Monarchy and Restoration; Rival Families and Claimants

[Lenora]

Originally Posted by Russophile

Just curious, how do you know this?
I think Marie-Christine is motivated enough to MAKE it work. And besides, they could change the Pauline law and let Ella inherit. However, Russo is just putting angels on top of pin heads here. . . .

Very interesting idea,I remember one Russian royal blog considered him inappropriate ,but like the idea of Gabriella to marry a Romanov descendant and thus all the conflicts are solved.Though by now these suggestions are very hypothetical

[nascarlucy]

Interesting reading. No doubt if Russia attempted to restore the monarchy, there are two factions that claim they are the ones to inherit the throne. They will be fighting over this, I'm sure. It will not be a smooth transition.

[ThePrincessRoyal]

I wonder if the Russian people would want to restore the monarchy... I knew there would be no smooth transition because there are so many different claims to the throne. It would be interesting though to see how the "winner" would be perceived worldwide!

[Al_bina]

Originally Posted by Lenora

Very interesting idea,I remember one Russian royal blog considered him inappropriate ,but like the idea of Gabriella to marry a Romanov descendant and thus all the conflicts are solved.Though by now these suggestions are very hypothetical

Grand Duke Georgi and Lady Gabriella are unlikely to match well. Are there any other eligible Romanovs?

[Lenora]

Originally Posted by Al_bina

Grand Duke Georgi and Lady Gabriella are unlikely to match well. Are there any other eligible Romanovs?

I think there are some other Romanov male descendants of appropriate age

[Kasumi]

Originally Posted by ThePrincessRoyal

I wonder if the Russian people would want to restore the monarchy...

No, they do not want to restore it according to the recent polls.

... It would be interesting though to see how the "winner" would be perceived worldwide!

I beg your pardon, it's neither beauty contest nor sports competition.

[NotAPretender]

I'm headed over to Moscow in early February, for business. I'll ask the business people what they think of a "restoration," and of the current pretenders.

[ThePrincessRoyal]

Originally Posted by Kasumi

No, they do not want to restore it according to the recent polls.

I beg your pardon, it's neither beauty contest nor sports competition.

I never meant it to sound that way, what I meant by that was how the rest of the monarchs/heads of state/masses of people/etc... would perceive them. Would the world want that, I know 80% of the people in France wish they could restore their monarchy. It would be interesting to see how the masses of people worldwide would welcome whomever had the rightful claim to the throne.

[Lenora]

Originally Posted by Kasumi

No, they do not want to restore it according to the recent polls.

I beg your pardon, it's neither beauty contest nor sports competition.

I am from Russia and I know actually just a few people participated at polls.Of course I could not speak from the part of all nation,but I could affirm precisely that most of people are neither Against nor Pro.Most of them are simply INDIFFERENT and badly informed ,some of people(mainly old) still dream of Communist Paradise.
I think if the Government decides to organize a referendum then it will take place.By now there is a lot of work to do in this field.
The Russian Orthodox Church is mainly for the monarchy restauration and there were predictions that monarchy would return one day in Russia.

[Vasillisos Markos]

Just like the Fatima prophecy foresaw the fall of communism, I wonder if there are similar predictions by religious personas that the monarchy would return?

[Lenora]

Originally Posted by Vasillisos Markos

Just like the Fatima prophecy foresaw the fall of communism, I wonder if there are similar predictions by religious personas that the monarchy would return?

Yes,the Great Russian Saint Seraphim of Sarov said that Tzar would return to reign in Russia.The people understand this as something available for our days as he predicted difficult times for Russia and monarchy,but that after then the monarchy system ill be the one till the end of Earth

[reginalix]

Originally Posted by ThePrincessRoyal

I never meant it to sound that way, what I meant by that was how the rest of the monarchs/heads of state/masses of people/etc... would perceive them. Would the world want that, I know 80% of the people in France wish they could restore their monarchy. It would be interesting to see how the masses of people worldwide would welcome whomever had the rightful claim to the throne.

It’s the best joke I’ve heard!
In french and european elections, Alliance Royale Party made less than 1%.
Even in Russia, monarchists are stronger.

