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Old 12-16-2017, 02:06 AM
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Not sure that having the wedding on the same day as the football cup final - the biggest domestic game of the season - will go down well with members of the public. Plus William usually attends and presents the trophy in his official position as president of the FA. The press are talking about a morning wedding and a late afternoon kick off but it does seem, as one paper has put it, as an unnecessary own goal. It has also been suggested that a Saturday wedding has been chosen to avoid the need for a national holiday.
You make it sound like William is a star player missing the game. If he misses the BAFTA awards and it doesn't matter, what does it matter if he misses this game? At least he has a valid excuse.

What does the public have to complain about? Are they worried the football game wont be aired on tv because of the wedding? The wedding reception is never filmed, only the ceremony. There is no reason the public wont be able to watch both of them.

Its not a state occasion. And because of his position, it has been decided to not declare a bank holiday. Which means that they need to choose a weekend or they face backlash of disrupting business doing it mid week. There is no other valid weekend in May and June is filled with major events for the royals.
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Old 12-16-2017, 02:11 AM
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Look lots of the public wont be watching anyway. If they prefer to watch the football, they will do so...
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Old 12-16-2017, 02:18 AM
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Look lots of the public wont be watching anyway. If they prefer to watch the football, they will do so...
Point being they can do both. Not at the same time of day. They can watch both, can watch neither, can watch one or the other. Only ones affected in ability to watch are the guests of the wedding.
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Old 12-16-2017, 02:19 AM
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Not sure that having the wedding on the same day as the football cup final - the biggest domestic game of the season - will go down well with members of the public. Plus William usually attends and presents the trophy in his official position as president of the FA. The press are talking about a morning wedding and a late afternoon kick off but it does seem, as one paper has put it, as an unnecessary own goal. It has also been suggested that a Saturday wedding has been chosen to avoid the need for a national holiday.
Aren't they hours apart? What is the issue? They won't overlap. Just seem like it will be an unforgettable day. One party to the next.
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Old 12-16-2017, 02:27 AM
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Not sure that having the wedding on the same day as the football cup final - the biggest domestic game of the season - will go down well with members of the public. Plus William usually attends and presents the trophy in his official position as president of the FA. The press are talking about a morning wedding and a late afternoon kick off but it does seem, as one paper has put it, as an unnecessary own goal. It has also been suggested that a Saturday wedding has been chosen to avoid the need for a national holiday.
Its pretty obvious, that there weren't other possible dates to consider. April and beginning of May were ruled out because of Kate and her pregnancy. The 6 month engagement visa rule makes June impossible. Meghan's friends coming from Canada have a public holiday on the weekend of 19th, so they can attend. The football fans just need to deal with the wedding happening in the earlier part of the day, and the football match the latter part of the day. I honestly don't see the issue here at all.
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Old 12-16-2017, 02:54 AM
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Its pretty obvious, that there weren't other possible dates to consider. April and beginning of May were ruled out because of Kate and her pregnancy. The 6 month engagement visa rule makes June impossible. Meghan's friends coming from Canada have a public holiday on the weekend of 19th, so they can attend. The football fans just need to deal with the wedding happening in the earlier part of the day, and the football match the latter part of the day. I honestly don't see the issue here at all.
It’s not even just that Canada has a long weekend, but the next Saturday and the Saturday are just impossible due to the horse show and Trooping rehearsal.
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Old 12-16-2017, 03:26 AM
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It’s not even just that Canada has a long weekend, but the next Saturday and the Saturday are just impossible due to the horse show and Trooping rehearsal.
Even if it came down to May 19 being the only time Meghan's friends could come to the wedding vs a football match, be it a FA cup final, I fail to see how the pride would have to sacrifice her friends being part of her wedding day. A bit of perspective is needed, I think.
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Old 12-16-2017, 05:10 AM
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I'm a fan of this couple but it's a real error in having the wedding on the day of the FA Cup Final.

This wedding did not have to be in May, it could've been literally any Saturday apart from the Easter weekend, Trooping the Colour and the Windsor Horse Show.

The FA Cup Final is the one football match that even fans of teams not involved watch. It is the oldest cup competition in world football. It has a global audience in the hundreds of millions. A great many people, across the UK who aren't all that into football will watch some or all of it.

My main issue though is that this is now a security headache of enormous proportions. Football matches have already been targeted by terrorists as have the royals. The security services must be dreading it. The British taxpayer will be out millions as police are drafted in to work overtime to be able to cover all of this properly. Additionally, it'll cost the BBC a ton of money to cover both events.

