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Old 05-18-2015, 01:22 AM
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Harry gave an interview to the Sunday Times in which he discussed his plans for the short-term:

These are the most relevant bits from the interview. The article itself is behind a paywall. He also strongly supported his father's speaking out as "whatever he says is normally right and about 10 years ahead of when the problems actually happen".
I love this. I haven't heard Harry be so detailed in his support of his father before. Good for Harry! This alone tells me Harry has substance. There is hope. If Harry follows in Charles' footsteps he will be doing well. Look forward to watching his next steps.
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Old 05-18-2015, 01:06 PM
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How long is Harry going to stay in England? The press release was a bit vague about it IIRC
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Old 05-18-2015, 07:10 PM
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Isn't Prince Harry still in New Zealand? I think Harry will spend some time in England with his family and then will head to Africa, if he don't have anymore royal duties to do before he goes. I think Harry is protective of Charles because he was so young when Diana died and Charles was all he had to lean on.
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Old 05-18-2015, 07:18 PM
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Isn't Prince Harry still in New Zealand? I think Harry will spend some time in England with his family and then will head to Africa, if he don't have anymore royal duties to do before he goes. I think Harry is protective of Charles because he was so young when Diana died and Charles was all he had to lean on.
Harry is now back in England
He was at the Chelsea Flower Show, where he has a garden
https://scontent-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...a3&oe=560C5428

The Queen, Charles and others from the royal family visited the garden
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFTfIWSWIAIc3oY.jpg:large
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Old 05-18-2015, 07:33 PM
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I think both William and Harry have a very strong connection to family and as time passes, we see more and more of the boy's parentage coming out in them. Harry is very much his father's son and we're just now getting a little bit of insight into just how much Harry enjoys gardening as his father does. I also thing Harry is astute enough to have seen how his father had to establish his own role as The Prince of Wales and realizes he's in the same situation now where its up to him to carve out and determine just where his interests and talents will be put to us for the best outside his role as a senior royal and supporting the Firm.

I'm happy he's going to have a chance to spend some time in Africa as its a place he's always held dear to his heart and even happier that he wants his time there to be totally out of the limelight. He'll be able to be just Harry the man and wants to be put to work and really doing things rather than appear to be doing things for photo ops and catered to as a prince. He'll also still be working with wounded service personnel when he returns to the UK. Somehow I just couldn't picture him giving up that field of work as he's shown in the past just how important it is to him.

As much as he enjoyed his military service and the ability to be young and stupid at times (oh I miss young and stupid sometimes), he's at the crossroads where its time to find out where the rest of his life is going to take him. A daunting prospect for sure but an opportunity Harry has to reach out and explore with gusto and I have absolutely no doubt that's exactly what he's going to do.
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Old 05-18-2015, 08:09 PM
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At nearly 31, Harry does not appear to know where his life is going. A three month safari trip to Africa. This is not something that will lead to a career. He stated he did not intend to become a full time royal and wanted to experience working among normal people. A trip to Africa chasing animals does not sound like a career but an adventure for a rich white kid.
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Old 05-18-2015, 08:21 PM
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At nearly 31, Harry does not appear to know where his life is going. A three month safari trip to Africa. This is not something that will lead to a career. He stated he did not intend to become a full time royal and wanted to experience working among normal people. A trip to Africa chasing animals does not sound like a career but an adventure for a rich white kid.
To be fair, Harry's interests in Africa lean more to needy humans than safaris.
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Old 05-18-2015, 08:36 PM
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To be accurate, Harry's own words, it is about chasing animals.

Harry's African trip is joy ride. It is Harry continuing his hunt for trophies. In Australia he was pictured sitting on a crocodile. In Africa, it will be photos of Harry with lions, elephants and tigers.

It is the great white hunter without the gun.
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Old 05-18-2015, 08:44 PM
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To be accurate, Harry's own words, it is about chasing animals.

Harry's African trip is joy ride. It is Harry continuing his hunt for trophies. In Australia he was pictured sitting on a crocodile. In Africa, it will be photos of Harry with lions, elephants and tigers.

It is the great white hunter without the gun.
To be fair though, this trip he'll take and being able to see and experience what it takes to work with different African animals and what it all entails could only mean a positive slant to what the Royal Foundation Harry is part of and its work on conservation and protection of endangered species.

Harry is by nature a very hands on type of person. I do have to admire him for being the kind of guy he is rather than just settling to be a figurehead for his charities and patronages.

On the other hand, I do think he'll find his time in Africa and the work he does very rewarding.
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Old 05-18-2015, 09:01 PM
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At nearly 31, Harry does not appear to know where his life is going. A three month safari trip to Africa. This is not something that will lead to a career. He stated he did not intend to become a full time royal and wanted to experience working among normal people. A trip to Africa chasing animals does not sound like a career but an adventure for a rich white kid.
Prince Harry does a lot more for the royal family then Prince William and his the future king of England. I think Prince Harry deserves a three month trip to Africa. I don't think it will be all fun and games, I think He knows it's time for him to figure out what he wants to do for a career and were he wants his life to go. At 31 Harry has done a lot and has step up and took on more royal duties for the Queen. He isn't setting on his butt like William and Kate.
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Old 05-18-2015, 09:02 PM
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To be accurate, Harry's own words, it is about chasing animals.

