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Crown Princess Margarita and Prince Radu news and current events part 2 (2016-)
Welcome to part 2 of the thread for the current events of and news about
HRH Crown Princess Margarita of Romania and
HRH Prince Radu of Romania
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03-01-2016, 12:30 PM
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Crown princess Margarita and prince Radu have not had many work events at the beginning of this year.
Now, on 1st and 2nd March, they attend at the fifth meeting of the Royal Council in Aubonne in Switzerland.
The Royal Council was re-established by His Majesty King Michael, through a decree signed on 1 October 2010, in order to be a consultative organ to help, "through it's tips and resolutions, the head of the Royal family in his decisions on current or historical, legal, economic and financial, political and dynastic matters".
Members of the Royal Council are Crown Princess Margarita, prince Radu, prince Lorenz of Belgium, Mr. Andrew Popper, head of the House of his Majesty the King, Adrian Vasiliu, Dr. Jonathan Eyal, Mr. Guy Pochelon, Mr Anders Lindberg and Dr. Anneli Ute Gabany. Council Secretary is Ioan-Luca Vlad, Honorary private Advisor to the Royal family.
The meeting agenda includes points concerning the smooth running of the Royal House, this year dedicated to the celebration of 150 years since the founding of the Royal House and the modern Romanian State, as well as issues related to the future.
At the end of the session, the Press Office of His Majesty King Michael will release a message from the Royal Council.
Sesiunea Consiliului Regal în Elveția _ Familia Regală a României _ Royal Family of Romania
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03-01-2016, 01:33 PM
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Was at least the former Monarch present at this meeting?
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03-15-2016, 06:32 AM
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Now Princess Margareta calls herself "Custodian of the Crown", a term that has never existed in any Romanian Constitution.
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She calls herself "Custodian of the Crown", because king Michael launched that term at his statement
"I am confident that my daughter, Margareta, the Custodian of the Crown, will find the wisdom and the strength to represent me and to fulfil all my public activities."
Message of His Majesty the King,1 March 2016 _ Familia Regală a României _ Royal Family of Romania
Prince Radu attended on Monday at the funeral of Iolandei Balaș-Söter, Romanian athlete, an Olympic champion and former world record holder in the women's high jump.
Familia Regală a adus un ultim omagiu Iolandei Balaș _ Familia Regală a României _ Royal Family of Romania
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03-15-2016, 06:49 AM
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This terminology does not simplyexist in any of the Romanian Constitutions and the King has never used such terminology before 2007.
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Maybe King Michael launched the title because he knows that some object to Margarita having an official status as a heir until his proposed changes to the succession is approved by the parliament as he himself asked them to?
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03-15-2016, 08:21 AM
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Maybe King Michael launched the title because he knows that some object to Margarita having an official status as a heir until his proposed changes to the succession is approved by the parliament as he himself asked them to?
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It has no constitutional status, Romania being a republic, but His Majesty conferred the title and role on his eldest daughter in 2007. Long may she continue to bring honour to the crown.
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03-15-2016, 08:41 AM
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It has no constitutional status, Romania being a republic, but His Majesty conferred the title and role on his eldest daughter in 2007. Long may she continue to bring honour to the crown.
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Hear, hear.
'Custodian of the Crown' is indeed a very apt and descriptive title, that holds a lot of meaning for what it serves to do. The Crown Princess is the representative of the family onwards, and after the demise of the King, will continue to be the figurehead of the dynasty and the traditions of the Crown in Romania.
The King has made it clear that he wishes that Romania will be represented by a modern and equal Royal Family, and it makes perfect sense to make the decisions he has made. The politicians are still free to make their choices in the event of a restoration, but until then, it is highly logical that he makes sure his family has proper representation during and after his time.
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03-15-2016, 10:36 AM
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A "modern and equal family" that does not respect freedom of conscience?
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You have chosen your version of what is 'respect' to you. In my book, the King has made wise choices for the future, and it is good to see the Crown Princess, Custodian of the Crown, act in the best interests of the Royal Family and the future of the dynasty. Whether that translates into actual systemic change in Romania remains to be seen, but there is one Royal Family and one line of representatives, and it begins with the Crown Princess.
It's good to see her carrying that responsibility during these days of hardship for the King, and her dignity should be lauded by those sympathetic to the greater cause of monarchy.
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03-15-2016, 10:51 AM
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Romania is a republic and there is not such a thing like a "Crown Princess" anyway. The future of the country has nothing to do with the games of a list that has nothing to do with the constitutional past of the country and changes too often to be really taken into cosideration. Everybody is free to invent "new titles" that are not legally recognized anyway.
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The one who is free to create titles is the head of the Royal Family, and in this case, the former reigning King is still alive and has made a clear choice as to titles. You might want to have a look into your inconsistencies with regards to accepting titles, as you have no issue with them when it comes to other former Royal Houses in Europe, ie your posts on the Italian and Russian forums, but the Romanian Royal Family seems to enjoy constant abuse. I am willing to bet everything I own on the fact that if the King had a son, you would call him Crown Prince and heir to the throne without hesitation, and this is where the inconsistency and ridiculousness lie.
The King has encouraged parliament to update laws of succession to be in line with every other monarchy in Europe, to no protest from those in the defunct line of succession from 80 years ago. The King is also free to hand out titles as he sees fit, and that is what he has done. If you don't accept that, then I recommend not accepting Serbian, Bulgarian, Italian, Austrian, German .. (how long this list could be) titles as well, for consistency and credibility.
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03-15-2016, 11:06 AM
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A "modern and equal family" that does not respect freedom of conscience?
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That is a very serious accusation. Would you care to state precisely and explicitly the facts that support it? If not, you should consider retracting the statement.
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03-15-2016, 12:24 PM
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What you do not understand is that in other European cases all the titles respect the last royal Constitution of that country while this is not the case for Romania.
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Once again you ignore questions raised following your dubious and unjustified claims towards the Romanian Royal Family, and continue to make statements as to what I do and do not understand. You might want to get out of that habit, as it is both rude and not conducive to the debating climate on these forum threads.
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03-15-2016, 01:43 PM
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Time to move on please. As previously stated, this thread is about news and the current events of Crown Princess Margarita and Prince Radu. Further off-topic posts will be deleted without notice.
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03-16-2016, 01:10 PM
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"Her Royal Highness Crown Princess Margareta, Custodian of the Crown, was received today at Cotroceni Palace by His Excellency Mr Klaus Werner Johannis, President of Romania.
The President conveyed once again his best wishes to His Majesty King Michael I. Her Royal Highness and the President discussed issues related to the Royal Family’s public activity in the country and abroad. They also discussed aspects related to the co-operation between the Romanian authorities and the Romanian Crown, now and in the future."
The Custodian of the Crown, meeting with the President of Romania | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania
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03-16-2016, 02:58 PM
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Thanks for the update, Benjamin - I find it heartening that Crown Princess Margarita has now met both the Prime Minister and the President of Romania these last few days.
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03-16-2016, 04:02 PM
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Thanks for the update, Benjamin - I find it heartening that Crown Princess Margarita has now met both the Prime Minister and the President of Romania these last few days.
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Me, too. Clearly there's a lot to be discussed, covering the short, medium and longer term.
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03-18-2016, 09:21 AM
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Congratulations to her on a well-deserved accolade. From the Romanian Red Cross, through her encouragement and showcasing of artistic talent, education & training initiatives to her work for the underprivileged - both old and young - she makes an invaluable contribution to society and with great compassion, respect, dignity and style.
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