Gender, names, and godparent guessing for Harry and Meghan's first child

[Lumutqueen]

I thought Prince Henry (Harry) was named after Prince Charles's late great uncle Prince Henry of Gloucester, and Prince William named after Prince Henry's late son Prince William of Gloucester. Prince William of Gloucester was Prince Richard of Gloucester's elder brother.

I’m not sure if that is 100% true, but i think what AnnaNotherThing meant was that Henry shares the same name as Henry VIII, rather than naked after.

Let me get this straight. You think that it is a good idea to name the child of a bi-racial woman after someone who was a known racist? And I think the last thing that Harry and Meghan would want is to have their child/children named after an 'American divorcee' connection!

Can we just highlight the fact that there is an Edward currently in the family, and there will be Edwards again. Not everything has to be about race.

 

[jacqui24]

Can we just highlight the fact that there is an Edward currently in the family, and there will be Edwards again. Not everything has to be about race.

I think Terri Terri's objection was to name the baby after Duke of Windsor rather than just the name Edward or David.

Anyways, remember the sailor that picked up Harry at IG? He did an interview with ET. Apparently, what we didn't see is that he touched the royal bump after he hugged Meghan. He, like dad, is predicting a girl.

 

[LauraS3514]

In fact, there are THREE Edwards currently in the Royal Family: HRH The Earl of Wessex, HRH The Duke of Kent, and his grandson Baron Downpatrick.

 

[Countessmeout]

In fact, there are THREE Edwards currently in the Royal Family: HRH The Earl of Wessex, HRH The Duke of Kent, and his grandson Baron Downpatrick.

There is a difference between using a name with bad history vs naming a child for someone with a bad reputation.

The name Edward in itself isn't bad. But choosing the name Edward specifically because of Edward VIII is another matter. The suggestion was made they use the name because both men married an American divorcee. This is not the kind of connection to put on a baby.

The Duke of Kent was named for his uncle who served as his godfather. He was born in the life time of his grandfather, before the whole abdication crisis and issues with Edward. His grandson was named for him. It was the queen who chose to really bring the name back into the fold.

Same could be said for names like Richard. No one would name a kid for Richard III. They would simply overlook that particular history.

 

[jacqui24]

Or Charles for that matter.

 

[Curryong]

I would say though that the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester did name their younger son Richard after the Richard Duke of Gloucester who later became King Richard III. It's quite an unusual name in Royal circles otherwise.

Unless of course it was a family name on the Duchess's side. Perhaps they didn't believe that the Princes in the Tower were murdered by their uncle and wanted to make the point.

 

[wymanda]

Godparents

Jessica Mulroney
Princess Eugenie
Jack Brooksbank
Serena Williams

 

[O-H Anglophile]

Godparents

Jessica Mulroney
Princess Eugenie
Jack Brooksbank
Serena Williams

I’m don’t know that they’d choose both Eugenie and Jack. I know it is not uncommon in non royal circles but I don’t see it here.

We talked about Serena earlier in the thread, friendship wise yes, but since she is a Jehovah’s Witness it is not clear how her religion or the CoE would be with it.

 

[jacqui24]

Godparents

Jessica Mulroney
Princess Eugenie
Jack Brooksbank
Serena Williams

Doubt Jack will be on the list. I can think of a few friends and family that would have a better chance of being picked than him.

 

[Gawin]

I would say though that the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester did name their younger son Richard after the Richard Duke of Gloucester who later became King Richard III. It's quite an unusual name in Royal circles otherwise.

Unless of course it was a family name on the Duchess's side. Perhaps they didn't believe that the Princes in the Tower were murdered by their uncle and wanted to make the point.

Maybe they chose it because they liked it and it was a suitably royal name. For example, Queen Mary suggested they name their oldest son Robert because "Robert of Gloucester sounds nice." The Duke and Duchess of York (later King George VI and Queen Elizabeth) wanted to name their second daughter Ann because they liked it and thought it went well with York. George V vetoed the name and they settled on Margaret instead. Prince Charles wasn't named after Charles I, II, Bonnie Prince Charlie. His name was chosen because his mother liked it. So it seems the BRF doesn't always chose names to honor others with the same name.

