Duchess of Sussex, Current Events 2: February 2019 - March 2020

[BaiSoSo]

Celebrating the positives that the Sussexes have to offer society. Meghan did this while pregnant and post-partum.

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020021384761/exciting-news-for-meghan-markle/

 

[O-H Anglophile]

Celebrating the positives that the Sussexes have to offer society. Meghan did this while pregnant and post-partum.

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020021384761/exciting-news-for-meghan-markle/

While it is a postive achievement, millions of women do work while pregnant and go back to work after 6-12 weeks of time off.

I am all for celebrating achievements, but while a normal pregnancy can be tiring and challenging it isn't usually an impediment to standard activities.

 

[Hallo girl]

Exactly, and in some cases travelling to work on public transport, working all day then go home to the various chores before doing it all again the following day.

 

[ACO]

Great news about the Vogue issue. Nice to see hard work pay off especially when people were openly rooting for it to fail. So congrats to the UK Vogue team and Meghan.

 

[Countessmeout]

Exactly, and in some cases travelling to work on public transport, working all day then go home to the various chores before doing it all again the following day.

But no one was praising her for working pregnant. Baio simply pointed out this was something she did behind the scenes on maternity leave.


The article is praising the Cover, not her working while pregnant. The magazine was a massive success despite the deep criticism it faced. And that is an accomplishment for those involved.

 

[Lady Daly]

Unless I missed something that last one they did while they were still working members of the BRF.

Yes, I failed to read the Hello article, oops!
I only viewed the Twitter videos on @DelMody, @BritishVogue which were both time stamped today. I see the co-edited Vogue issue was Sept. 2019. Enninful did say he was "thrilled to report that newsstand sales of @BritishVogue are up in the second half of 2019, but the real highlight for me is the performance of our September 2019 issue. #ForcesForChange, guest-edited by The Duchess of Sussex @SussexRoyal, was our fastest-selling issue in the history of #BritishVogue (sold out in 10 days) and the biggest-selling issue of the past decade. I can't wait to see what 2020 has in store." I suppose some would say the success was only because at the time Meghan was a working member of the Royal family. The article and tweets were just released today, perhaps an indicator Edward Enninful @BritishVogue continues to support Meghan. If only I weren't a Vanity Fair girl I would have known about the Sept Vogue issue.

 

[Hallo girl]

Yes, I failed to read the Hello article, oops!
I only viewed the Twitter videos on @DelMody, @BritishVogue which were both time stamped today. I see the co-edited Vogue issue was Sept. 2019. Enninful did say he was "thrilled to report that newsstand sales of @BritishVogue are up in the second half of 2019, but the real highlight for me is the performance of our September 2019 issue. #ForcesForChange, guest-edited by The Duchess of Sussex @SussexRoyal, was our fastest-selling issue in the history of #BritishVogue (sold out in 10 days) and the biggest-selling issue of the past decade. I can't wait to see what 2020 has in store." I suppose some would say the success was only because at the time Meghan was a working member of the Royal family. The article and tweets were just released today, perhaps an indicator Edward Enninful @BritishVogue continues to support Meghan. If only I weren't a Vanity Fair girl I would have known about the Sept Vogue issue.

From what I picked up on the video Meghan had asked to co edit an edition she was not approached.
Do you think they would have been interested if it had been Meghan Markle actress in ' SUITS' that had made the request, or did her connection to the BRF give her the edge.
I must admit I found the video a bit cringy.

 

[muriel]

From what I picked up on the video Meghan had asked to co edit an edition she was not approached.
Do you think they would have been interested if it had been Meghan Markle actress in ' SUITS' that had made the request, or did her connection to the BRF give her the edge.
I must admit I found the video a bit cringy.

Meghan is clearly intelligent, hard working and enterprising, but her being the daughter-in-law of one of the world's most famous families certainly, IMO, gave her a platform through which opportunities like co-editing Vogue came.

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[ACO]

Meghan is clearly intelligent, hard working and enterprising, but her being the daughter-in-law of one of the world's most famous families certainly, IMO, gave her a platform through which opportunities like co-editing Vogue came.

This isn't new information. Meghan told this same story in the issue of Vogue. And of course being a royal afforded her these opportunities. That is the case for ALL of them, if we being real honest. That is their privilege.

 

[Lady Daly]

From what I picked up on the video Meghan had asked to co edit an edition she was not approached.
Do you think they would have been interested if it had been Meghan Markle actress in ' SUITS' that had made the request, or did her connection to the BRF give her the edge.
I must admit I found the video a bit cringy.