Harry's African trip is joy ride. It is Harry continuing his hunt for trophies. In Australia he was pictured sitting on a crocodile. In Africa, it will be photos of Harry with lions, elephants and tigers.

It is the great white hunter without the gun.
Why dont you revisit the great post #135. This trip isnt about being a great white hunter, it is about conservation. You seem to have completely missed the point
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Old 05-18-2015, 09:23 PM
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It is about chasing animals. It is not about conservation. It is Harry, the great white hunter, going on his African expedition.
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Old 05-18-2015, 09:53 PM
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Prince Harry does a lot more for the royal family then Prince William and his the future king of England. I think Prince Harry deserves a three month trip to Africa. I don't think it will be all fun and games, I think He knows it's time for him to figure out what he wants to do for a career and were he wants his life to go. At 31 Harry has done a lot and has step up and took on more royal duties for the Queen. He isn't setting on his butt like William and Kate.
When has Harry done more for the RF than William?

This year, for instance, William has done 48 engagements to Harry's 37.

Harry hasn't taken on more for The Queen than William - facts show that quite clearly.
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Old 05-18-2015, 10:01 PM
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Modern conservation is about management of the natural resources to achieve balance and maintain biodiversity, and always bearing in mind the competing interests of man and the natural world. The more man expands his territory, the less land is available for the animals, and where the interests of man and animal clash, it is rarely the animals that win, and even rarer for the plants to prevail.

Conservation is vitally important, and there are many elements to it. A lot of money is required to do the research that is necessary into the animal and plant populations that need protection and management, to find out what their needs are and how they interact with each other and with the human beings who share their space, and how best to cater for and manage all those competing needs to achieve an outcome which is a satisfactory balance for all.

And the interests of biodiversity require research not just into the big ticket animals like elephants and lions and tigers and pandas, but also the worms and moulds and other less attractive but equally vital elements that make the biosphere function properly.

And once the research is done, the work of putting together management plans and making the arrangements necessary to put those plans into effect begins. Human communities up to government level have to be approached and convinced.

The more high profile people who lend their support, especially their time, to the cause of conservation, the more that will be able to be achieved. I think that it would be wonderful if Harry were to make conservation a major project of his. A lot can be achieved by someone with such a high profile. Harry knows how much good his mother did for the causes to which she lent her time and her name. I think he plans on being more hands on than Diana could be, and I think his interest and contribution is a very good thing for conservation. I don't begrudge him some fun trips in safari vehicles while he's in Africa devoting his time to the sustainable management of the species they're chasing and watching.
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Old 05-18-2015, 10:13 PM
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I do think that Harry is serious about this trip,which will concentrate on conservation and sustainable management. It's not about killing anything, and the idea of Harry as 'a great white hunter' is laughable.

I do think that Harry will continue, in between royal engagements, with the two main thrusts of his life so far, (besides his army career, of course) care and rehabilitation of the wounded and care of the disadvantaged in poor regions of Africa like Lesotho. If conservation, in both Africa and in Britain can be added to this, now he has left the army, all the better.
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Old 05-18-2015, 10:15 PM
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There is so much more to conservation of wildlife than standing up at a podium espousing how we should be protecting these animals. Who are the ones that are actively doing so though? Its the park ranger and the veterinarians that do the day to day footwork. To study these animals, they need to be tagged and kept an eye on, to study and watch them in their native environment. There's the 'great white hunters with guns' otherwise known as poachers that need to be kept in line and the list goes on and on.

To be a conservationist and be able to stand up and espouse at a podium whether its for the Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry or any other organization that can be thought of, it is far more convincing to make an argument by not only being able to "talk the talk" but also to know how to "walk the walk".

Maybe its just me but I don't see getting actively involved in what needs to be done in this area as a great "walk in the park" safari to see what he can "bag" as a trophy but actually will be a learning experience that will educate him in a role he's already pledged to stand up and champion for.

No matter how you look at the Wales brothers, they're definitely not marionettes programmed to cut ribbons and unveil plaques on demand but real flesh and blood human beings that, just like us, have to find their own way to contribute to the world around them in ways that mean something to them.
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Old 05-18-2015, 10:17 PM
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By the way, does anyone know if William has gone to view his brother's garden at the Chelsea Flower Show? He didn't last year.
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Old 05-18-2015, 11:29 PM
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I see this as another holiday for Harry. It is the great white hunter and he'll be photographed with a gun next to a big game.

The pictures may or may not appear in the media but he'll be there with the animals and the gun. The gun may or may not be a tranquilizer but I'll stake my last penny on it, he will have his trophies from Africa.

Conservation Harry style, sitting on a crocodile.
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Old 05-19-2015, 12:46 AM
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Let's assume for a minute that this 3 month down time in Africa is nothing more than a glorified safari vacation for Harry. It will be time off for his own pursuits and definitely has the "green flag, all systems are go" from the Queen.

I seriously doubt there will be any kind of pictures that will come out of this. Harry, himself, has stated that he doesn't wish to make public where he is going or who he is doing this with as he's going to work and wishes to be left alone by the public.

I think he deserves it.
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:14 AM
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Well, we will see, I guess, in the months to come as to whether any pictures appear of Harry with gun and dead animals.

He may have to help anaesthetise them in order to move them from poachers for example.

I don't believe for a minute that Harry is going to Africa to be 'a great white hunter'. He said in his interview that he wanted to be of use and whatever they wanted him to do to help he would do.
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