and brother even though they might not have been the ones who said it?
Even if I accept for a second that they didn't throw anyone under the bus with the skin tone comment, she DEFINITELY did throw Kate under the bus well knowing that she wouldn't respond. Is it really that important to her? It is SO petty. So kindergarten.
The skin tone comment was reportedly said by *one individual*. Only had that person been named could one make an argument that the particular individual was thrown under the bus- but no name was given. On the other hand, if such a racist comment with bad intentions that individual deserved to be thrown under the bus.
Kate was definitely not thrown under the bus. Really? Her name came up as an example of the powers that be failing to correct a story and perpetuating a story that made Meghan out to be villain. If anything Meghan showed how genuine, kind, and a what a real class act Kate is by mentioning how she apologized and sent her flowers after incident.
The skin tone comment was reportedly said by *one individual*. Only had that person been named could one make an argument that the particular individual was thrown under the bus- but no name was given. On the other hand, if such a racist comment with bad intentions that individual deserved to be thrown under the bus.
Kate was definitely not thrown under the bus. Really? Her name came up as an example of the powers that be failing to correct a story and perpetuating a story that made Meghan out to be villain. If anything Meghan showed how genuine, kind, and a what a real class act Kate is by mentioning how she apologized and sent her flowers after incident.
They've thrown the entire family under the bus with the skin tone comment. Firstly, if they knew it would be very damaging, why bring it up at all? Now when they have neither given the context nor named anyone, the public would look at everyone with suspicion, except for Queen and Prince Philip. Harry said that he did not want anyone to suspect the Queen or Prince Philip, does that mean it's okay for them to suspect his father and brother even though they might not have been the ones who said it?
Even if I accept for a second that they didn't throw anyone under the bus with the skin tone comment, she DEFINITELY did throw Kate under the bus well knowing that she wouldn't respond. Is it really that important to her? It is SO petty. So kindergarten.
The Queen has had it right for all these years: do whatever possible to keep up the mystery. Letting people see behind the royal curtain chips away at the fascination. It's never more true than today. It takes very little to undermine that mystique, with social media and round the clock blogging that dissects every move. H & M may remember this interview and their behavior afterwards as the moment that they became celebrities and not royalty. Which is fine, if that's what they want. I'm not sure they do.
The skin tone comment was reportedly said by *one individual*. Only had that person been named could one make an argument that the particular individual was thrown under the bus- but no name was given. On the other hand, if such a racist comment with bad intentions that individual deserved to be thrown under the bus.
Now they have the contract with Netflix but there's no sign of anything being produced, and I wonder if he (OR maybe Meg too) has the least idea what they will need to do to fulfil the deal...
I dont know what the deal is, but I presume if they don't come up with successful ideas and put them out, Netflix will pull the deal or not renew it and they will look ridiculous. It looks right now as if they have taken an advance but so far have done nothing to earn it...
That one person could have been anyone apart from Queen and Prince Philip. So yes, by bringing it up and not naming them, the entire family has been thrown under the bus because of an individual's comment, racist or not.
Meghan didn't have to bring it up at all coz it was long forgotten. N Kate's name didn't come up as an example, it was well planned. Mails have been leaked regarding that, what's the obsession? N even now people swear by the fact that Kate was the one who cried because of Meghan's behaviour towards her staff, and I believe that. How do we know that there couldn't have been another incident where Kate did cry? So, she did throw Kate under the bus.
We don't even know what was said, maybe it was something completely innocent, such as " do you think your child will look like you or Meghan", so until we have a direct quote from that conversation, it is impossible to judge, that' why I think Harry should own up and name the person and say exactly what was said and in what context, otherwise it's very unfair to the RF
Had Meghan give multiple instances of various family members saying offensive and racists things then yes perhaps. However she gave just one incident of a one individual making such a statement. That is definitely not throwing the family under the bus.
Regarding the Kate incident it has been the one longstanding story that refuses to go away. People believe allegations about staff abuse because of that story. The reality is that Meghan portrayed Kate in a flattering way as someone who was kind and humble- someone who apogized when they were wrong and even gave Meghan flowers. Meghan said nothing bad about Kate.
The fact that you would believe Meghan made Kate cry despite the leaked emails that state otherwise and despite the fact that Meghan clarified that it was just the opposite just about says it all.
With respect to the comments about the way a child would look, I think we only have to listen to the question to Prince William about whether the royal family is racist. This would be similar to a situation in which there is a public claim that someone in your family said something racist, but they wouldn't give a name. You, along with everyone else in your family, would be suspected. Moreover, you admit that it would make a difference if the comment was made with bad intentions, but we don't know whether it was because they refused to provide the context.
Regarding the Meghan made Kate cry story, Meghan could have just said it wasn't true but she insisted on trying to make Catherine look bad. Perhaps that is why the media office didn't want to respond. Actually, I really doubt Meghan's version of events. If Kate made her cry, why wasn't that revealed in Finding Freedom? Apparently, if Finding Freedom, they were more concerned about who leaked the story. Calling it a "leak" implies that the original story was accurate. If the story hadn't been true, why didn't Finding Freedom explain that they concerned about who was spreading false stories about Meghan.
Had Meghan give multiple instances of various family members saying offensive and racists things then yes perhaps. However she gave just one incident of a one individual making such a statement. That is definitely not throwing the family under the bus.
Regarding the Kate incident it has been the one longstanding story that refuses to go away. People believe allegations about staff abuse because of that story. The reality is that Meghan portrayed Kate in a flattering way as someone who was kind and humble- someone who apogized when they were wrong and even gave Meghan flowers. Meghan said nothing bad about Kate.
The fact that you would believe Meghan made Kate cry despite the leaked emails that state otherwise and despite the fact that Meghan clarified that it was just the opposite just about says it all.
Had Meghan give multiple instances of various family members saying offensive and racists things then yes perhaps. However she gave just one incident of a one individual making such a statement. That is definitely not throwing the family under the bus.
Why is Meghan keeping it going if Kate sent flowers and apologised, why is it not forgotten.
Why did They not raise the other stories they claimed were wrong , Tiara gate as an example.
I disagree. The couple made it clear that only one individual made such comment- they never passed judgment on the whole family. Moreover, any honest fair person would admit that the actions of one individual doesn't speak for the actions of many.
Let me play devil's advocate- imagine if Meghan simply said "it wasn't true"- no one would believe. She gave more details and many on this forum don't believe her- how much more so if she was vague. I never read Finding Freedom so I cannot comment on it- I can only comment om what I have seen and heard come out of Meghan's mouth via the interview.
Why is Meghan keeping it going if Kate sent flowers and apologised, why is it not forgotten.
Why did They not raise the other stories they claimed were wrong , Tiara gate as an example.