Danish State Visit to Germany: November 10-13, 2021


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Duc_et_Pair said:
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But here the constitutional power is not even in hands of the monarch or a hereditary successor. No, it is given to a non-Danish born Tasmanian whom happens to be married into the royal family. That she is given the reins of state goes pretty far.
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But she is given it only for a few days. In your own Monarchy when the present King would have died before his oldest daughter would have turned 18 you would have gone to an argentinian born woman as Regent for her. And you also had a german born woman acting as Regent for her daughter for 8 years.
 
Duc_et_Pair said:
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It goes pretty far when you analyse it. Not only is Denmark a monarchy, where the head of state is determined by hereditary succession. Soit. So be it. The Danes have no say in it, as also people in 7 more European countries and some city-states.

But here the constitutional power is not even in hands of the monarch or a hereditary successor. No, it is given to a non-Danish born Tasmanian whom happens to be married into the royal family. That she is given the reins of state goes pretty far.

But okay, apparently the Danes are happy with it. In most monarchies the King, and the King only, can execute the (theoretical) royal privilege unless a Regent is appointed (which is not an easy procedure in most monarchies.)

Well, I wish Mary (and the Danes) calm and peaceful days as Rigsforstander.
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According to all polls and myself, we are indeed happy with Mary as Rigsforstander.
She (and Queen Ingrid with whom she is so often compared) has earned the trust and confidence of not only QMII but also the politicians. There is no way Mary would be appointed Rigsforstander if the politicians didn't have faith in her. That may IMO very well not have been the case with PH.

Even critics of Frederik, and there are still quite a few around, are delighted that Mary is there and exercise the influence she does. (I refer off hand to a recent article in BT by Ditte Okmann - a professional opinion-maker.)
It's a question of being practical. Mary is there, she can fulfill the task (also in the worst case scenario) being a very experienced senior royal, - use her.

As for Mary being a Hobart commoner, that doesn't hold water.
Mary is the Crown Princess, a very experienced and trusted senior royal. She has lived half her adult life as a high ranking royal - it's natural to her now.
Anyway, QMII can appoint anyone (provided a few criteria are met) to be Rigsforstander, also from outside the DRF. If I was a member of the State Church, she could in theory appoint me. - Even before Joachim. - And there is very little, if any, blue blood in me. - My family appears to have been peasants since the glaciers retreated...

The Regent is always the Heir.
But the Rigsforstander is someone who is experienced and trusted enough to fulfill the task, preferably from within the DRF.
 
Stefan said:
But she is given it only for a few days. In your own Monarchy when the present King would have died before his oldest daughter would have turned 18 you would have gone to an argentinian born woman as Regent for her. And you also had a german born woman acting as Regent for her daughter for 8 years.
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The two Houses of Parliament have to assemble in a special joint session, to read and debate a Bill on the appointment of a Regent and have to approve it with a 2/3rd majority. That Regent is double tied by A - the Cabinet and B - a Regency Council which has to approve and consent all acts of the Regent as they are the guardians of the minor King. So there is a democratic mandate first and a strict control second. I think it is not comparable.
 
Some wonderful photos from the first busy day.
https://www.facebook.com/detdanskekongehus/posts/450195963144953

https://twitter.com/x/status/1458424634676813824
https://twitter.com/x/status/1458426843233722369

Frederik is just charming to all
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...a-slottet-dronningen-og-frederik-nyder-berlin
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...i-berlin-her-er-oejeblikket-de-aldrig-glemmer

Great photo of the two, Queen and heir
https://content.invisioncic.com/r38...humb.jpg.5a0d6dd0fe3400479d852e28aa54fbab.jpg

gallery
https://app.tt.se/bild/q=DRONNING MARGRETHE, KRONPRINS FREDERIK

https://twitter.com/x/status/1458468244193484802

I couldn't imagine the Queen greeting with a fist bump lol
https://www.bt.dk/royale/historiske-billeder-kronprinsen-og-dronningen-til-frokost-hos-angela-merkel
 
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I suppose it's mandatory to wear masks indoors in Germany?

QMII and Frederik are of course not going to Germany to enjoy the view.
As with most things in life it's about money. Because this is QMII's second state visit to Germany, normally you go for a state visit to a given country once during a reign. But the only purpose of rules is to bend them...

Germany is the largest export market, with countries like China, Sweden, USA at the top and now to a lesser degree UK.
So this visit is very much to show the flag, help Danish commerce and especially to cement the good relations between DK and Germany.