 

[Curryong]

Yes, that's true, but the present Duke is an active patron of the Richard III Society and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that one or another of his parents had an interest in Richard III. After all, (Prince) Richard of Gloucester, as he was before his brother's death, has an evocative sound.

 

[Gawin]

Same could be said for names like Richard. No one would name a kid for Richard III. They would simply overlook that particular history.

But some historians believe "that particular history" was rewritten by Tudor propagandists and Richard III wasn't guilty of the crimes he has been accused of. While I don't think the current Richard Duke of Gloucester was named for Richard III, I should point out he is patron of the Richard III Society and attended the re-interment services held at Leicester Cathedral in 2015.

 

[Winnie]

I would just love to see them name their first after the royal grandparents that have made their marriage welcoming: Elizabeth and Philip. No one does use them as first names and I truly believe it would be wonderful. Middle names could incorporate their own parents.

 

[Denville]

In fact, there are THREE Edwards currently in the Royal Family: HRH The Earl of Wessex, HRH The Duke of Kent, and his grandson Baron Downpatrick.

Exactly so I can't see that they will be likely to give the name to anyone else, at present. and certainly not after the D of Windsor, who is harldy likely to be anyone's "favourite uncle" in the RF....

 

[alvinking]

The truth of it is, people like to make up rules about what names Harry and Meghan can use, without anything to support it. The idea that Harry and Meghan are restricted to naming their children after previous kings, or even just previous British royals, doesn’t hold true of you look at the names of other members of the family. After all, Louis, Eugenie, Andrew, and Prince Michael all get their given names from non-British royals.

More like after people that were are part of their kinships, extended or not, British Royal or not,

Louis, after Earl Louis Mountbatten of Burma, Prince Philip's Uncle Dickie
Eugenie, whose full name is Eugenie Victoria Helena, after, Edna Queen of Spain, born Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg, Daughter of Princess Beatrice of the UK, granddaughter of Queen Victoria, and after Princess Helena, another daughter of Queen Victoria
Andrew, After Prince Philip's father, Prince Andrew of Greece and Danemark
Micheal after Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich of Russia, who was one of his relative on his mother side. On a side note, His full name is Michael George Charles Franklin. Why Franklin some may ask, well US President Franlkin Delano Roosevelt was one of his Godfather

 

[Gawin]

More like after people that were are part of their kinships, extended or not, British Royal or not,

Louis, after Earl Louis Mountbatten of Burma, Prince Philip's Uncle Dickie
Eugenie, whose full name is Eugenie Victoria Helena, after, Edna Queen of Spain, born Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg, Daughter of Princess Beatrice of the UK, granddaughter of Queen Victoria, and after Princess Helena, another daughter of Queen Victoria
Andrew, After Prince Philip's father, Prince Andrew of Greece and Danemark
Micheal after Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich of Russia, who was one of his relative on his mother side. On a side note, His full name is Michael George Charles Franklin. Why Franklin some may ask, well US President Franlkin Delano Roosevelt was one of his Godfather

Might be nice to see some Greek or Russian names from Philip's side. Theodora, Nicholas, Alexander, Helen, Natalia, etc.

 

[Somebody]

Third try:

For a girl my guess is Lady Alice Jeanette Frances Mountbatten-Windsor
For a boy: Victor Philip James, Earl of Dumbarton

Jeanette is after Meghan's grandmother and James after her grandmother's father while also a royal name.

 

[Countessmeout]

While Jeanette is lovely I don't think she will over look her mother. They are so close. I'd be shocked not to see Doria.

Thomas is another matter. Another male family name from Meghan's family more likely. Perhaps from her father's side while avoiding Thomas.