Oh definitely, I don't think Suits would have been quite enough. And, yes, it did sound from the video she approached Vogue but really, who actually knows the real back story on these things. I've subscribed to another big fashion mag, Vanity Fair, for decades mainly for the articles but fashion can be a lot of fun ~btw, have also followed Edward Enninful's adorable Boston Terrier Ru on IG for past couple of years. https://www.instagram.com/ruenninful/

Cringy, yeah, the high fashion industry can be way over the top, the people as well.

My point in pointing out, what I perceived at the time, Harry and Meghan's recent "adventures" was this. JP Morgan the crème de la crème in investment banking, Stanford University ala meeting with the... (cough)President no less, and still, it doesn't hurt to be in good graces with British Vogue. These are all big deals, who does this, bravo, good first show! It speaks to potential for their future success. I do want success for the Sussexes and for that matter I'm a big fan of the British Royal Family as a whole (but more so The Queen, Prince Charles and Camilla, The Cambridges, The Wessexes and several cousins of The Queen.?

 

[King of the Jungle]

From what I picked up on the video Meghan had asked to co edit an edition she was not approached.
Do you think they would have been interested if it had been Meghan Markle actress in ' SUITS' that had made the request, or did her connection to the BRF give her the edge.
I must admit I found the video a bit cringy.

I, too, did not like much about the video.
Why release it now? If Meghan and Harry are to redeem anything about themselves to the once admiring public, they need to work in a genuine way for just causes. Their current events lack purpose and direction - at a time when they are being scrutinized.

Unless they don't wish to capture the hearts of the type of people who find royals worthwhile? To be successful Harry and Meghan need to capture the attention of the wealthy. Their current events will be honey to money.

 

[Somebody]

From what I picked up on the video Meghan had asked to co edit an edition she was not approached.
Do you think they would have been interested if it had been Meghan Markle actress in ' SUITS' that had made the request, or did her connection to the BRF give her the edge.
I must admit I found the video a bit cringy.

It's clear Meghan was actively using her royal status to 'get' high-profile projects; asking Vogue to guest edit (which was a commercial success so great for Vogue) and a few months later having Harry asking for her to do voice overs for Disney. And have no doubts that they are continuing in that path - and I wouldn't be surprised if they succeed and become/remain a very rich and famous power couple: which they would not have been had Harry not been this famous British prince nor if Meghan had not had such an enormous drive.

Meghan was very 'over the top' in that video for me but that's partly a cultural issue as that's more the American than European way.

 

[Denville]

It's clear Meghan was actively using her royal status to 'get' high-profile projects; asking Vogue to guest edit (which was a commercial success so great for Vogue) and a few months later having Harry asking for her to do voice overs for Disney. And have no doubts that they are continuing in that path - and I wouldn't be surprised if they succeed and become/remain a very rich and famous power couple: which they would not have been had Harry not been this famous British prince nor if Meghan had not had such an enormous drive.

Meghan was very 'over the top' in that video for me but that's partly a cultural issue as that's more the American than European way.

well ya know.. Royals aren't supposed to do that sort of thing.. except for their charities. If she became a Duchess, and did the "Duchess job" to get exposure and fame which would help her to make for a post Royal career, that looks kind of tacky.

 

[_Heather_]

It's clear Meghan was actively using her royal status to 'get' high-profile projects; asking Vogue to guest edit (which was a commercial success so great for Vogue) and a few months later having Harry asking for her to do voice overs for Disney. And have no doubts that they are continuing in that path - and I wouldn't be surprised if they succeed and become/remain a very rich and famous power couple: which they would not have been had Harry not been this famous British prince nor if Meghan had not had such an enormous drive.

Meghan was very 'over the top' in that video for me but that's partly a cultural issue as that's more the American than European way.

I completely understand what you're saying here and I would agree that it's often a cultural difference but, speaking only for myself here as an American, I found it quite over the top as well. In fact, I said the exact same thing following the engagement interview and I was thoroughly dragged over the coals here but anyway, just a note to say that I agree.

 

[BaiSoSo]

I completely understand what you're saying here and I would agree that it's often a cultural difference but, speaking only for myself here as an American, I found it quite over the top as well. In fact, I said the exact same thing following the engagement interview and I was thoroughly dragged over the coals here but anyway, just a note to say that I agree.