Because after Brexit and with a trade war and/or a hard Brexit looming in the horizon that's important, because UK was the 5th largest export market for Danish products, not least agricultural products like pork.
So since 2016 in anticipation of the worst case scenario for Danish export to Britain, other markets have been cultivated heavily. China in particular, but also Korea and Japan have replaced Britain as major export markets for poultry, dairy and and pork, especially China, who would buy our entire production of pork if they could! So there is a big interest in increasing the export to Germany.
Germany on the other hand is interested in Danish know how, especially in regards to IT-infrastructure where DK is up front and Germany intends to improve their IT infrastructure massively, since they discovered that they were hopelessly behind during the lockdowns in connection with Corona.

So I am certain we can expect a follow up visit within a couple of years, probably involving M&F, to promote additional Danish export within the sectors the Germans are most interested in, and for the signing of the final contracts in the background. - That's pretty typical for Danish commerce offensives headed by the DRF.
 
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Nice photos of Frederik
https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/n...rk-arrives-for-the-nachrichtenfoto/1352482930
https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/n...rk-arrives-for-the-nachrichtenfoto/1352482928
https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/n...-visits-the-berlin-nachrichtenfoto/1236478474

Even in a hard hat and yellow safety vest: https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/n...its-the-vattenfall-nachrichtenfoto/1352442308

Frederik looks wonderful in a tux. Very handsome indeed. His suit from earlier in the day was also very nice.

https://app.tt.se/bildobjekt/image/sdl_FObNDWcNiI
https://app.tt.se/bildobjekt/image/sdleVx8YTfbT3k

More great photos of Frederik from the state dinner
https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/n...nd-first-lady-elke-nachrichtenfoto/1236483079
https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/n...rk-attends-a-state-nachrichtenfoto/1236483423
https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/n...nd-first-lady-elke-nachrichtenfoto/1236483201
https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/n...rk-attends-a-state-nachrichtenfoto/1236483175

Speech from dinner
https://www.kongehuset.dk/nyheder/hm-dronningens-tale-ved-statsbanketten-i-berlin

Frederik arriving at dinner:
https://app.tt.se/bildobjekt/image/sdl4i8jn1qwVCU
https://app.tt.se/bildobjekt/image/sdleBq4yn8QEsU

Another great photo of Frederik at the dinner
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.ne...=b505702f979c6ff6b15d0378acf24f14&oe=61917848

https://app.tt.se/bild/q=DRONNING MARGRETHE, KRONPRINS FREDERIK

Photos.

Frederik looks wonderful.

Video of speech at dinner

https://www.bt.dk/royale/bt-i-berli...isk-tale-i-tyskland-alt-har-ikke-altid-vaeret
 
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Muhler said:
I suppose it's mandatory to wear masks indoors in Germany?

QMII and Frederik are of course not going to Germany to enjoy the view.
As with most things in life it's about money. Because this is QMII's second state visit to Germany, normally you go for a state visit to a given country once during a reign. But the only purpose of rules is to bend them...

Germany is the largest export market, with countries like China, Sweden, USA at the top and now to a lesser degree UK.
So this visit is very much to show the flag, help Danish commerce and especially to cement the good relations between DK and Germany.

Because after Brexit and with a trade war and/or a hard Brexit looming in the horizon that's important, because UK was the 5th largest export market for Danish products, not least agricultural products like pork.
So since 2016 in anticipation of the worst case scenario for Danish export to Britain, other markets have been cultivated heavily. China in particular, but also Korea and Japan have replaced Britain as major export markets for poultry, dairy and and pork, especially China, who would buy our entire production of pork if they could! So there is a big interest in increasing the export to Germany.
Germany on the other hand is interested in Danish know how, especially in regards to IT-infrastructure where DK is up front and Germany intends to improve their IT infrastructure massively, since they discovered that they were hopelessly behind during the lockdowns in connection with Corona.

