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Old 07-04-2016, 12:57 AM
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Hearing about how Diana was too dependent on William especially, I often think she would be a very difficult mother in law, similar to Marie Barone from Everybody Loves Raymond.

Really !!!!! Some silly things sure are said about Diana


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Old 07-04-2016, 01:32 AM
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I've never heard that Diana was "too dependent" on William - I have heard that William was quite protective of his mother, but how that translates into her dependence upon him and the assumption that she would one day become be a difficult mother-in-law is beyond me.
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Old 07-04-2016, 03:28 AM
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Hearing about how Diana was too dependent on William especially, I often think she would be a very difficult mother in law, similar to Marie Barone from Everybody Loves Raymond.
How could Diana be too dependent on William? He was still an adolescent boy when she died.
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Old 07-04-2016, 11:34 AM
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Diana allegedly had a habit of sharing her troubles through out the War of the Wales with her eldest son. If this is true then IMO William was too young to be in that role.

As for being a difficult mother-in-law, I believe we will never know if that prediction would have come true.
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Old 07-04-2016, 12:39 PM
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There's so many years between her unfortunate death and her son's engagement/marriage that loads could have happened in these years had she not had the accident and imo it's impossible to judge what kind of mother-in-law she would have been at the time W&K got together

But this is hardly "news", so a bit of a stretch in a thread with this name
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Old 07-04-2016, 02:16 PM
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I've never heard that Diana was "too dependent" on William - I have heard that William was quite protective of his mother, but how that translates into her dependence upon him and the assumption that she would one day become be a difficult mother-in-law is beyond me.
I think she did lean on him a bit, and should have not done so. But older children, where a mother is left alone like that, often end up being "leaned on!". It happens.
She might have been a possessive mother in law but who could say? She might have had other interests by the time Will was getting married.. I think this is just a bashing Diana stick to say this...
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Old 07-04-2016, 04:06 PM
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Diana allegedly had a habit of sharing her troubles through out the War of the Wales with her eldest son. If this is true then IMO William was too young to be in that role.

As for being a difficult mother-in-law, I believe we will never know if that prediction would have come true.
Yes apparently she also asked his opinion on her men and talked to him about her difficulties during the war, I also recall hearing that she would frequently fire he'd. Children's nannies sh . She thought they were getting to close to them....but I don't know if that is true because I just read that one of their nannies was with them for almost a decade.
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Old 07-05-2016, 04:34 PM
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She didn't fire his nannies.. she fired ONE, partly because she was somewhat jealous because she hated being away from him, when he was little and I think it hurt her to see him being so close to someone else. But there were other issues.. I think she and the nanny disagreed over discipline, and there were other things as well.. I don't think she exactly fired her - it was Barbara barnes.. but she wanted her to move on.. However as I recall Ms Barnes had been around for some years, and I don't believe that Will was traumatised by this.. He's always remained fond of his nannies and in touch with htem. Seems like while I am wiling to agree that Di did some stupid and selfish things.. so many people seem to be just always ready to criticise her.
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Twenty-five years ago. It doesn't seem possible.
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Old 08-24-2016, 08:24 PM
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Love these pictures. Loved that outfit. She was so elegant and regal wasn't she? And so natural and down to earth at the same time.
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Old 08-24-2016, 08:29 PM
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She was indeed. Diana was one of a kind. The people around on that day can probably still remember it and her with fondness.
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Old 08-24-2016, 08:32 PM
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Yes. You don't forget encounters like that.
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Old 08-27-2016, 12:46 AM
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This is a US poll, but people voted Diana the greatest fashion influence of the last 100 years plus. Some interesting other choices!

Princess Diana is named the biggest style inspiration of all time | Daily Mail Online
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Old 08-27-2016, 07:28 AM
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I think it is no wonder that Diana is still on the top. She did influnce people in many aspects of life, as fashion influence and trend is not only about fashion. Diana was a huge phenomenon herself, and as such, fashion trender could be no other than her imo.
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Old 08-27-2016, 05:51 PM
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Yes, I agree. What she wore set trends, from the frilled collars and lambswool sweaters of the Lady Diana days to the simple suits and shift dressed of the 90s. I well remember the flat pumps, the white and cream blouses with different decorations at the neck (ties, cravats, etc.), the dirndl skirts with the short jackets, gradually morphing into the tailored suits and simpler dresses. Hats came back into style for awhile, as did envelope handbags and pearls. Diana's effect on bridal fashion is still in effect, as evidenced in how many brides now wear a tiara, whether real or rhinestone. I think that Diana's various outfits and her metamorphases will be part of fashion and social history for some time to come. Her clothes reflected what was going on in her life, and what a life!
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Old 08-27-2016, 06:05 PM
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yes she made very few dressing mistakes... I loved most of her cltothes.
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Old 08-27-2016, 07:09 PM
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And, because she was unusually tall, she could wear things most mortals couldn't.
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Old 08-27-2016, 07:17 PM
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Diana had the ideal body for wearing clothing really, being tall and slender, but she also had a good eye for what suited her. She was happy to take guidance and advice early on but later wasn't afraid to take risks in her fashion choices. I think that's what I liked best about her sense of style.
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Old 08-27-2016, 07:21 PM
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Diana is simply more recent than Coco Chanel, who had more influence on fashion than Diana or Jackie K, who had more style in her little finger than Diana had in her entire body. She was also way, way more stylish than those from the decades after her death.

Diana really came into her own later in her life when she wore some fabulous and really stylish clothes. Some of her choices at the start of her marriage or during her engagement (ruffled collars, knickerbockers, her wedding dress) were awful. Once she was married, her official wardrobe was much too old for her. That really isn't surprising given that she was finding her own identity in every respect and possibly relying too much on the advice of others who were telling her what a Princess should wear. Once she found her own identity and cut out the frills and ruffles, she could knock it out of the park (the up-yours dress, the way she dressed for the Testino photo shoot for example).

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Old 08-28-2016, 01:59 AM
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I've never seen antytign very great about Jackie Kennedy's clothes personally. they just seem dull. Of course Diana was going to wear "clothes that were too old for her" at first, because she had just joined the RF and was trying to work out what she should wear and their taste is naturally conservative.
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