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05-16-2018, 08:53 PM
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05-16-2018, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Terri Terri
Wait a minute! This man is contradicting himself and making absolutely no sense!!! Now do we really believe that Prince Harry is doing everything himself without input from the Queen and Prince of Wales and staff???!!!! Seriously?
And this is the same man who wrote about Meghan and Harry attending a Cbristmas party at Windsor and being introduced to the staff and workers who will work at their wedding...now he's claiming that the workers have never met Meghan??
Which of his lies are we to believe?
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And let's not forget that Samantha Cohen, the Queen's assistant Private Secretary who is the portege of Christopher Geidt, is taking over as Harry's interim Private Secretary after the wedding. So I wouldn't be so sure that there isn't communication on what to do. There isn't much that you can do about the family members that Meghan doesn't have anything to do with and hasn't had anything for years. And they obviously don't have anything to dish on Meghan either. As for Tom, I think people are just surprised. He has not made any explosive comments or anything, who knew the floodgate would open literally the week of the wedding if there hasn't been anything since Nov 2016? It's out of characteristic over the long run.
And by any logic, any normal wedding would give parents some input on who they want to invite, I highly doubt none of Charles' friends are coming.
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05-16-2018, 08:54 PM
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If the Richard Kay article is to be believed, Buckingham Palace and Clarence House haven't been involved in any of the planing and have been kept in the dark about the arrangements. So if this is the case, then the Queen and Charles may not have known who was and wasn't on the guest list.
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 Yeah I don't believe this article in the slightest.
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05-16-2018, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by soapstar
If the Richard Kay article is to be believed, Buckingham Palace and Clarence House haven't been involved in any of the planing and have been kept in the dark about the arrangements. So if this is the case, then the Queen and Charles may not have known who was and wasn't on the guest list.
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I highly doubt he's right on that. BP and Clarence House staff was there on hand when Jason Knauf conduct the press briefing at BP the day after the engagement was announced. The Queen herself consulted with the government on the fact that there will be no official guest at the wedding. The Lord Chamberlain's office is involved. This isn't run by just some random wedding planner that's just hired. As I mentioned earlier, the Queen's outgoing assistant Private Secretary Samantha Cohen, who is known to be quite loyal to Christopher Geidt, will take over at Harry's interim Private Secretary this summer, do we really think there is no communication?
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05-16-2018, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by soapstar
If the Richard Kay article is to be believed, Buckingham Palace and Clarence House haven't been involved in any of the planing and have been kept in the dark about the arrangements. So if this is the case, then the Queen and Charles may not have known who was and wasn't on the guest list.
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A high profile wedding with the Queen and Prince of Wales paying the bills AND being the HOSTS, and they aren't involved in the wedding planning???? Do we seriously believe that would happen!
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05-16-2018, 08:58 PM
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And let's not forget that Samantha Cohen, the Queen's assistant Private Secretary who is the portege of Christopher Geidt, is taking over as Harry's interim Private Secretary after the wedding. So I wouldn't be so sure that there isn't communication on what to do. There isn't much that you can do about the family members that Meghan doesn't have anything to do with and hasn't had anything for years. And they obviously don't have anything to dish on Meghan either. As for Tom, I think people are just surprised. He has not made any explosive comments or anything, who knew the floodgate would open literally the week of the wedding if there hasn't been anything since Nov 2016? It's out of characteristic over the long run.
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I do think the tabloids held onto this information about Thomas Sr - the staged pics. I don't buy that they didn't know about this until now. They held onto it until they could inflict maximum damage and then gleefully watched as Thomas Sr made it worse by spiralling out of control, canceling, then saying he was coming, then saying he had a heart attack/pains, then surgery, etc..
The gloves seem to have completely come off with the paps. I think they've been quietly fuming at KP for Harry's statement after Meghan was revealed as his girlfriend and have been lying in wait to attack.
All I know is that I hope KP manages to get this under control. I know they keep releasing information about the wedding details as much as possible this week, but like I said - Samantha and her half brother and uncle just want to watch (Meghan's) world burn, so that is extremely tough to fight.
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05-16-2018, 09:03 PM
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I do think the tabloids held onto this information about Thomas Sr - the staged pics. I don't buy that they didn't know about this until now. They held onto it until they could inflict maximum damage and then gleefully watched as Thomas Sr made it worse by spiralling out of control, canceling, then saying he was coming, then saying he had a heart attack/pains, then surgery, etc..
The gloves seem to have completely come off with the paps. I think they've been quietly fuming at KP for Harry's statement after Meghan was revealed as his girlfriend and have been lying in wait to attack.
All I know is that I hope KP manages to get this under control. I know they keep releasing information about the wedding details as much as possible this week, but like I said - Samantha and her half brother and uncle just want to watch (Meghan's) world burn, so that is extremely tough to fight.
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I can agree with that. And yea, not much you can do about people who just wants to hurt someone and don't have any dignity or pride to loose.
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05-16-2018, 09:07 PM
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A high profile wedding with the Queen and Prince of Wales paying the bills AND being the HOSTS, and they aren't involved in the wedding planning???? Do we seriously believe that would happen!
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Also you'd think if this caused such a scandal in the BRF that word would have gotten back to the Queen/Charles. If the press knows the extended Kent and Gloucester clans aren't invited then I assume BP and CH do too.
People talk and presumably, if this is such a breach of protocol, someone would have brought it to the Queen or Charles' attention. If they still aren't on the guest list then either the Queen has less knowledge of "protocol" then the DM or it really isn't that big of a deal.
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05-16-2018, 09:08 PM
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Late arriving on the wedding party talk, but excited to come home to it.