So I am certain we can expect a follow up visit within a couple of years, probably involving M&F, to promote additional Danish export within the sectors the Germans are most interested in, and for the signing of the final contracts in the background. - That's pretty typical for Danish commerce offensives headed by the DRF.
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Thanks! And China, Japan and Korea have been visited semi recently by Frederik and Mary. :flowers:

Im sure the Queen and Frederik are enjoying the visit together, some sweet pictures
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...rne-af-kronprinsen-og-dronningen-ved-saerligt
https://www.bt.dk/royale/bt-i-berli...ns-frederik-jeg-synes-han-svarer-vaeldig-godt

https://twitter.com/x/status/1458499221959622661

The gala tonight. The Queen looks so good! And Frederik in a tux very handsome
https://content.invisioncic.com/r38...humb.jpg.cdbfbff042e4d82f41e6d77819ada98e.jpg
https://media.gettyimages.com/photo...al-president-picture-id1236482072?s=2048x2048
https://media.gettyimages.com/photo...-in-bellevue-picture-id1236482378?s=2048x2048
 
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Nice to see the Prussian tiara on HM, rather suitable in Berlin and even more so in Bellevue. A previous inhabitant of the castle was Dss Alexandrine of Mecklenburg, née Pss of Prussia. Via her mother Princess Marianne of the Netherlands she became the owner of the other & identical pearl poiré tiara.
 
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Stefan said:
Somehow the central pearl on the brooch got lost between the arrival of the Queen and the Defilee.
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Very well spotted. Hopefully they noticed it in time and didn't (permanently) loose it.
 
HM look's wonderful in emerald green with the matched the pearl parure . Of course having such a handsome escort can not be a bad thing . Sigh
 
I really hope they found that centre pearl in time. Looks like it was lost during the very short period between them posing at the bottom of the staircase and entering the room
 
Daisy has mysteries wherever she goes lately. Hopefully it ended up in her hair? Or was at least found quite quickly.
 
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The wearing of the Pearl Poiré Diadem in Berlin was a good choice, after all it is where this very diadem originated.
 
Day 2 today, November 11:


** kongehuset gallery: Statsbesøg i Tyskland - dag 2 **

A copy of her speech in English at the conference today:

** kongehuset: H.M. Dronningens tale ved åbningen af erhvervskonferencen i Berlin **


** profimedia gallery ** rex gallery * * ppe gallery **


** gettyimages: DEU: Queen Margrethe Of Denmark And Crown Prince Frederik Visit Germany - Day 2 **


The state banquet that was planned for tomorrow evening in Munich has been cancelled by Bavaria's Prime Minister Markus Söder following the rising corona numbers in Germany.
 
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Yes, I understand the situation in Bavaria is very serious and I glimpsed a headline saying saying state of emergency?
 
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelige/danmark/galant-frederik-hjalp-sin-mor-med-pudsig-udfordring

BB article with video showing Frederik physically having to pull his mother back by the arm to greet people she had just walked past. And a bit of struggle with her mask and hearing aid.

Photos of Frederik - Day 2

https://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/u...speaks-during-the-danish-uutiskuva/1352623744
https://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/u...speaks-during-the-danish-uutiskuva/1352623723
https://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/u...speaks-during-the-danish-uutiskuva/1352623656

Wonder what caused this reaction - https://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/u...-danish-foreign-minister-uutiskuva/1352655330

https://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/u...-danish-foreign-minister-uutiskuva/1352655357

https://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/u...mark-and-danish-cultural-uutiskuva/1352698087
https://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/u...ttends-the-launch-of-the-uutiskuva/1352697935

And I am sure he's earned this: https://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/u...nks-a-beer-as-he-attends-uutiskuva/1352697847
 
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Such a joy seeing the two together. I think they appreciate the time.

Frederik at the Architecture Forum
https://twitter.com/x/status/1458830689223200777

Focus at today's sector seminar at #danishstatevisit2021 was on specific Danish and German sustainable agriculture and food products and solutions with a focus on how they can benefit each other’s businesses so that we together can contribute to the green transition
https://twitter.com/x/status/1458820413589491716

music venue
https://twitter.com/x/status/1458835565642723333

51 Danish companies are currently promoting Danish solutions within green conversion, food, digitalisation and health technology in the German capital Berlin. ⁣
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The major business promotion takes place in connection with the Danish state visit to neighboring Germany, to which Danish companies annually export goods worth around DKK 144 billion. ⁣
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This morning, Her Majesty the Queen officially opened the Danish-German business promotion, which will be held in the Kosmos building. Subsequently, His Royal Highness the Crown Prince participated in a number of associated activities. Among other things, the Crown Prince gave a speech, participated in a cross sectional seminar, after which the Crown Prince visited the three sector tracks: the energy track, the health track and the food track. His Royal Highness finally attended the opening of a food seminar. Annually, Danish companies export food to Germany for more than DKK 23 billion a year, which corresponds to 16 percent of total exports to Germany.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWIoZvnAf0E/
 
BT has the details on the hearing aide incident.

https://www.bt.dk/royale/bt-i-berlin-kronprins-frederik-med-soed-gestus-men-mor-afviser-vi-har-ingen

While his mother struggled with replacing her hearing aide, Frederik quietly offered: "Shall I stand in front of you?" (Skal jeg stå foran dig lidt?) - In order to shield her from the photographers.
To which QMII responded: "We have no secrets here." (Vi har ingen hemmeligheder her.)