 

[King of the Jungle]

More guesses for twins born 9th March:

Margaret Diana Doria and Charles Philip Thomas
Charles Alexander Richard Thomas (cart) and Philippa Frances Ivy Loyce (Filly)
the cart before the filly hahaha.

Godparents:
cousins/nieces and friends.

 

[HereditaryPrincess]

Interesting that there are more votes than expected for twins - is there any history of twins in the Markle or Ragland families?

 

[jacqui24]

Interesting that there are more votes than expected for twins - is there any history of twins in the Markle or Ragland families?

Twins tend to be more frequent in women over a certain age (35).

 

[HereditaryPrincess]

Twins tend to be more frequent in women over a certain age (35).

Ah, that's interesting, I wasn't aware of that (I just presumed twins were only possible if either family had a history of them or if the couple in question conceived via IVF).

 

[Terri Terri]

How can twins be predicted if KP has already stated that they are expecting a baby?

 

[jacqui24]

That would be my question.

 

[acnd08]

How can twins be predicted if KP has already stated that they are expecting a baby?

This has been my thinking all along but there are many who predict twins. I honestly think if she were pregnant with twins that would have been announced just in the event she had to miss engagements or go on leave early. That isn't saying people who are pregnant with twins don't carry to term just fine but not all do. They were pretty transparent about Kate's difficulties due to the fact she was missing things. IMO they'd probably go that same route if Meghan were having twins.

 

[jacqui24]

This has been my thinking all along but there are many who predict twins. I honestly think if she were pregnant with twins that would have been announced just in the event she had to miss engagements or go on leave early. That isn't saying people who are pregnant with twins don't carry to term just fine but not all do. They were pretty transparent about Kate's difficulties due to the fact she was missing things. IMO they'd probably go that same route if Meghan were having twins.

Not that I think she'll have twins, but they wouldn't announce that just for something that could potentially happen months down the line. In fact, we don't even have the month of her due date yet. Usually that's announced later. All we know is Spring. They usually draw back on engagements a few weeks before due date. They aren't going to put it that close. And if somehow she goes into labor even before that, I'm sure everyone would understand if she had to cancel last minute. Regardless of one or two babies.

 

[acnd08]

Not that I think she'll have twins, but they wouldn't announce that just for something that could potentially happen months down the line. In fact, we don't even have the month of her due date yet. Usually that's announced later. All we know is Spring. They usually draw back on engagements a few weeks before due date. They aren't going to put it that close. And if somehow she goes into labor even before that, I'm sure everyone would understand if she had to cancel last minute. Regardless of one or two babies.

Who knows!

With that said, I'm still of the belief it's just one little one in there. I, personally, don't see the big deal in telling it if she were having twins. ?

 

[Denville]

Who knows!

With that said, I'm still of the belief it's just one little one in there. I, personally, don't see the big deal in telling it if she were having twins. ?

I should say that if she were having twins, they would delay the anouncment. I don't really see why this idea has cropped up anyway..

 

[Tatiana Maria]

More like after people that were are part of their kinships, extended or not, British Royal or not,

Louis, after Earl Louis Mountbatten of Burma, Prince Philip's Uncle Dickie
Eugenie, whose full name is Eugenie Victoria Helena, after, Edna Queen of Spain, born Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg, Daughter of Princess Beatrice of the UK, granddaughter of Queen Victoria, and after Princess Helena, another daughter of Queen Victoria
[...]

Indeed, and although they did not hold British royal titles, Louis Mountbatten and Princess Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg were British subjects at birth and included as members of the British royal family as child/grandchild of a princess of the United Kingdom, much like Peter Phillips and his daughters. For the marriage of Victoria Eugenie with the King of Spain, the marriage treaty was made between the governments of Britain and Spain.

 

[acnd08]

I should say that if she were having twins, they would delay the anouncment. I don't really see why this idea has cropped up anyway..

Agreed! I mean, to each their own by all means, but I am not exactly sure what sparked the certainty in so many people. I've seen the discussion in several other places too.