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06-05-2019, 07:56 AM
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All what He did not receive from his Mother, he receives from our Marie.
In France , he will be with the elites because of their behaviour and he is there because he is the Queen of Denmark's Son. It will not be easy.
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06-05-2019, 12:03 PM
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So Prince Nikolai really dropped from the military. Wait a sec, I'm not sure about this so please don't quote me on this. Constantinos also signed up for military right?
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06-05-2019, 04:57 PM
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Thank you Muhler for posting the details of the interview. Always appreciated!
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06-06-2019, 10:14 AM
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You are welcome, HereditaryPrincess.
BB will show live from the guests arriving to celebrate Joachim at Amalienborg tomorrow.
Both on their website and on Facebook.
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...rs-foedselsdag
In case I am not around to post a link, I'm sure someone else will.
BB will start sending from 19.10.
I noticed that there were comments regarding the, admittedly, less than flattering photo of Alexandra arriving at the concert.
Here is a BB video, that will provide a better look at her:
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...de-sin-eksmand
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06-06-2019, 02:54 PM
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Thank you so much, Muhler!
An interesting interview with Joachim. So he seems to have realised in the last years that the medial focus will be on Frederik and his family in the future. But he wasn't too clear what that really means for him IMO. He wants to focus on his family. That's great, but I am sure his family was always impotant to him (and that's certainly also true for Frederik?). So what does this realisation mean for his (royal?) work?
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I mean there will be three more?
“Well… two at least.”
Q: It might be that Princess Athena will also sign up for the military?
“Well… yes, as she is right now, it might very well be!
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I am really happy that the journalist thought of Athena and a little disappointed that Joachim didn't - especially when Nikolai's experience must have make him think about role ecpectations and stereotypes in connection with the military. But maybe the journalist made him think about it and next time he will consider Athena too.
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Fortunately the family is able to go to Schackenborg often and they were there to celebrate Henrik’s birthday, because the boy is very fond of the place.
“Last year we could celebrate Henrik’s birthday in Paris. He would like that. And instead of going to amusement parks, he wanted to see monuments. So we saw Notre Dame both inside and outside. So when we saw the disaster during Easter, he said: “How fortunate it was last year we saw it.
That I thought was a touching reflection.” (And that’s why I think Henrik, to my surprise, is the one who looks most forward to go to Paris. Apart from apparently being a little nerd, he is obviously fond of France...)
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Henrik really sounds like a great special little guy. I am really looking forward to seeing him grow up.
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06-06-2019, 03:20 PM
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Here's another nice gallery of the concert on Monday, belga has provided today:
** belga gallery **
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06-06-2019, 03:22 PM
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Thank you so much, Muhler!
A)
An interesting interview with Joachim. So he seems to have realised in the last years that the medial focus will be on Frederik and his family in the future. But he wasn't too clear what that really means for him IMO. He wants to focus on his family. That's great, but I am sure his family was always impotant to him (and that's certainly also true for Frederik?). So what does this realisation mean for his (royal?) work?
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I am really happy that the journalist thought of Athena and a little disappointed that Joachim didn't - especially when Nikolai's experience must have make him think about role ecpectations and stereotypes in connection with the military. But maybe the journalist made him think about it and next time he will consider Athena too.
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Henrik really sounds like a great special little guy. I am really looking forward to seeing him grow up.
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You are welcome.
A) Hmm! I still have a feeling that this move is also a trial-run for the family as a whole.
If they all thrive in France, why not move there? Or buy a house there and go there regularly - a second home if you will.
What I noticed was Joachim's remarks about him now focusing on his own branch of the DRF-tree. And as you point out, he is quietly fading away. That is the destiny of his children at least. But also over time for J&M themselves. In ten-fifteen years Christian and Isabella will have a role in their own right within the DRF.
At the same time Henrik will have finished high-school and Athena will be close behind.
If Joachim exchange his apanage with an expense account, there will be little protest from the population of him settling in France and only return for the odd job in connection with some protection. Our Marie doesn't get an apanage in her own right.
On top of that Joachim is (IMO unfairly) not a particular popular member of the DRF.
He is a Francophile (and so it seems is his youngest son) and there is no law saying that a Prince can't settle in his wife's country.
B) That IMO is because Joachim is very conservative. He is not for anything his father's son. I think in regards to to family-dynamics, he would feel right at home in 1950. A father is the man of the house! The patron. That's a role he feels fine in. - That Marie, like so many wives before her, may really be the one who has the final say, may not even have dawned on him yet.
It is clear from this interview that we should be no means underestimate Marie! She may also feel comfortable in the traditional family-role as mother and the support of her husband, but that doesn't mean she has no say. - On the contrary!
Their relationship may be so stable and loving, because they both have a defined role to play - which nevertheless leaves a surprising lot of space to move in.
It's quite interesting!
Anyway, to a traditional father, as Joachim is, the idea of his daughter in the military... Nah. Especially if she is also daddy's precious little girl. 
But the one of Joachim's four children who I think will feel at home in the military is Felix. No doubt about that. He is the most physical of the boys. Also having boxed in his spare time.
C) He is! It's first time I really get a deeper idea of his personality. Athena, who is more outward is perhaps easier to form a picture of. But her more shadowy older brother is more difficult.
From this account, he is clearly connected to his dad, who is a history-buff and his farmor, who as we all know have a burning interest in such matters as well.
