Genealogy of HRH the Duchess of Cambridge

[cepe]

When I read this, my immediate reaction was "Here we go, anything to prove we do not have a "commoner" royal.

So William and Catherine are 15th cousins. So what?

And I also started out thinking that at least they are now mentioning the paternal side of the family, rather than maternal. But I now think it might also be just another way of being negative about Carole.

There is something really vicious in the way that the press in the UK have attacked Carole - as if Michael had no say in anything. Ultimately that is an attack on both.

Instead what we really have is a close-knot family, who love and trust each other - and the UK media acts like a jealous child. Pathetic.

[Dman]

Videos:
The Duchess Of Cambridge’s Ancestors Discovered On Film:
The Duchess of Cambridge

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...Anzac-day.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...e-meeting.html

[AdmirerUS]

Well, that was obvious. Her great, great, great uncle wore his coat shorter than the other gentlemen did. It runs in the family.

[Dman]

I just think it's amazing that there's actual video of some of Catherine's ancestors.

[Frelinghighness]

thank you for posting these. They are just wonderful, the oldest one didn't load for me.
The crowds in the Princess mary one were very rambunctious.

[QueenElizabeth2Fan]

Oh okay. I may be able to help with your Cambridge ancestry project. What information on their family trees do you have so far?
I have heard that Catherine, thus, is descended from George Washington--I know for a fact that she is this related to one of my favorite actresses of all time. I love that :)
However, because of the above relationship, this makes her a very, very distantly removed cousin of (favorite actresses of mine) Bette Davis and Ginger Rogers. More favorite tidbits.
I've also heard that she is also related to the Fairfaxes of Virginia, George Washington's native family. Thus, William and herself are also related through that connection.

[Ish]

I haven't done much on Catherine's side yet, but I've got William's side pretty much worked out. I'm just going over it all again and then I'll be turning more to Catherine. Once I'm happy with it all I'll probably post a link to it in the British genealogy thread.

Catherine's not descended from George Washington, but they do allegedly have a common ancestor in Sir William Gascoigne and his wife, Lady Margaret Percy. Here's an article on it from the DM: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-research.html

[SLV]

The common ancestor of both the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, I made today.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...vN2wzNWc#gid=6

I used the website The Ancestry Of H.R.H. Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge which was posted by someone here on a different thread. Thank you for that!

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Also, the common ancestors of Diana, Camilla and Sarah.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...vN2wzNWc#gid=4

[Warren]

The Telegraph 26 April 2014

Forgotten film shows Duchess's great-great-grandfather inspecting troops as Royal couple mark Anzac Day

Newly rediscovered footage reveals the Duchess of Cambridge's great-great-grandfather inspecting long lines of troops in Leeds in 1915, just as the Royal couple had a similar engagement at the national Anzac Day ceremony at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra. Forgotten footage shot by British Pathé in 1915 reveals the Duchess of Cambridge’s great-great-grandfather inspecting long lines of troops in Leeds. Prince William and the Duchess of Cambridge joined VC winners and other dignitaries to commemorate Anzac Day at the end of their tour Down Under, paying their respects to all Australian and New Zealand servicemen and women who gave their lives in wars and conflicts.

The scenes were echoed by newly-rediscovered footage almost a century old from British Pathé. In the clip the Lord Mayor of Leeds, Sir Charles Lupton (the great-great-great-uncle of the Duchess of Cambridge), can be seen paying a visit to the Leeds Pals Battalion in a camp near Colsterdale in the Yorkshire Dales. Thanks to records made by the cameraman on the day we know that in the entourage behind him are his three brothers Hugh, Arthur and Francis M. Lupton - all of whom were Aldermen of the City of Leeds at the time. Francis M. Lupton is the Duchess' Great-Great Grandfather and would tragically later lose all three of his sons, Lionel, Francis and Maurice, in World War One.

The footage emerged after British Pathé, the newsreel maker which documented all walks of life on video during the 20th Century, uploaded its entire collection of moving images to YouTube this month. That it showed the previously unknown meetings was discovered by Australian historian Michael Reed.

