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03-21-2007, 08:27 AM
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Al Fayed seeks Princess Di inquiry papers
Lawyers for Mohamed al Fayed asked a coroner Wednesday to order the Metropolitan Police to hand over all documents and interviews from the force's three-year investigation into the deaths of his son Dodi Fayed and Princess Diana.
Al Fayed seeks Princess Di inquiry papers - Yahoo! News
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03-21-2007, 09:08 AM
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Al Fayed seeks Princess Di inquiry papers
Lawyers for Mohamed al Fayed asked a coroner Wednesday to order the Metropolitan Police to hand over all documents and interviews from the force's three-year investigation into the deaths of his son Dodi Fayed and Princess Diana.
Al Fayed seeks Princess Di inquiry papers - Yahoo! News
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That seems like a reasonable wish, IMHO - it's always better to review the material by oneself and one's legal advisors. Here in Germany it is standard procedure that your lawyer asks to be shown all documents including the transcripts of all police interrogations etc. Maybe that even puits an end to his suspicions.
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03-21-2007, 04:33 PM
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That seems like a reasonable wish, IMHO - it's always better to review the material by oneself and one's legal advisors.
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The trouble is, the reason he really wants access to all the files, is to find out what Charles and the boys said in their statements. He also probably wants to check that all of his employees said exactly what it was suggested they said. 
Fayed lawyers ask to see Charles' notes
Lawyers for Mohamed Fayed today sought access to notes from an interview with Prince Charles in connection with the death of Diana, Princess of Wales, which they suggested police had failed to disclose.
Fayed lawyers ask to see Charles' notes | Uk News | News | Telegraph
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03-21-2007, 07:55 PM
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Oh I see. So she was murdered but we'll never know because the evidence has been gotten rid of? Sounds like, "Only the Messiah would deny his true divinity" to me.
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Please! we dont want to rile up the religious again!
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03-22-2007, 01:39 AM
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Well, everyone knows she was "murdered" right? (sarcasm). It must have been the unseen puppeteers who steer the monarchy down a profitable course because Prince Philip is sure to have some MI6 secret agents plotting out his dirty work. Because the MI6 and the "Establishment" don't have anything better to do than eavesdrop on Diana and Dodi's pillow talk.
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03-22-2007, 01:33 PM
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On a serious note about the inquest, and the paget report, what did everyone think about it? I read the overview and am still prodding through the 800-some odd pages of the full report that the Daily Mail published. I also looked up Lord Stevens to get some idea of who is he, where he's coming from, and I am very impressed. I think he was an excellent choice, whoever made the choice, to have him do this report. I was surprised to see how "non-establishment" he is. His history as a detective shows that he is unafraid of pointing fingers at organizations as long as the evidence, rather than supposition, does the pointing. I hope I'm not being naive, but can't help feeling real respect for the way he carried out this investigation.
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03-22-2007, 03:55 PM
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The inquest report provided alot unanswered questions I had about the crash. It explained why the ambulance chose to go to Pitié-Salpêtrière Hospital which I thought was very strange but now I understand why. The report was very informative.
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03-22-2007, 05:59 PM
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The inquest report provided alot unanswered questions I had about the crash. It explained why the ambulance chose to go to Pitié-Salpêtrière Hospital which I thought was very strange but now I understand why. The report was very informative.
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Yes, the report is totally thorough. I think Lord Stevens and his team truly did what they said was their intention: the close the book on it. But I don't think the conspiracy theorists will ever be satisfied. To them, I think it's impossible to let it go because she symbolized for them the beautiful, troubled fairy princess who was such a "threat" to "the foundation of the monarchy". I have no doubt that she offended many of the old guard, provoking some to worry that she had become a 'loose cannon' but as Stevens pointed out in the overview, for such an assasination to be possible there must be such elaborate, organized operations underway, and the time and last-minute changes going on that night would have rendered any such plot to fail.
I wasn't even going to read the report at first because I was already convinced long ago that there was nothing conspiratorial going on, but I know someone who insists on the idea it was an assasination, so I started out just looking for counter-allegations. Sadly, they fall on deaf ears and if I hear one more time that the "evil Establishment" wanted her dead because her boyfriend was of Islamic persuasion, "she was pregnant with his child", my head is going to start spinning 90mph and shooting out sparks of infuriation.
To be fair, I don't deny that there are several strange elements about the accident and the investigations since. But after reading many of your posts in this thread, I am confirmed in my belief that Diana and Fayed only got in the car with Henri Paul driving because they were being careless. I loved Diana as much as anyone, but remember, before they left the hotel the last time, she had had some champagne, and Dodi too, and I think that combined with an exhausting day of jewelry shopping, dinner, and evading the paparazzi made them careless, maybe a bit cavalier about things.
