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06-10-2017, 01:56 AM
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It'll never be over. Diana was a fascinating person during her lifetime and that has carried on into the 20 years following her death. She was a very complex, unique individual that impacted a lot of lives and people are still wanting to learn about her.
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It's a bit more than that.  We know a great deal more about what was actually going on at key points. From several years ago you can read posts on this very site that argued 'facts' that have since come tumbling down. The merest suggestion back then that Diana was 'unstable', or 'troubled', or actually lied, were viewed as smears, and now we know differently.
That's why I answered the above post in detail because after reading all the stuff across the years (in one go) you get a sense of the evolution of the 'facts' and the 'fiction'. It's a pretty stark evolution. It merits correcting, I think, because so much animus went into blowing up the bubbles in the first place. And still does to some extent.
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06-10-2017, 02:55 AM
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It is like dragging old cows out of the moat. Yesterday's elections saw a firm boost for Labour, mainly thanks to the youth and first time voters. Many of these Corbynistas were not even born in Diana's lifetime. And remember, it is not out of love that the Daily Mail or publishers exploit Diana. Every controverse generates clicks. Every click is exposure. And exposure is money. The business model of Rupert Murdoch in short.
At the same time we see that the media have lost grip on the public. The Murdoch papers have slashed, witch hunted, axed, poisoned Corbyn and Labour but analysts concluded that the younger generation shared more from blogs and podcasts than from the regular media, leaving the Daily Mail and The Sun totally bewildered. With other words, in another 20 years Diana will be even more history and only 50+ olds will then have really experienced Diana's life. The DM of 2037 still pumping up Diana for clicks seems unlikely to me.
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06-10-2017, 03:38 AM
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At the same time we see that the media have lost grip on the public. The Murdoch papers have slashed, witch hunted, axed, poisoned Corbyn and Labour but analysts concluded that the younger generation shared more from blogs and podcasts than from the regular media, leaving the Daily Mail and The Sun totally bewildered. With other words, in another 20 years Diana will be even more history and only 50+ olds will then have really experienced Diana's life. The DM of 2037 still pumping up Diana for clicks seems unlikely to me.
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Interesting.
And as for the last bolded sentence, I do think that when one reads all about Diana 'in one sitting' (in a sense, though it took me close to a year to so do), I think one gets a different experience than if one was living through the events in 'real time'.
One example is the Morton book: what a firestorm that book fomented, and what a bewildering crash-and-burn of 'propriety' it initiated. And when one knows whose hand was guiding the whole endeavor, and how complicated and clever it's execution was, then watch the videos of Diana during that time, it's chilling. It's then you get real insight into the person.
One other aspect is Diana's public demeanor during the time everyone (she) states she was in catastrophic despair over her marriage, yet it is never borne out if you look at the videos and pictures from that time. Quite the reverse. Except for nervous moments very early in the marriage, she is radiant. Then of course one knows (with that long lens of history) that she was engaged in a long-term, stable relationship (her longest relationship, in fact, longer than her actual time of intimacy with her husband) that clearly gave her great joy (by her own words). (It's Charles who manifests outwardly as headed for the scrap heap, but not one peep out of him until much, much later, and even then it's pretty tame in comparison to Diana's laments).
The whole thing telescopes in a way that the living through the day-by-day and week-by-week revelations can never achieve. I think some are caught forever in that slow trek across the Himalayas of Diana's parsed out drama. Their initial impressions remain as vivid today as when they first heard the spin, no matter that we know a great deal more of the layers living in those moments back then.
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09-01-2018, 04:10 AM
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That's a terrific picture of Diana from her close friend Rosa Monkton. Few people knew her better, and it's true that her zest for life and love of a joke isn't celebrated very much. This is a sad time of the year for those who fondly remember Diana and it's good to see that she is not forgotten twenty one years on.
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09-01-2018, 10:20 PM
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Your right what a lovely photo. I can’t believe I have never seen it before.
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09-03-2018, 09:00 AM
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The panel of 'Loose Women', a British morning show, remember where they were and how they felt when they heard the news that Diana had died.
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09-05-2018, 11:45 PM
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Thank you Curryong for posting
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09-05-2018, 11:50 PM
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You're welcome, Royal Rob. I remembered her on the day of her death and still miss her, and I'm sure many people feel the same.
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09-06-2018, 01:48 AM
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You're welcome, Royal Rob. I remembered her on the day of her death and still miss her, and I'm sure many people feel the same.
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I still remember everything about that day. My daughter and I crying not being able to believe she was gone
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09-06-2018, 01:53 AM
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Yes, I felt that way too. And, like the women in the clip above, the primary feelings were huge disbelief and shock among those I observed in that week.
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02-02-2019, 08:49 PM
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The Late Diana, Princess of Wales News Thread 8: June 2008-
Paul Burrell has revealed (just now on C5) so much more about his motivation around his service for Diana Princess of Wales....like sleeping with her clothes & his deep emotional attachment to three people in his first & second marriages!
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02-05-2019, 06:19 PM
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What was the name of the program?
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