Nicholas Medforth-Mills (formerly His Royal Highness Prince Nicholas of Romania)

[eya]

"a way of life that leads me find difficult to accept" what this mean?

[LadyFinn]

Originally Posted by eya

"a way of life that leads me find difficult to accept" what this mean?

Google translation isn't always so good, so we have to wait until the statement is published in english in some news website. Then we can know what he really meant.

An article in english about Nicholas' statement:
...I assume this decision, it comes following a period when I have reflected upon the future of the country and of our House, as well as upon the role that I can play for their growth. The position of prince of Romania and the presence in the line of succession are enforcing a way of conducting my life that I find difficult to accept. That’s why, I regretfully consider that the decision of HM the King is welcome to me. I will search in the future to serve my ideals and principles in a different way...
First statements of Prince Nicolae after removal from the line of succession _ The Romania Journal

[Lee-Z]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

A statement from Nicholas is now at the website of the Royal Family:
Comunicatul Biroului de Presă al Majestății Sale, 11 august 2015 _ Familia Regală a României _ Royal Family of Romania
Translation

In a situation like this Google translate is unfortunately not exact enough, i have a feeling that the exact wording of the statement is very important here and hopefully a romanian speaking person can enlighten us how accurate google go the translation.

That said, what i can make of it, it seems Mihai and Nicolas had a discussion about the topic, Mihai made the decision and Nicolas, although it wouldn't have been his decision, accepts the decision that was made...

[fearghas]

I don't see how his charitavle works would have been a hinderance to the position, as implied by all this. It would have been of benefit for Romania. Some people have thought that sexuality may have bee an issue, and I thik that is valid though only speculation. I also think that rejigon may also be an issue. In a country, which I think still has deep religious beliefs, and a family that upholds the Christian church. Perhaps Nicholas is an atheist, or Buddhist.

[Royalotta]

Over the centuries, many monarchs and their heirs have lived lives which fly in the face of the social norms but they've done so quietly and privately. I can't see sexuality or religion being a factor in this.

[Jacknch]

The position of prince of Romania and the presence in the line of succession are enforcing a way of conducting my life that I find difficult to accept.

Interesting and brave words from Nicolae. What's more, I can think of several royals who could potentially have said exactly the same sort of thing, but never did anything about it and ploughed on regardless becoming more and more unhappier.

[wartenberg7]

speechless....

[Lee-Z]

Originally Posted by Jacknch

Interesting and brave words from Nicolae. What's more, I can think of several royals who could potentially have said exactly the same sort of thing, but never did anything about it and ploughed on regardless becoming more and more unhappier.

i think you have a point there; others may have considered it but didn't act on that or possibly weren't given the opportunity to act on it..
If he saw his royal future as a golden cage, similar to how P.Claus of the Netherlands and (i think) P.Masako of Japan perceived it, this was the right choice to make

[Duc_et_Pair]

All in all it was a wise decision by King Michael. Mr Nicholas Medforth-Mills, later Mr Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth-Mills, later Prince Nicolae of Romania, now again Mr Nicholas Medforth-Mills in essence is a Swiss-born man from a British father who suddenly saw himself incorporated in a senior role in the Romanian royal family. No one then thinks about the man himself. What does he think about all this? The privilèges (are there?) versus the consequences (not having a private life). The own ambitions versus the royal expectations. The own worldview versus the world(view) of the former Romanian monarchy.

As I understood it all, Nicholas has come to the point for himself that he sees no future for him as Heir to the Romanian royal dynasty. Then it is the best and the wisest decision to end it, now it is still not so settled deeply. Here and there I see posters assuming that the monarchy ends etc. but that is not true. The original line of succession, before King Michael changed it by himself, still is as established by the last Constitution before the Communist seizure of the country. And that is:

1. Karl Friedrich Fürst von Hohenzollern (1952), son of Friedrich Wilhelm Fürst von Hohenzollern and of Princess Margarita von Leiningen

2. Alexander Prinz von Hohenzollern (1987), son of Karl Friedrich Fürst von Hohenzollern and of Alexandra Schenk, Gräfin von Stauffenberg

3. Albrecht Johannes Prinz von Hohenzollern (1954), son of Friedrich Wilhelm Fürst von Hohenzollern and of Princess Margarita von Leiningen

4. Ferdinand Maria Prinz von Hohenzollern (1960), son of Friedrich Wilhelm Fürst von Hohenzollern and of Princess Margarita von Leiningen

5. Aloïs Prinz von Hohenzollern (1999), son of Ferdinand Maria Prinz von Hohenzollern and of Ilona Gräfin Kálnoky von Kőröspatak

6. Fidelis Prinz von Hohenzollern (2001), son of Ferdinand Maria Prinz von Hohenzollern and of Ilona Gräfin Kálnoky von Kőröspatak

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by MAfan

[... ] But why, instead, it was King Michael who stripped him of his title and succession rights? And why so suddenly? Why did they choose to act this way instead of a clearer, easier and more understandable way?

Because King Michael is the only authority to do so, as head of the Royal House.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Because King Michael is the only authority to do so, as head of the Royal House.