So maybe they thought, oh maybe he's tipsy, but he can drive, he'll be fine.
If they had just let Trevor Rees-Jones drive the car, they might be alive today.
Also, the Fiat is an anomoly. Stevens' theory was perfectly sensical, but the lack of conclusiveness won't satisfy the conspiracy theorists.
Which begs the mention of another anomoly of this case: That the conspiracy theorists cite suppositions and the most annoying "if's" and "maybe" idea, but expect nothing less than absolute conclusions for every last detail even 10 years after the fact. They can trump up their baseless "maybe's" but if the "Establishment" come back with anything less than 100% certainty, they're engaging in conspiracy to cover up a murder.
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03-23-2007, 09:30 AM
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I hear one more time that the "evil Establishment" wanted her dead because her boyfriend was of Islamic persuasion, "she was pregnant with his child", my head is going to start spinning 90mph and shooting out sparks of infuriation.
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I know just how you feel. 
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Me too! 
Isn't it ghastly that the whole "Groundhog Day" has started again. 
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03-23-2007, 12:25 PM
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Well, and truthfully, even if the 'Establishment' answers any question 100%, the conspiracy theorists will not be satisfied. They'll just claim the 'Establishment' is lying, being paid off, or inventing whatever evidence supports their conclusion.
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03-23-2007, 05:57 PM
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Well, and truthfully, even if the 'Establishment' answers any question 100%, the conspiracy theorists will not be satisfied. They'll just claim the 'Establishment' is lying, being paid off, or inventing whatever evidence supports their conclusion. |
That's true. Mohammed al-Fayed even claims that Stevens was ''bribed'' by the ''secret agents'' who stole his computer. That's the price we pay because Stevens is so non-Establishment. The Establishment *must* be bribing him then. Got to get the 'E' word in there somehow.
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I realize I might be naive.... But I think the coroner of the Inquest will not allow Fayed's lawyers to obtain these interviews (with members of the royal family) because it violates not only the Palace confidentiality but also, these interviews are not permissible evidence in the Inquest. Lord Stevens interviewed the Prince of Wales, Duke of Edinburgh, other members, but .... ok here I get messed up. The United States law says that if there is a specific hypothesis (in other words,a damn good reason, backed by evidence) to suspect these interviews might contain information that will lead to conclusion, then the judge may approve the release of such documents to the lawyers. I imagine that in the UK courts, it is similar because US law is by and large based on English common law, but I realize also that there are some differences.
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03-24-2007, 05:57 AM
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The same reason Tony Blair cannot be indicted for the peerages-for-cash scandal while he's still in office is the same reason the Royal Family will not be questioned in public about Diana's death.
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03-24-2007, 06:10 AM
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The same reason Tony Blair cannot be indicted for the peerages-for-cash scandal while he's still in office is the same reason the Royal Family will not be questioned in public about Diana's death.
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In fact Blair can be arrested and charged while he is PM. The Queen is the only person who cannot be arrested, charged or questioned.
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03-24-2007, 10:01 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that what Mo's team are doing is going on a fishing expedition. Any notes taken during the interview's with any member of the BRF, or anyone I should think, would be inadmissable in a court of law. Notes are just that. Notes. The subjective jottings of an interviewer's/investigator's research.
But 'Notes' are what they are after, not Statments.
Unless Phillip, Charles, William or Harry knew something about the circumstances surrounding the accident, I don't see how a "Statement" would have even been necessary. They weren't even on the same continent at the time!
Do they honestly imagine that Prince Charles blurted out a confession to having conspired to commit murder most foul, and Prince's William and Harry had knowledge of such a thing before, during or after the fact? And the interviewer/investigator just took notes?
Beam me up Scottie!
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No, I don't think 'Mo' is this so stupid as to expect a blatant confession in, or implied in, the notes. He might be 'stupid' in other ways (maybe thinking he can salvage his reputation or something) but his attornies are doing what lawyers do -- looking for words and phrases that can be twisted to reflect what they want.
As for statements, I remember from the Paget report Lord Stevens had stated that he had acquired full statements from some members of BRF, in particular Prince Charles and Prince Philip, because in order to be thorough, he had to know where they were, who they spoke to, or whatever else (I don't know) but for this reason, in order to satisfactorily eliminate them as suspects, he had to have statements.
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03-24-2007, 03:24 PM
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I thought Prince Philip refused to speak or give a statement to the investigators.
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03-24-2007, 05:18 PM
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I thought Prince Philip refused to speak or give a statement to the investigators.
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Is he above the law then? I thought only the Queen had that protection. Is it extended to the consort as well?
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