I didn't think it was that over the top, she was excited about it, she put a lot of effort into it both pre and postpartum and the edition was fantastic. Nothing wrong with celebrating successes in life, especially when you try something new and different.

 

[tausi]

I agree it was so over the top, not the first time in my view. I find it so difficult to root for her because everything she does has to be about how great she is! and not the cause.

I couldn't even finish watching the whole clip. It's exhausting.

 

[wyevale]

^ This is why 'self-publicist' always pops into my head when I think of her [and it has since first I saw her in he engagement interview]..

Its no surprise she proved a 'bad fit' for the BRF.

 

[evolvingdoors]

I didn't think it was that over the top, she was excited about it, she put a lot of effort into it both pre and postpartum and the edition was fantastic. Nothing wrong with celebrating successes in life, especially when you try something new and different.

Except what sales were they celebrating? The outfit both were wearing in the video are from the same picture shown on the Instagram account when they were pictures standing In front of a screen as pictures of the women were being taken, back in.. June? July? Way before the issue came out.

 

[ACO]

They weren't celebrating any sales in the video. They were celebrating a successful collaboration of the project. I didn't find it over the top (nor their engagement interview). I mean other than the lack of nerves displayed by others, it was pretty standard.

 

[BaiSoSo]

Except what sales were they celebrating? The outfit both were wearing in the video are from the same picture shown on the Instagram account when they were pictures standing In front of a screen as pictures of the women were being taken, back in.. June? July? Way before the issue came out.

The completion of the project and I'm assuming ready for it to go to print...as they were reflecting on how it came to be. It was a 7-month process and as Edward said Meghan was very involved in it. It came during a time in which she was also working on another project (SmartWorks) and had a baby becoming a mom for the first time.

Look I get that some people don't like Meghan for whatever reason, but she isn't this monster or over the top crazy person that some try to portray her as. She took her role seriously and gave it her all and at the end took a moment to celebrate with the editor. It isn't that big of deal.

The fact that all that hard work resulted in the best-selling edition in the history of the magazine and sold out in 10 days IS a big deal.

 

[Fijiro]

I did not find it over the top. Celebrating is not a bad thing at all. We do that sometimes even after finishing an exam when we don't even have the results.

 

[XeniaCasaraghi]

I completely understand what you're saying here and I would agree that it's often a cultural difference but, speaking only for myself here as an American, I found it quite over the top as well. In fact, I said the exact same thing following the engagement interview and I was thoroughly dragged over the coals here but anyway, just a note to say that I agree.

Also an American and I can say I do not agree with what Meghan is doing or how she is acting; the Vogue debacle really turned me off of her because it was clear she was using her royal status. Shouldn't be surprised after she did an interview with a magazine when she was just dating Harry; something told me then there was something not right about the situation.

 

[evolvingdoors]

The completion of the project and I'm assuming ready for it to go to print...as they were reflecting on how it came to be. It was a 7-month process and as Edward said Meghan was very involved in it. It came during a time in which she was also working on another project (SmartWorks) and had a baby becoming a mom for the first time.

Look I get that some people don't like Meghan for whatever reason, but she isn't this monster or over the top crazy person that some try to portray her as. She took her role seriously and gave it her all and at the end took a moment to celebrate with the editor. It isn't that big of deal.

The fact that all that hard work resulted in the best-selling edition in the history of the magazine and sold out in 10 days IS a big deal.

It is most certainly not the best selling issue! In fact the sep 2016 issue sold more!
And fastest selling? Well it was priced half the regular price, even I considered buying it, but gave up when I saw what awaited inside.
I need to know how many copies were made compared to other sep issues.

No one said she is a monster, but she is over the top to the point of fakeness, and I lived in the US for 6 years I met and worked and lived with Americans.
As for not being crazy, I think she has several issues which she either chooses to ignore or ignorant of. (But that’s another post to a different thread).

 

[Fijiro]

Congratulation to Duchess Meghan -
https://www.forbes.com/sites/isabel...elling-in-the-magazines-history/#6f0e42e63130

 

[Osipi]

The completion of the project and I'm assuming ready for it to go to print...as they were reflecting on how it came to be. It was a 7-month process and as Edward said Meghan was very involved in it. It came during a time in which she was also working on another project (SmartWorks) and had a baby becoming a mom for the first time.

Look I get that some people don't like Meghan for whatever reason, but she isn't this monster or over the top crazy person that some try to portray her as. She took her role seriously and gave it her all and at the end took a moment to celebrate with the editor. It isn't that big of deal.