Earlier this week other footage emerged which revealed the moment that Prince William's grandfather and Kate Middleton's grandfather met as pilot and co-pilot in South America in the 1960s.

Prince Philip was an accomplished pilot, having first taken lessons in 1952, and elected to fly many of the journeys during the tour himself with Peter Middleton - Kate Middleton's grandfather - as co-pilot. Middleton was a Mosquito fighter-bomber pilot during the Second World War, tasked with nudging German rockets heading for London off course. He passed away in 2010 at the age of 90 and both Kate and Prince William attended his funeral.

Thank you to Ted for drawing this article to our attention.

[Ish]

Kate's become somewhat of a genealogical focal point in recent years, with people determined to find her royal ancestors. It's pretty much a fact that if you're of British descent you're going to end up with a royal ancestor at some point, it's just a matter of being able to make all the connections. Actually, I'm going to amend that statement; it's pretty much a fact that if you're of European descent then you're going to end up with royal European ancestors at some point, you just have to make the connections.

I've noted two lines for Catherine's family, one for the Middletons and one for the Goldsmiths, although both are debated in their validity. There are other alleged lines, but they seem to be more discredited so I didn't include them.

The Middleton line was first published by William Addams Reitwiesner in 2011 and goes as follows:

1. Michael Middleton
2. Peter Middleton
3. Olive Lupton
4. Francis Lupton
5. Frances Greenhow
6. Elizabeth Martineau
7. Thomas Martineau
8. Sarah Meadows
9. Philip Meadows
10. Sarah Fairfax
11. Benjamin Fairfax
12. Benjamin Fairfax
13. John Fairfax
14. William Fairfax
15. Anne Gascoigne
16. Sir William Gascoigne
17. Joan Neville
18. John Neville
19. Mary Ferrers
20. Joan Beaufort
21. John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster
22. Edward III

The Goldsmith line was first put forward by Christopher Challender Child, then later by Patrick Cracroft-Brennan and Anthony Adolph, and it goes as follows:

1. Carole Goldsmith
2. Dorothy Harrison
3. Thomas Harrison
4. John Harrison
5. Jane Liddell
6. Anthony Liddell
7. Jane Hardy
8. Jane Conyers
9. Sir Thomas Conyers, 9th Baronet
10. Sir Ralph Conyers, 5th Baronet
11. John Conyers
12. John Conyers
13. John Conyers, 1st Baronet
14. Christopher Conyers of Horden
15. Isabel Lumley
16. Roger Lumley
17. Elizabeth FitzRoy
18. Edward IV

John Conyers, 1st Baronet's mother is also descended from Elizabeth FitzRoy:

1. John Conyers, 1st Baronet
2. Anne Hedworth
3. John Hedworth
4. Anne Hilton
5. Sybil Lumley
6. Elizabeth FitzRoy

[cepe]

Where can I get a copy of Cahterine's current family tree including cousins etc? Thanks

[AdmirerUS]

Originally Posted by cepe

Where can I get a copy of Cahterine's current family tree including cousins etc? Thanks

Cepe - if anyone would know this it would be Claudia Joseph. You might be able to contact her through the DM. Ick. I know.

[Ish]

My suggestions would be to contact Darryl Lundy at The Peerage - he might not know himself, but if he doesn't he could potentially put you on the right path.

You could also check out Ancestry.com, but their records of living people tend to be a bit closed (you might not be able to find names of them, but how many there are and what gender they are).

[cepe]

thanks to both Ish and AdmireUs. appreciate the response

[Warren]

The Telegraph

Kate’s family tree
The late Diana, Princess of Wales was distantly related to Sir Winston Churchill. Now it would appear that the Duchess of Cambridge can claim a link to another former British prime minister, Neville Chamberlain.