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06-06-2019, 04:36 PM
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Prince Joachim's 50th Birthday Celebrations: June 2019
I agree with other posters about Alexandra's "transformation" … JMHO, but this is a woman who (as we now know) gave up a Prince for another man, got dumped by that man, and is now 50+ (..)
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06-06-2019, 05:27 PM
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well, the usual sexist comments about women, even when they look great for their age, after having passed their 40th or 50th birthday...
Despite all "me2" or gender discussions, these kind of archaic reflexes seemed to have survived all these controversies.... it´s very sad and says a lot about our real western "values" and society´s achievements when it comes to gender equality!    (..)
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06-07-2019, 01:20 AM
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Speculative posts about plastic surgery have been removed according to the TR rules! Thank you for your understanding!
Today, June 7, it's Joachim's birthday and the Palace has released a set of new photos:
** kongehuset: H.K.H. Prins Joachims fødselsdag **
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06-07-2019, 11:12 AM
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A nice family picture for his 50th birthday
and a great post on Joachim; his life and family
H.K.H. Prins Joachim fylder 50 år | Kongehuset
An early Saturday morning 50 years ago, H.K.H. Prince Joachim came to the world at Rigshospitalet in Copenhagen. Shortly after the birth, Prince Henrik wrote this letter to Frederik 9.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByaI-KzghwY/
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06-07-2019, 11:32 AM
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You can watch the guests arriving on this BB live link in 1½ hours from now. At 19.10 DK time.
This is posted at 17.30 DK time.
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...l-50-aars-fest
While waiting for the live stream to begin, let's look at this interview in which Joachim explains that when he got divorced from Alexandra, it was his father he turned to for support, and it was his father who gave him the crucial support.
https://www.bt.dk/underholdning/prin...min-skilsmisse
Man står der rådvild, søgende, og så oplever man ... Men hov. Der er lige en vennehånd, som rækker ud til en. Og ikke siger: "Gå den vej" eller "gå den vej" eller "gør det, og gør det".
- Men tværtimod siger: "Jeg er her". Nu er det ikke farmand, der viser dig, at vi skal igennem det sorte rum, og der er en dør derhenne, og du skal ikke være mørkeræd. Nej, tværtimod siger: "Hey. Jeg er en ven. Tager du min hånd, så er den der
"You stand there, bewildered, seeking and then you experience - But hey. There is a friendly hand reachim out to you. Who doesn't say: Go this way or go that way or do this and do that.
But who on the contrary says: I'm here. Now it's not daddy, who is showing you that we most walk through the dark room and there is a door over there, and don't be afraid of the dark. But who on the contrary says: Hey. I'm a friend. If you take my hand it's there."
During that period, PH and Joachim grew closer. They were no longer merely father and son, they became close friends.
Joachim now feels the same with Nikolai:
Jeg kan mærke, at vi er ved at være der, hvor vi nærmer os et venskabeligt plan. Det er ikke sådan, at vi var uvenskabelige før, men nu er vi der, hvor vi går fra at være far-søn til at være ven-ven. Og det er en meget stor følelse. Der er noget fuldkomment over at nå helt dertil. Og jeg har tænkt over, at det også var det, jeg oplevede med min far
"I can feel that we are about to be there where we are approaching a friendship. It's not like we were unfriendly before, but now we are there where we go from father-son to be friend-friend. It's a very big feeling. There is something complete about reaching that. And I have been thinking that this was also what I experienced with my father."
Live link:
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...l-50-aars-fest
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06-07-2019, 01:20 PM
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I’m guessing the guests are friends and family?
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06-07-2019, 01:28 PM
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It is lovely that all the kids are invited. Nice to make them feel a little bit grown up for a night.
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06-07-2019, 01:56 PM
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I’m guessing the guests are friends and family?
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Friends, relatives, former co-workers (among them some from Hong Kong) former comrades in arms and also the here in DK, popular former French ambassador, who has become a good friend of M&F. It was a nice touch that France is also represented, albeit indirectly as country.
The former ambassador is a well-known face here, alas not always in connection with happy events.
I'm sure Athena and Josephine will be seated next to each other - that's going to be lively!
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06-07-2019, 03:05 PM
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Both Athena and Josephine likes the attention. The little hams.
Notice Vincen't butterfly.
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06-07-2019, 03:09 PM
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06-07-2019, 03:37 PM
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It has been noticed in the press that two couples and Caroline Fleming were late. I.e. arriving after the royals.
One couple sneaked right past QMII who was standing in the door waiting for Joachim.
Caroline Fleming arrived after M&F, but she sure wasn't in a hurry to get inside! Posing and chatting with journalists. She excused herself with her flight from London having been delayed.
And the last couple arrived well after J&M had gone inside.
Come on! These are all people who are used to move around in royal circles.
Bad form.
I noticed Alexandra with her new husband and Prince Nikolaos seeming strolled across the square. I guess they either stayed at M&F or borrowed Benedikte's apartment for the final dress up.
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06-07-2019, 04:31 PM
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The birthday celebrations for Joachim are bigger than I expected them to be but perhaps I'm used to the BRF here in the UK having low profile birthdays 
The photo of the family is lovely and little Athena has grown up so much! I love how she was leaning on to Marie in the photos of the family on the red carpet. They seem to be very close. I bet Athena and Josephine will have a ball together tonight
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