Death and Funeral of Prince Henrik of Denmark: February 13 and 20, 2018

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

Thanks Muhler!
Have we already seen pictures of Frederik, is he already able to walk (forgive my limited medical knowledge)

We haven't seen photos of Frederik and my knowledge about back surgery is (fortunately!) limited as well.
But I imagine the doctors would have ordered him out of bed and start working on his recovery as soon as at all possible. So I guess he was limping about no later than Wednesday. At least for a couple of hours.
Nowadays you have hardly woken up from the anesthesia before you are told to start moving!

[polyesco]

It's great that they were able to complete his last wishes discreetly and with the family together. Privacy was key but nice that they gave out a statement .

[Henrik]

Fyens.dk writes that on friday afternoon, CP Frederik, CP Mary, Prince Joachim and Princess Marie arrived at the harbour in Svendborg. Together with the Queen, they left Svendborg again on board Dannebrog.

So I suppose that Prince Henrik's ashes was scattered somewhere between Svendborg and Copenhagen.

https://www.fyens.dk/svendborg/Konge...rtikel/3283406

[Muhler]

Thank you, Eya.

That sounds very plausible. Especially since our Marie was on the job at Gråsten Saturday forenoon, more than two hours from Fredensborg.
It would be difficult for her to attend the ashes being spread from Dannebrog Saturday Morning, followed by the urn being buried at Fredensborg and then rush towards Gråsten afterwards. So Friday it was it seems.
Interestingly the children were not present.

Arriving at Dannebrog around and a little after 15.00 and allowing time to steam up they would have had some four hours before the sun set - at a top speed of IIRC 16 knots. So that means PH's ashes was spread in the arguably most idyllic sea for any sail-sportsman in Danish waters.

Here perhaps?
https://www.hk.dk/-/media/images/om-...6C66E71F89714F
Or here?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...lm%C3%B8.1.jpg

Here BTW is a view of Svendborg town:
https://wts-assets.triathlon.org/ode...fra_havnen.jpg

ADDED.

It is also an honor to bestow on the captain of Dannebrog on the last cruise with the DRF with him as captain. Who must have known PH pretty well.

[polyesco]

thank you Eya and Muhler, for the info and pictures.

Its lovely that the 5 gathered for this beautiful ceremony. The location looks lovely.

And nice to see Frederik back on his feet, I dont think he would miss this for anything.

Short video of the Dannebrog sailing from Svendborg . Looks like it was a beautiful day for them.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bnep--5l...ource=ig_embed

[Muhler]

It's a small harbor when she has to reverse out that much!

I notice there was a Navy Home Guard vessel nearby and what to me looked like a police rubber dinghy.

[An Ard Ri]

Looks like a lovely and peaceful spot for the ceremony!

[Nordic]

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri

Looks like a lovely and peaceful spot for the ceremony!

We don't actually know that the ceremony was there, do we?

"Here perhaps?
"Or here?"

I thought this was Muhler speculating as to where the ceremony might have taken place?

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Nordic

We don't actually know that the ceremony was there, do we?

"Here perhaps?
"Or here?"

I thought this was Muhler speculating as to where the ceremony might have taken place?

It was indeed only speculation.

All that was certain is: That for the scattering of the ashes to take place while there was still sunlight (I've never heard about a funeral not taking place during daytime.) it would have had to happen within a max distance of 4 X 16 knots from Svendborg town. And that means Dannebrog would at most have reached Storebælt. The strait dividing the islands of Funen and Zealand. And the route there is dotted with scenic islands, like the ones I showed a couple of photos of.
It's not the worst place to end up, and it sure is not the worst place to be remembered when the family come to this part of DK.

So you take a ruler and measure out 115 km from Svendborg on a map and within that area PH's ashes would have been spread. - Most likely on a rough course between Svendborg and Copenhagen. There are at least four routes she could have sailed.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vP9zpb8OC5...ysical-map.gif
And keep in mind that it is doubtful Dannebrog was going at full speed.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Muhler

It was indeed only speculation.

All that was certain is: That for the scattering of the ashes to take place while there was still sunlight (I've never heard about a funeral not taking place during daytime.) it would have had to happen within a max distance of 4 X 16 knots from Svendborg town. And that means Dannebrog would at most have reached Storebælt. The strait dividing the islands of Funen and Zealand. And the route there is dotted with scenic islands, like the ones I showed a couple of photos of.
It's not the worst place to end up, and it sure is not the worst place to be remembered when the family come to this part of DK.

So you take a ruler and measure out 115 km from Svendborg on a map and within that area PH's ashes would have been spread. - Most likely on a rough course between Svendborg and Copenhagen. There are at least four routes she could have sailed.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vP9zpb8OC5...ysical-map.gif
And keep in mind that it is doubtful Dannebrog was going at full speed.

Where would they normally leave the Dannebrog yo go to Fredensborg? Would that suggest they would have gone up north instead of sail south?

[HereditaryPrincess]

Svendborg looks like a beautiful little place; it must have been lovely sailing around the town.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Somebody

Where would they normally leave the Dannebrog yo go to Fredensborg? Would that suggest they would have gone up north instead of sail south?