[ThePrincessRoyal]

Originally Posted by reginalix

It’s the best joke I’ve heard!
In french and european elections, Alliance Royale Party made less than 1%.
Even in Russia, monarchists are stronger.

Really? The poll was supposedly taken in 2009, I was taking a French history class and that's what my professor told me... it is funny if it's not true actually! I'll have to tell my school that they are failing in more ways than one! Now back on topic....

[reginalix]

Originally Posted by ThePrincessRoyal

Really? The poll was supposedly taken in 2009, I was taking a French history class and that's what my professor told me... it is funny if it's not true actually! I'll have to tell my school that they are failing in more ways than one! Now back on topic....

Maybe your teacher fell in love with Versailles or a french royal pretendant
In fact there is 5 % or 6 % of persons favorable to a parliamentary monarchy (and 0, 02 % for an absolute monarchy) but among them few intend to make a commitment in a restoration (so from 0, 0025 % to 0,55 % noticed in the elections in France - for french or european parliaments- in the various french regions for the Royal Alliance).

Back in topic.
Before choosing a new Czar or Czarina, Russia needs a strong and respected constitution, a good balance between provinces and federal state, a not corrupt administration, clever politicians, an economy with healthy bases...
Later we can have the cherry on the cake, a monarch.

[Kasumi]

Originally Posted by Vasillisos Markos

...I wonder if there are similar predictions by religious personas that the monarchy would return?

Actually, Grigori Rasputin had predicted that if any of the Czar's relatives took part in Rasputin's murder, the monarchy in Russia would be doomed, and the immediate Romanovs' family (the Czar himself, the Czarina and their children) would live for less then two years.

Originally Posted by Lenora

I am from Russia...

So am I.

The Russian Orthodox Church is mainly for the monarchy restauration ...

We have a secular state according to the Constitution. And we have all the religious groups and nations equal. Were the muslims, judaists, buddhists asked about the 'restoration'? Apparently not.

[Russophile]

Originally Posted by Kasumi

Actually, Grigori Rasputin had predicted that if any of the Czar's relatives took part in Rasputin's murder, the monarchy in Russia would be doomed, and the immediate Romanovs' family (the Czar himself, the Czarina and their children) would live for less then two years.

However! How much of that was Rasputin actually forecasting with his so-called powers, or how much of it was a threat directed at the IF to leave him alone to do as he wished as he knew he was not popular with the Imperial Family outside of N & A.

[Lenora]

Originally Posted by Russophile

However! How much of that was Rasputin actually forecasting with his so-called powers, or how much of it was a threat directed at the IF to leave him alone to do as he wished as he knew he was not popular with the Imperial Family outside of N & A.

I agree with you.Rasputin had some powers,but he wasn't the monk he claimed to be.The Tzar's sister Olga couldn't stand him,saying that "the brother Nicholas was under the influence of Tzarina Alexandra".Of course we may understand Alexandra's feelings when she wanted to see her unique son Alexei recovered from hemophilia.But before the birth of a son Tzarina admitted to the Court the French fortuneteller and healer,"Phillip" who took some money from her by assuring that he would help the royal couple to have a son.Tzarina had a degree in Philosophy and believed in Mysticism.Besides all,Rasputin took a lot of money from rich credible women and assured his 2 daughters.

[COUNTESS]

Some of these statistics are not staistics, but some made up numbers foisted upon some unaware peole. I dobut that 80% of the French wants a monarchy. nd, who to restore in Russia. Lackluster wannabes. Please, you can do much better than that.

[Mermaid1962]

I was browsing on a Russian Orthodox site within the last few weeks, and I noticed how many prophecies by Orthodox saints and clergy were listed. It seems to be an important part of the Church, at least that was the impression I have.

Originally Posted by Lenora

Yes,the Great Russian Saint Seraphim of Sarov said that Tzar would return to reign in Russia.The people understand this as something available for our days as he predicted difficult times for Russia and monarchy,but that after then the monarchy system ill be the one till the end of Earth

[ThePrincessRoyal]

So how many people/families exactly claim to be heirs to the Russian throne? Names and facts please!!