I am surprised they have 10, I thought if they went more then six, they may go with the 8 mixed pairs some suggested. Wasn't expecting 10. But I am thrilled to see we have a balance of both sides of the couple. Three flower girls and two page boys each. The fact that the oldest is only 7, and there is no maid of honor will make for an interesting day. Hopefully help is near.
As for the daily mail.....I don't read it as a comment on race. But simply on Class. That Kate may have been a commoner, but at least she followed tradition, and made sure her bridal party was posh and blue blooded. Meghan is once again breaking tradition, and insisting on low class bridal party.  Except the Litt girls, this bridal party is just as posh. William had kids of his former nanny and his private secretary, not upper crust posh either.
William-future king of the UK, 2nd in line
Prince George-future king of the UK, 3rd in line
Princess Charlotte- 4th in line for the throne
Ivy, John and Brian Mulroney- grandchildren of the former PM of Canada
Florence Van Cutsem- granddaughter of Charles' dear friend, her Uncle William is George's godfather. Her cousin was in Will and Kate's wedding.
Zalie Warren: granddaughter of the queen's racing manager
Remi and Rylan: daughters of Meghan's close friend
Jasper Dyer: son of Harry's mentor
Well at least we know 4 of Harry's six godchildren, Florence, Zalie and Jasper as well as Tiggy's eldest son.
Haven't seen Zalie, Jasper or Florence, but the others are adorable. I can imagine Meghan's three little bridesmaids are so thrilled. Their mommys' friend is marrying a real life prince and they get to be in the wedding.
Glad Doria, Jessica and Benita are there. I am sure Meghan is needing the support right now. Three days to the wedding is hard on any bride, without it being a huge royal wedding. Not to mention all her family drama.
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05-16-2018, 09:10 PM
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You are assuming he’s close to his third cousins at all.
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We're assuming he even knows who they are.
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05-16-2018, 09:13 PM
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We're assuming he even knows who they are. 
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No we aren't assuming he knows them at all. We have photos of them attending Christmas parties every year and on the balcony at Trooping. The Fail is suggesting that its not just the third cousins like Amelia, who weren't invited. But all the Gloucester and Kents, except the senior ones. That means Freddie and Ella who Harry grew up with at Kensington.
He certainly knows them more then many of the celebrities who have been invited. Who he may have met once or twice at charity events.
Celebrities are always invited to royal weddings. That said, usually so are the rest of the family.
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05-16-2018, 09:19 PM
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We're assuming he even knows who they are. 
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Uhm, he grew up with them, so unless he suddenly developed amnesia he definitely knows who they are!
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05-16-2018, 09:20 PM
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Who would ever think that plastic flowers would be used at a Royal Wedding?
Who would ever think that silk flowers would be used at a Royal Wedding?
Do you believe that the flower girls will carry baskets that have some of the flowers that are the same as in the bridal bouquet?
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05-16-2018, 09:21 PM
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I'm not sure I believe the Daily Mail about who and who isn't invited.
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05-16-2018, 09:21 PM
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Good gracious!!! A wink smiley face isn't enough of a "sarcasm" indicator for you? Do I have to write JOKE in bold for people not to take things so seriously?
I will say this, after Tom Jr. 's apology letter, if I was Meghan I "may" invite him but disinvite dad and still walk down the aisle alone or with Harry.
I've also always been of the opinion that Meghan 's nieces and nephews should be invited.
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05-16-2018, 09:25 PM
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I highly doubt he's right on that. BP and Clarence House staff was there on hand when Jason Knauf conduct the press briefing at BP the day after the engagement was announced. The Queen herself consulted with the government on the fact that there will be no official guest at the wedding. The Lord Chamberlain's office is involved. This isn't run by just some random wedding planner that's just hired. As I mentioned earlier, the Queen's outgoing assistant Private Secretary Samantha Cohen, who is known to be quite loyal to Christopher Geidt, will take over at Harry's interim Private Secretary this summer, do we really think there is no communication?
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Well that's why I said "if" Richard Kay is to be believed.
TMZ is saying that Elton John is performing at either the wedding ceremony or the evening reception (they haven't confirmed which one yet).
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05-16-2018, 09:36 PM
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Well that's why I said "if" Richard Kay is to be believed. 
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I just like to be a contrarian and point out the holes in the piece.
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05-16-2018, 09:36 PM
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There have been lots of unconventional royal brides/ grooms in recent times ( Mette-Marit, , Máxima, Letizia, Daniel, Sofia, Camilla, etc.), but I must confess I have never seen anything even remotely close to the drama and negativity surrounding this royal wedding. It is turning the British Royal Family into a laughing stock,.
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05-16-2018, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by XeniaCasaraghi
Good gracious!!! A wink smiley face isn't enough of a "sarcasm" indicator for you? Do I have to write JOKE in bold for people not to take things so seriously?
I will say this, after Tom Jr. 's apology letter, if I was Meghan I "may" invite him but disinvite dad and still walk down the aisle alone or with Harry.
I've also always been of the opinion that Meghan 's nieces and nephews should be invited.
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Ashleigh and Christopher, I agree but what other relatives do you find worthy of an invite?
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05-16-2018, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla
Who would ever think that plastic flowers would be used at a Royal Wedding?
Who would ever think that silk flowers would be used at a Royal Wedding?
Do you believe that the flower girls will carry baskets that have some of the flowers that are the same as in the bridal bouquet?
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The article you posted, the flowers being loaded into the truck, mainly were silk flowers. So the suggestion the flowers in the truck are for the royal wedding, would suggest someone thinks it is possible.
Its pretty customary for the flowers to be the same in the bouquets, and often in other arrangements. The bridal bouquet is just larger and more impressive. With a royal bouquet there will be a few differences, like the myrtle.
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