Also in regards to her walking past people she was supposed to greet.
She's 81, she's allowed to lose sight for a moment, and perhaps being slightly confused. - So many faces, so much activity, so many impressions to deal with.
- It sure would unsettle me from time to time!
 
:previous: thanks, Love the Queen's attitude and Frederik trying to discreetly help.

Last event of the day, another gala
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...derik-dronningen-straaler-i-fortryllende-stil
https://media.gettyimages.com/photo...r-steinmeier-picture-id1236501639?s=2048x2048
https://twitter.com/x/status/1458856606897250310

For His Royal Highness the Crown Prince, it has been a versatile day in the German capital Berlin. ⁣
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In addition to having participated in and given a speech at the Danish-German business promotion that takes place in connection with the state visit, the Crown Prince has also visited an exhibition space for international dissemination of modern architecture and urban design as well as a music venue in the Kreuzberg district. ⁣
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At the AEDES Architecture Forum, which is a world-renowned, independent institution, His Royal Highness was told about the forms of housing of the future. In addition, the Crown Prince was shown around two current exhibitions and attended a seminar on that occasion. Later in the day, the Crown Prince visited the music venue Festsaal Kreuzberg. The visit formed the framework for the launch of "NEUSTART", which is a new initiative for modern, Danish music on the German market in 2022. In connection with the visit, His Royal Highness attended a number of speeches from, among others, Minister of Culture Ane Halsboe-Jørgensen and musical elements.

https://www.facebook.com/detdanskekongehus/posts/451124376385445
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWJbPHOg052/

From this Frederik goes home, he is Regent from the 12th to the 15th. On Monday there is an official public audience
 
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Muhler said:
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Yes, I understand the situation in Bavaria is very serious and I glimpsed a headline saying saying state of emergency?
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That is absolutely true. Yesterday our Ministerpräsident told that the state of emergency is activated.

Tomorrow a friend of me and I wanted to attend the official welcome ceremony in front of the Residenz in Munich but the ceremony is now without onlookers. I am very sad about it but see the reasons for the cancelling. Now my friend and I will travel to Munich and have a nice day with strolling there.
 
I only wished we had a few more videos other than those short clips from Billed Bladet... Luckily there are plenty of videos from the dutch-norwegian st. visit!
 
wartenberg7 said:
I only wished we had a few more videos other than those short clips from Billed Bladet... Luckily there are plenty of videos from the dutch-norwegian st. visit!
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Yes, there is a lack of video from the engagements. More still photos. When M&F do visits there are more videos and sound bites because they stop to answer questions from BB or BT at events on the spot so there is more live video of arrivals, departures, etc. This visit has been more photo coverage of the events.
 
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I only wished we had a few more videos other than those short clips from Billed Bladet... Luckily there are plenty of videos from the dutch-norwegian st. visit!
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This has actually been well-covered by the main TV news, so there should be a number of videos.

I suggest our newsdiggers check out tv2.dk and dr.dk.

The focus on TV2 news tonight was a museum about the German refugees fleeing in particular the Soviet army at the end of WWII.
Several hundred thousands sought refuge in DK and as such a museum has been build in DK to cover this little knows and to this day still sensitive subject.
But as this is also German history, Germany has help fund the museum.
- A kind of bridge-building and strengthening mutual relationships through common history.
We in DK have become pretty unsentimental in regards to our history, also the WWII history, as the WWII generation has grown old and dying off, and in a number of cases wish to put the record straight.
That is both in regards to positive events in regards to what happened during WWII, but also the negative things that were either glossed over or hidden away.
I think that's a healthy approach. Studying, learning and reflecting based on hard facts, albeit sometimes unpleasant, is IMO always preferable.
The Germans are just as unsentimental and frank about their history, so I think quite a lot of Germans might wish to visit that museum.
 
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