This simply did not have to happen. Any other Saturday would have done, in just about any other month. Whoever is in charge of coordinating this is clearly incompetent.
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Old 12-16-2017, 05:24 AM
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I'm a fan of this couple but it's a real error in having the wedding on the day of the FA Cup Final.

This wedding did not have to be in May, it could've been literally any Saturday apart from the Easter weekend, Trooping the Colour and the Windsor Horse Show.

The FA Cup Final is the one football match that even fans of teams not involved watch. It is the oldest cup competition in world football. It has a global audience in the hundreds of millions. A great many people, across the UK who aren't all that into football will watch some or all of it.

My main issue though is that this is now a security headache of enormous proportions. Football matches have already been targeted by terrorists as have the royals. The security services must be dreading it. The British taxpayer will be out millions as police are drafted in to work overtime to be able to cover all of this properly. Additionally, it'll cost the BBC a ton of money to cover both events.

This simply did not have to happen. Any other Saturday would have done, in just about any other month. Whoever is in charge of coordinating this is clearly incompetent.


It’s the security that worries me too. It’s a big job for either event but both on same day I pray nothing goes wrong
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Old 12-16-2017, 05:41 AM
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Well, perhaps the couple could have married in April. I'm sure they would have liked to. After all, pregnant women do attend weddings. Princess Madelaine was there for her brother Carl Philip's nuptials two days before she gave birth.

Or perhaps Meghan and Harry could have put it off for yet another month, two months? Till the Queen and Prince Philip's holidays were over perhaps? After all it's only their wedding day. How could they be so selfish as to not consider a football match when it came to Meghan's friends from her TV show being able to attend instead of work on the 19th!

Presumably the members of the BRF were consulted, as were the security services. If the Royals, security and the police had any problem with the date then they would have said so. Heaven forbid that the BBC should be put out in any way either. The royal wedding and the FA cup are hours apart and the reality is, nobody is being inconvenienced.
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Old 12-16-2017, 05:55 AM
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How dare they get married on a day of the most important in the world to fans of *football*............ Yes, Curryong, you are so correct, how dare they.......we must make Harry and Meghan change the date now for if not, no one is going to be at the wedding.....
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Old 12-16-2017, 06:22 AM
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I'm a fan of this couple but it's a real error in having the wedding on the day of the FA Cup Final.

This wedding did not have to be in May, it could've been literally any Saturday apart from the Easter weekend, Trooping the Colour and the Windsor Horse Show.

The FA Cup Final is the one football match that even fans of teams not involved watch. It is the oldest cup competition in world football. It has a global audience in the hundreds of millions. A great many people, across the UK who aren't all that into football will watch some or all of it.

My main issue though is that this is now a security headache of enormous proportions. Football matches have already been targeted by terrorists as have the royals. The security services must be dreading it. The British taxpayer will be out millions as police are drafted in to work overtime to be able to cover all of this properly. Additionally, it'll cost the BBC a ton of money to cover both events.

This simply did not have to happen. Any other Saturday would have done, in just about any other month. Whoever is in charge of coordinating this is clearly incompetent.
Perhaps the 19th was the only date Meghan's friends/family from Canada could attend. It's been explained here, that this weekend lands on a public holiday, and a long weekend. Seeing, as she's the pride who's getting married, I think football fans take the second seat in having an opinion on that. Also, these two events won't overlap. The televised wedding will be over way before the match even starts.

What Saturday would you suggest would've been more preferred option?
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Old 12-16-2017, 06:37 AM
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Personally, when it comes to football (American or soccer), I prefer to sleep through the games. Now ice hockey is a different ball of wax.

Its great to be retired. I can sleep when I want to. I will probably go to sleep around 6pm the night before the wedding and surface all bright eyed and bushy tailed to tune into all the pre-wedding stuff that's happening on the TV, the internet and here on TRF at around 3am. Like a lot of people here on this thread, May 19th will be totally dedicated to royal wedding watching. Its "the" big event for any dedicated royal watcher no matter where they are.