The man who pursued a policy of appeasement with Adolf Hitler was scarcely one of the nation’s most revered leaders, but Michael Reed, of Hallam College, Melbourne, has discovered that Prince William’s wife has a family tree that just about includes him. “Kate’s great-great- grandfather was Francis Martineau Lupton, a politician himself, and his first cousin was the Birmingham lord mayor Sir Thomas Martineau, a friend of Queen Victoria. Sir Thomas’s nephew was Neville Chamberlain,” Reed explains.

It was not so surprising that appeasement was attractive to members of that generation. “Sadly, Francis Martineau’s son, Lionel, was one of many in Kate’s family killed in the First World War,” he adds.

Sunday Express

Kate Middleton is a Brummie and related to a former Prime Minister

The Duchess of Cambridge is descended from a former British Prime Minister according to new research.Far from being a commoner, the royal is actually related to Neville Chamberlain, who led the nation at the outbreak of the Second World War.The astonishing revelation also means that the former Kate Middleton is also really a Brummie.

Australian history teacher Michael Reed discovered the 32-year-old is descended from two of Birmingham's most prestigious families - the Chamberlains and the Martineaus.

The Chamberlain clan spawned visionary city leader Joseph and his son Neville, Prime Minister at the outbreak of the Second World War. They are remembered in the city centre square dedicated to Joseph Chamberlain.
The Martineaus were another political dynasty whose numbers included five successive generations of mayors or lord mayors of Birmingham.

Mr Reed, of Hallam College, Melbourne, has been investigating Kate's roots since she married Prince William in 2011. He is set to present his research at a conference at Birmingham's Newman University on July 4 and 5 to mark the centenary of Joseph Chamberlain's death. He said: 'Kate's great great grandfather was Francis Martineau Lupton, a politician himself, and his first cousin was Birmingham Mayor Sir Thomas Martineau, a friend of Queen Victoria. 'Sir Thomas's nephew was Neville Chamberlain.'

As Hitler discovered when he met Neville in 1938, Kate's political relatives were strongly anti-war - hence his policy of appeasement. 'Sadly Francis Martineau Lupton's son, Lionel Martineau, was one of many in Kate's family killed in the First World War.'

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[SLV]

There are several posts about her ancestors in the thread about the ancestors of the British royals too.

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[Warren]

Noted.
thanks

[sancakli70]

Has she an irish roots?

[Warren]

The Telegraph

Duchess of Cambridge is related to Beatrix Potter

The Duchess of Cambridge is related to Beatrix Potter, who once gave the Middleton family her own original hand-painted illustrations

It may not be so surprising if the Duchess of Cambridge has made Peter Rabbit a theme of the celebrations to mark Prince George’s first birthday today.Kate is related to the amiable mammal’s creator, Beatrix Potter, who had given the Middleton family her own original hand-painted illustrations.

Kate’s great-great-great uncle was the Leeds University pro-chancellor Dr Arthur Lupton, whose brother-in-law was Lord Ashton, 1st Baron Ashton of Hyde. Baron Ashton was the first cousin of Beatrix. “Beatrix had given the Middleton family a number of her own drawings, including four for Kate’s blood cousins, sisters Elinor and Elizabeth – who were the daughters of Dr Lupton,” says the art historian Michael Reed. “These four drawings were auctioned in 2006 and sold for £41,500.”

Reed says the associations go further still. Beatrix’s father, Rupert Potter, had been taught at Manchester College by Kate’s ancestor, Dr James Martineau, who was well acquainted with Queen Victoria. Beatrix lived in the Lake District, where Kate’s grandfather, Peter Middleton, had regularly holidayed as a youth. It was in the Lake District in the summer of 1936 that Peter’s mother Olive Lupton was rushed to hospital with peritonitis, dying on September 27, aged only 55, leaving behind a large trust fund for her descendants.

The snow-covered peaks featured on the Middleton family crest represent the Lake District and are perhaps also a reminder of one-year old Prince George’s famous literary relative.

[Duc_et_Pair]

It is interesting that people stress royals should follow their heart etc. etc. but when they have found a partner, really all efforts are done to trace any blue blood somewhere...