The fact that all that hard work resulted in the best-selling edition in the history of the magazine and sold out in 10 days IS a big deal.

In her time working for the "Firm", there have been several of Meghan's projects that can claim that its success went through the roof. The cookbook, the incentive for Smart Works and the guest editing for Vogue are a few examples of this.

Its success any way you slice it. As a duchess or as a woman or as a collaborator, it all put the pieces of a puzzle together to get a job done and benefit the incentives they were done for. The woman obviously knows how to get things done and should be applauded on her successes rather than criticized for it.

This is the kind of thing I do see Meghan (and Harry) doing going into the future to benefit whatever they decide needs attention. It doesn't matter the "background" title or personal attributes but rather the results garnered by the work done that benefits others that is of the main importance.

Meghan most certainly has the power to draw people in to sit up and pay attention and if she can use that for good, more power to her. ?

 

[BaiSoSo]

It is most certainly not the best selling issue! In fact the sep 2016 issue sold more!
And fastest selling? Well it was priced half the regular price, even I considered buying it, but gave up when I saw what awaited inside.
I need to know how many copies were made compared to other sep issues.

No one said she is a monster, but she is over the top to the point of fakeness, and I lived in the US for 6 years I met and worked and lived with Americans.
As for not being crazy, I think she has several issues which she either chooses to ignore or ignorant of. (But that’s another post to a different thread).

I will correct myself because I said best-selling in the history of the magazine (going off memory). However, according to Edward Enninful the editor, it was the fastest-selling issue in the history of the magazine and it sold out in 10 days. And the biggest-selling of the past decade (2019 is in the same decade as 2016) so I will take his word on that since he works there.

 

[wyevale]

In the entirety of 2018 UK Vogue sold 140.000 copies to a population of [approx] 60 Million people..

So not exactly 'Earth shattering' in terms of 'reach'...

 

[poppy7]

In the entirety of 2018 UK Vogue sold 140.000 copies to a population of [approx] 60 Million people..

So not exactly 'Earth shattering' in terms of 'reach'...

American Vogue does not have earth shattering sales either. No magazine does anymore...or newspaper. Diversify or die. Print media is past it.

Kate had been on the cover of Vogue. I guess Meghaned one better.

 

[evolvingdoors]

I will correct myself because I said best-selling in the history of the magazine (going off memory). However, according to Edward Enninful the editor, it was the fastest-selling issue in the history of the magazine and it sold out in 10 days. And the biggest-selling of the past decade (2019 is in the same decade as 2016) so I will take his word on that since he works there.

Fastest selling is not money (and I will hazard a guess it is probably an untrue statement- Vogue has been around for over 100 years!) but it’s a pretty unimportant statement of an over inflated pat on the back that holds no real weight when you dig deeper into the facts!- which most people don’t do.
Which is to be true Meghan speciality.

Questions for you
How many copies were printed compared to past Sep issues? Compared to regular issues of.. say the past three years?- if say only 250k were printed compared to 400k of past Sep issues than yes it can be called fastest selling, because well.. you were printing less issues to begin with (and pricing it much lower than even a regular issue). Will it still be the fastest had it printed 400k? Likely not.

How many copies compared to past Sep issues has it sold (printed and digital)?

How much revenue was actually made compared to past Sep issues? - both from sales and from Ads?

How much revenue was made compared to regular issues?

And the biggest question: how likely it will be that other issues would sale just as much if their price was slashed in half?

And again: it also was not the biggest seller as the Sep 2016 issue sold more copies- I believe over 300k+, therefore generated more revenue- as it was also priced regularly.
I also won’t be surprised if the 100th issue likely sold more issues- but I can’t seem to locate numbers at the moment.


Share holders (and editors too!) don’t care how fast something sold (because that is a number that can be controlled- ie if I only printed two copies of something and both of them sold within two days, I can argue it was the fastest selling things compared to others), but how much money was made,m.
And how many copies were actually sold vs. how many were printed.

 

[Curryong]

Meghan has indeed been involved in charity work since she was very young. I feel the Vogue editor role was great. I was very proud of what she did for Smart Works and the cookbook for the community kitchens. She deserves a big pat on the back for really making a difference in people's lives.

If those who never liked the Sussexes anyway criticise Meghan for her charity work then it's on them not her, IMO.

And, as an Aussie who was born in Britain, I never found the engagement interview or Meghan's behaviour on engagements OTT, but enthusiastic and genuine.