Helsingør would be the natural place to disembark for Fredensborg. - You know, the town of Kronborg, Hamlet and all that.
The fastest route would IMO be sailing north up through Store Bælt, north across Zealand and enter Helsingør from the north.
If they were going to Copenhagen, the most natural route IMO would be south of Zealand.

[Muhler]

Map: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vP9zpb8OC...ysical-map.gif

Summary of article in Billed Bladet #37, 2018.
Written by Trine Larsen and Ulrik Ulriksen.

Having finished her summer cruise in the town of Svendborg QMII received M&F and J&M at Dannebrog shortly before noon, Friday.
The ship sailed and went the long, but very scenic route west from Svendborg and up north through Lille Belt, the narrow sound between Funen and Jutland. Then east, north of Funen and Zealand, arriving in Helsingør Saturday at 11.00.
At some point during the way PH's ashes was spread over the sea.

- My qualified guess says a short distance from Svendborg, somewhere among the many islands there. Because our Marie was to attend an event at Gråsten Saturday forenoon, so it's likely she (and perhaps Joachim) left the ship within a few hours after the ceremony.

At some point prior to the ceremony Friday, PH's urn was buried in the private garden at Fredensborg. - There is no mentioning of a stone marking the place, nor is there any mentioning as to when that took place and who were present.
However, BB clearly know something, but has seemingly chosen to respect the DRF wish about the details about the ceremonies being kept private. Because a caption mentions that Joachim and Marie were present when the urn was buried. (That's hardly surprising, but still.)

- The scans will be uploaded in the Flag Day thread, when I have scanned the mag.

Some photos for reflection.

As you all know PH suffered from dementia and that has raised the awareness of that dreadful affliction here in DK.
Most who suffer from dementia/Alzheimers want to "go home" at some point as these poignant photos illustrate: https://politiken.dk/fotografier/Fot...gerne-...-hjem
(The article may take time to load.)

Hence why so many, if not most, retirement homes here in DK have "bus stops", complete with benches.

Let us allow ourselves the selfish hope that no one near and dear to us ever get to this stage and beyond...

[eya]

A memorial concert will take place on 20 February for the Prince Henrik

Memorial concert for Prince Henrik in Fredensborg Palace Church | The Danish Monarchy - Front Page

[polyesco]

A nice gallery shared by the DRF of Henrik
Øjebliksbilleder | Kongehuset
Prins Henrik af Danmark | Kongehuset

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by eya

A memorial concert will take place on 20 February for the Prince Henrik

Memorial concert for Prince Henrik in Fredensborg Palace Church | The Danish Monarchy - Front Page

I'm glad that close friends of Prince Henrik are expected to attend. I understand that the sole friend at his funeral was sent as a representative of all of his friends, but the others will surely appreciate the opportunity to formally bid him farewell.

Originally Posted by polyesco

A nice gallery shared by the DRF of Henrik
Øjebliksbilleder | Kongehuset
Prins Henrik af Danmark | Kongehuset

A nice way to pay tribute to the prince.

Given that Prince Henrik was principally raised in Vietnam and that he was brought up speaking Vietnamese, it is notable that he was apparently perceived as simply a Frenchman by the Danes. Did he indeed lose his ties to Vietnam after he completed his education?

[Nordic]

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

I'm glad that close friends of Prince Henrik are expected to attend. I understand that the sole friend at his funeral was sent as a representative of all of his friends, but the others will surely appreciate the opportunity to formally bid him farewell.

They did have an opportunity to bid him farewell on the 19th of February last year when friends and patronages had been invited for a special event.

Castrum Doloris for særligt indbudte gæster | Kongehuset

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by Nordic

They did have an opportunity to bid him farewell on the 19th of February last year when friends and patronages had been invited for a special event.

Castrum Doloris for særligt indbudte gæster | Kongehuset

Thank you, that is an appropriately meaningful memorial indeed. It is a relief to have been wrong regarding the inclusion of his friends.

[JR76]

Originally Posted by Nordic

They did have an opportunity to bid him farewell on the 19th of February last year when friends and patronages had been invited for a special event.

Castrum Doloris for særligt indbudte gæster | Kongehuset

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

Thank you, that is an appropriately meaningful memorial indeed. It is a relief to have been wrong regarding the inclusion of his friends. [emoji2]

I was outside the church during the memorial ceremony and paid my respects before the castrum doloris afterwards. It was very dignified and very grand.

[Moonmaiden23]

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

I'm glad that close friends of Prince Henrik are expected to attend. I understand that the sole friend at his funeral was sent as a representative of all of his friends, but the others will surely appreciate the opportunity to formally bid him farewell.



A nice way to pay tribute to the prince.

Given that Prince Henrik was principally raised in Vietnam and that he was brought up speaking Vietnamese, it is notable that he was apparently perceived as simply a Frenchman by the Danes. Did he indeed lose his ties to Vietnam after he completed his education?

Since Vietnam was a French colony during the period of Henrik's childhood, it is more likely that he grew up with French as his primary language and learned to speak Vietnamese as well...particularly as French was the language of the upper classes in colonial Vietnam.

Maybe that is why he was always perceived as principally a Frenchman. He was part of the large group of French expatriate aristocrats living in Southeast Asia.