Under the old monarchical constitution, the King could have no more made his grandson a prince than he could have stripped Nicholas of the title five years later.

[LadyFinn]

Faced with the cryptic statement, Romanians speculated that a jealous relative had sought to edge Nicholas out of the succession.
Romania's a republic, but royal upset makes headline news

In case someone is interested, here you can read part of the book "The Road Home. Filip-Lucian Iorga In dialogue with Prince Nicholas of Romania"
The Road Home. Filip-Lucian Iorga In dialogue with Prince Nicholas of Romania - Prince of Romania Nicholas - Google-kirjat

[Benjamin]

Radio Monaco also mentions the rumours of a fall-out with Radu Duda:

Place Royale : surprise en Roumanie, le Roi Michel déshérite son petit-fils

[maria-olivia]

A agree with Duc, it is a wise Decusion of King Michael. Hard to do it when you are more than 90 years old.
He is a really great Royal .

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by MAfan

The more I think about this story and the more I am puzzled.
...
But why, instead, it was King Michael who stripped him of his title and succession rights? And why so suddenly? Why did they choose to act this way instead of a clearer, easier and more understandable way?

The 94 year old King is apparently acting under the advice of a "Crown Council" that no one had heard about until this took place.

FOTO Ziua excluderii Principelui Nicolae. Cine au fost sfatuitorii Regelui Mihai si ce cauta acolo Mihnea Constantinescu, fost consilier pe langa patru premieri - Esential - HotNews.ro

[LadyFinn]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

The 94 year old King is apparently acting under the advice of a "Crown Council" that no one had heard about until this took place.

FOTO Ziua excluderii Principelui Nicolae. Cine au fost sfatuitorii Regelui Mihai si ce cauta acolo Mihnea Constantinescu, fost consilier pe langa patru premieri - Esential - HotNews.ro

The translation tells me that Nicholas was abroad at a planned trip when the decision was made.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Now it is interesting what will happen with the Royal House of Romania.

The whole move by King Michael shows how tricky it is to change rules overnight. The King unilaterally changed the line of succession and made his daughters successors to the throne of Romania.

Then he removed a daughter from her royal birthright because she did something with cockfights, an absurd reason for removing someone's birthright - and that of her children. Now a son from his second eldest daughter, the Number Three in his renewed line of succession basically says: "Hmmm, no..., this is nothing for me" and it leaves King Michael as an amateur making ill-thought decisions.

As long as the monarchy was just theory, the King should simply have respected the Constitution he solemnly pledged to maintain and to protect with his life and leave the succession as it is. As I understood it correctly, Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth-Mills was made HRH Prince Nicolae of Romania but his sister became no Princess. She remained Elizabeth de Roumanie Medforth-Mills and stayed out of the public eye. What now? Making Karina a Princess? Or making her cousin Elizabeth de Roumanie Biarneix a Princess now?

I think Princess Margarita will re-instate the original line of succession (Hohenzollern). Her father can not do this without painfully losing his face. But what disappointed me most: even if we accept that the King has the right to change the rules, even unilaterally, the idea that Princess Margarita now can "choose a Heir" is so against the whole principle. If a head of a royal dynasty can decide about the claim on a throne purely based on his/her own will, this is an absolutist system and has nothing anymore to do with a proper, constitutional and functioning monarchy (in exile).

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Now a son from his second eldest daughter, the Number Three in his renewed line of succession basically says: "Hmmm, no..., this is nothing for me" and it leaves King Michael as an amateur making ill-thought decisions.

If you read any of the informations posted about this development, you will learn that Nicholas had nothing to do with the loss of his title and style.

The King, with the aid of a Royal Council and in the presence of his eldest daughter and son-in-law who were visiting him in Switzerland, made the decision to remove the popular Nicholas from the line of succession.

Nicholas was travelling and was neither in Switzerland or Romania at the time.

[Royalotta]

Whatever the truth (and I doubt we'll ever find out what really occurred here), in recent years the Romanian people seemed to be warming to the idea of constitutional monarchy and to the proposed incumbents. Now the King has shattered that with one signature. And frankly, I think it's tainted his legacy.

[Duc_et_Pair]

On another royal forum the excellent contributor Guy Stair Stainty has worded it excellently:

So this sorry episode descends further into farce; having drawn up a wholly imaginary "line of succession" "Crown" Princess Margarita is to be able to select an heir to the throne! As if the Romanian crown was some bauble to be tossed around like a tennis ball at the will of family members.

Whatever is the point of a monarchy that has such disregard to the law, for the people it is supposed to serve and for the future? I am criticised for having the temerity to argue that the King should be the most stalwart defender of the law, particularly the law that gave him the throne in the first place - but what more do we expect of a sovereign?

If a sovereign does not respect the law, then he or she becomes a despot - the canonist and chaplain to Louis XIV (later Bishop of Clermont) Jean-Baptiste Massillon (1663-1742) told his royal master “it is not the sovereign, it is the law Sire, that reigns over peoples. You are only its minister and the first depository of it.”