When selecting the date for their wedding, I'm also sure that assuring that it was convenient for the general public was not a consideration. Its Harry and Meghan's day and those close to Harry and Meghan would be the people most considered. That date happened to work for them, for those that they wanted to be there to celebrate the wedding, it works for security and for the town of Windsor. It was decided on those factors. The FA football final just happens to be on that day also but no one is holding a knife to anyone's throat to not prefer to watch the game. I think its very inconsiderate of anyone to even suggest that William would be "shirking his duty" if he didn't hand out medals at the game. Everyone in the general public has the right to request time off to attend a family wedding from their jobs and a lot of people do just that. Why wouldn't the same consideration be given to William? I don't see the Fail dumping on William should he have to cancel an engagement to be at his wife's side when their third child is born. Contrary to the Fail's opinion, working royals are not puppets on a string to push wherever they want them to go.
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Old 12-16-2017, 06:52 AM
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Traditions around rings have really changed. For example, the Irish claddagh ring now is popular as actual wedding rings. Until recently, the claddagh ring was traditionally given from a mother to her daughter. Men didn't start wearing them at all until the 20th century. I had a friend from Belfast that wore one and also still see "Archie Bunker" Carroll O'Connor wearing his in reruns.

Its a matter of personal choice whether to wear a wedding ring or not. Some men just do not like wearing rings. My husband won't be without wearing his. He had eye surgery in October and the last thing he did before the surgery is take it off and hand it to me and it was the first thing he requested after the surgery. Its a matter of personal taste. Should Harry not wear a wedding ring, is there anyone really in the world that isn't going to know he's married?
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Old 12-16-2017, 06:56 AM
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They clearly want to get married, so why push the wedding to a later date?

To me it sounds as if they did their homework well. Taking into account that Meghan had work obligations until mid November, being realistic in that Meghan needs at least several months to be further introduced into royal life, probably considerin Lent as inappropriate (at least by the Queen) and taking into account the expected birth of Harry's niece or nephew, they landed on Mau as their wedding month, Saturday as the day of the week that would be most convenient for guests and the general public, and the 19th as the date that would work for the town of Windsor and the royal household.
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Old 12-16-2017, 07:16 AM
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I'm a fan of this couple but it's a real error in having the wedding on the day of the FA Cup Final.

This wedding did not have to be in May, it could've been literally any Saturday apart from the Easter weekend, Trooping the Colour and the Windsor Horse Show.

The FA Cup Final is the one football match that even fans of teams not involved watch. It is the oldest cup competition in world football. It has a global audience in the hundreds of millions. A great many people, across the UK who aren't all that into football will watch some or all of it.

My main issue though is that this is now a security headache of enormous proportions. Football matches have already been targeted by terrorists as have the royals. The security services must be dreading it. The British taxpayer will be out millions as police are drafted in to work overtime to be able to cover all of this properly. Additionally, it'll cost the BBC a ton of money to cover both events.

This simply did not have to happen. Any other Saturday would have done, in just about any other month. Whoever is in charge of coordinating this is clearly incompetent.
May was about the earliest the wedding could be held given a number of factors we've covered here over and over. It seems this date was chosen after some consideration given the length of time it took after the engagement announcement to the wedding date announcement.
It is simply ridiculous to be this worked up over a football game and state any other Saturday on any date would have worked better when that is simply not true.
Surely most all the police in all of Britain don't congregate in and around Wembley for the game? And given the wedding is at Windsor, there are some security arrangements and protocols already in place to follow. They're not doing this in a vacuum. I'm sure security was one of many of the considerations.
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Old 12-16-2017, 07:22 AM
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I it isn't ideal from a security point of view, IMO. Of course the police and security forces will have been consulted but they will problably have done their best to accommodate the wedding, knowng that there is a limited time that the RF could fit in.. The RF and court need time to organise it, usualy a few months, and Meghan is a newcomer to the UK. And they want nice weather and sunshine if possible.. so it wasn't going to be until at least April which might clash with K's baby.
Then its Trooping the Colour time and a little later it will be "holdays" time...
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Old 12-16-2017, 08:07 AM
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I ending up figuring it would be the 18th or 19th...it gives them time to go on a 10 day honeymoon like will and kate and recover from jet leg in time for trooping...

i dont think william is bothered by the day...the vp of the fa will prob hand out the trophies...and he'll host the winners at a reception at kensington..no biggie..dont no why people are mad about the day...still inconvenient for americans no matter what...have to wake up early if you wanna see any of it..
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Should Harry not wear a wedding ring, is there anyone really in the world that isn't going to know he's married?
Of course not. I do think it is more of the feeling though. He probably won't wear it but I am sure it will be an adjustment for Meghan since she likely grow up surrounded by the notion that married people wear rings.

There will be hours in between the events. I just liken this to security having to deal with massive crowds everywhere like for New Year or when protests happen. They will be fine and people groaning over the match will be too.
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May 26 would not have been good because that is Memorial Day weekend in the US. Memorial Day is not just barbeques and the start of the summer season, it's honoring America's war dead. It would not have gone over well in certain quarters in the US, and there was the danger of having the wedding politicized.
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