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06-15-2007, 11:47 AM
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I think it's highly unfair and incredibly presumptous that you are making such assumptions about posters' motivations without even asking them.
Moreover it sounds like a very weak argument to me considering the huge numbers of commoner princesses these days.
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but what tamarakhan says is true...and it's not a weak argument, it's just a fact.
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06-15-2007, 11:51 AM
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No it's not a fact, it's an opinion. Moreover it's her own interpretation of what others think.
After all, plenty of people have given reasons for not liking Salma or for ways in which she could improve. Not one gives any of the reasons TamaraKhan states.
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06-15-2007, 03:32 PM
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I think it is time to take a break to have a look at the TRF Community Rules, and particularly this one:
Insulting comments about other posters and royals are not permitted. Criticism is acceptable; insults and flames are not. We expect our members to treat each other with respect.
We are all entitled to express our opinions as long as it done within the confines of the rules and guideline. We can disagree as long as it is done politely and respecfully.
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06-16-2007, 09:47 PM
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I personally like Princess Lalla Salma, not for what she will wear or so,but for her real person as a brillant moroccan woman who had brillant career and who came from true moroccan society and from a modest family.
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there are people here Moroccan or of Moroccan origin.....say that Salma BENNANI comes from "deep Morocco" or of a modest family..... is really not serious... is even laughing it is a girl who comes from the Upper middle classes BENNANI whose family with always revolved goshawks of the Royal Palace and whose cousin is a close friend of Mohammed VI.
she is appreciated or not appreciated at all, it is a fact but to say that it results from the people and modest it is false.....and also her studies and her careers (very sublimated in the official biography)do not have anything exceptional in the middle class medium of her family
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05-28-2008, 08:05 AM
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Salma don't seem to will be more active with time, if I have to make a comparison I think that she has a lower role than Meryem, this one has her association for children, and she is in more the leader of Moroccan woman association, she is goodwill ambassador of UNESCO, she is the leader of social work of the Moroccan army in the beginning it was so new to see the wife of the king, and she was so young, that, all eyes were focused on her, now, she is older, and since she doesn't make incredible things, she became a princess among others
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02-09-2009, 10:58 AM
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by the way, we have seen hasna and meryem with m6 on state visits, but right now never with salma. do you believe this same protocole doesn't allow king's wife to be with him on such trips?
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02-09-2009, 11:04 AM
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i don't think it's matter of protocole Zineb,i think the chance didn't come,M6 him self didn't travel for a state visit or an official visit for while now,so let's wait tell that happen and we will see
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02-09-2009, 11:26 AM
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i don't think it's matter of protocole Zineb,i think the chance didn't come,M6 him self didn't travel for a state visit or an official visit for while now,so let's wait tell that happen and we will see 
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i'm not sure either if it's the protocole, but since it didn't happen yet, so i'm asking if it's the protocole or not.
however, i don't think because salma didn't have the chance. m6 paid many state visits since he is married, to latin america, japan, senegal, and so and salma wasn't with him. imo these were great opportunities for her. i wonder if m6 wasn't married, one of his sisters could accompany him. sure, we will see what happen in the future.
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02-09-2009, 11:32 AM
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yes i know he go for some visits after his marriage and Lalla Salma didn't go neither his sisters so i geuss she naturaly supposed to go but maybe was not ready then,so let's wait to see for the next visits to start speculation as we are not sur of anythings
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02-09-2009, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mademoiselle Lilo
yes i know he go for some visits after his marriage and Lalla Salma didn't go neither his sisters so i geuss she naturaly supposed to go but maybe was not ready then,so let's wait to see for the next visits to start speculation as we are not sur of anythings 
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well, you didn't get it right mlle lilo. these are not speculations, they are observations and stating a point of view. imo, it's not because we aren't sure of anything, we don't have to ask questions and build our opinion. if ppl can't ask questions, the world couldn't be as it is now and see progress of sociology, scientific knowledge, etc. now we are not discussing a huge state matter  7 years of marriage and couple of visits, are enough to ask why salma was never with m6 on official visits. you know, i don't expect you will find an answer on these questions somewhere  so it's better to have an opinion.
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02-09-2009, 11:55 AM
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well you did get my post all wrong Zineb,it's just my opinion and the way i see the thing nothing else,i don't have to give answres or find answers to anythings or in the place of anybody.
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02-09-2009, 01:20 PM
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it's just my opinion and the way i see the thing nothing else,i don't have to give answres or find answers to enythings or in the place of anybody.
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i respect that lilo  hopefully ppl are different
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02-09-2009, 03:00 PM
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Now that you mentioned it, zineb, it is a little strange that Salma hasn't accompanied her husband on trips abroad.
Hoepfully this is something she will undertake in the future.
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02-09-2009, 03:53 PM
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Lalla salma did accompanied her husband abroa, France I guess,not state visits yet but I think she will go with him anyay,M.Lilo point is right M6 himself don't travel alot lately.
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02-09-2009, 04:05 PM
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i hope she will in the future, even i'm not sure. anyway we will see.
but the question is why salma wasn't with him in the few trips he made, while his sisters were?
some answers say that salma wasn't ready. i personally can't get it really, since she was in japan only months b4 M6 state visit, and she paid also a visit to senegal , when in fact she could accompany her husband who has been there. i can't see why she was ready to travel alone all around the world, while she can't be beside her husband on official visits
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02-09-2009, 04:14 PM
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It does seem strange that Salma has made solo foreign trips and not travelled with her husband.
However, it's possible that they may not wish to leave their children alone in Morocco while they are both abroad. Although that's just a guess on my part.
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02-09-2009, 04:14 PM
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Maybe she can't go because of her children?
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02-09-2009, 04:15 PM
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nobody know the real reasons and questions of why she didn't went with him is understood,but I am sur is questions of right time and agenda of the couple,during his state visit to Japan Lalla Salma had to stay in Morocco cause in same time she lunch her social works(association Lalla Salma).
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It does seem strange that Salma has made solo foreign trips and not travelled with her husband.
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most of her solo trips come after her husband seems to set down and not to travel alot,just look at king official visits in 2008 none,2007 just one and for meeting in Senegal,same for 2006...obiouvsly she travel more than him so I guess it's just quetion of time and agenda.
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02-09-2009, 04:30 PM
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yes, maybe because of their children, but many royal couples have children and yet they go for official trips. i guess it isn't difficult that children accompany their parents. but probably salma prefers to stay with them. anyway, it's RARE that a president or a monarch goes for state visit without his wife 
and the fact that salma launched her association at the time of m6 trip to japan, i don't know if her agenda was very full all the year that she couldn't make herself available for this trip with him and launch her association b4 or later. the whole trip took only 3 days. you know, we hear a lot why m6 don't go for some arabic and african meetings bcz his agenda is full of events in morocco 
ok, we are looking for that right time to see her with him. hope it comes
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02-09-2009, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by zineb
the fact that salma launched her association at the time of m6 trip to japan, i don't know if her agenda was very full all the year that she couldn't make herself available for this trip with him and launch her association b4 or later.
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her agenda wasn't full maybe but the ones who decide to join her in the association??
I don't think Lalla salma association is the only thing they have to do  .
anyway let's wait what will happen next in futur....
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