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Old 03-18-2021, 10:33 AM
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And I suspect that she has realised that Harry aint got a clue about making money and will just sit there and hope for something to happen... so that she has to do something to bring in teh dough.. But still to trash the RF, when Charles may be teh only one who will save their bacon financially, is not very smart....
I have been assuming they didn't get paid for the interview or if they did, it wouldn't have been much versus what Oprah and CBS made. If they had been smart, they would have arranged to produce the interview for Netflix.
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Old 03-18-2021, 10:39 AM
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Meghan was asking for help, so it wouldn't have been a matter of forcing her to get therapy or medication. She didn't know where to go, which is fair enough. Harry, on the other hand, should not have needed his family or HR to help him find a counselor. After the second or third day of coming home to find his wife crying, he should have called the person who helped him (don't know if it was therapy or drugs) and asked for a referral. It's not rocket science.



Thank you for sharing your experience. I hope that things have improved for you. I have also taken antidepressants, and not because of a serious setback. It is unfortunate that so many people, like Harry, think that it is something to be ashamed of. For anyone who is feeling sad for any length of time, there is help available. People who don't have physicians should google mental health services in their areas. There are many people who are ready and able to help.
Thank you, feeling much better, Lexapro is a very mild antidepressant, a lot of my friends started taking it last year, Covid hit really hard here in the States

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I would assume that Meghan would know that there were medicines she couldn't take while pregnant. that does not mean that she could not see her doctor ask for a referral to a psychiatrist and try a talking cure. Unlike most of us, she could afford daily therapy..
And as for Harry, he's supposed tho be part of initiatives to show that mental illness is nothing to be ashamed of, and that people should be able to talk about it just as they do about physical illnesses. So why would he not (a) know where to refer his wife to get help and (b) be ashamed of telling people that she was depressed?
Most antidepressants are safe to take during pregnancy

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I have been assuming they didn't get paid for the interview or if they did, it wouldn't have been much versus what Oprah and CBS made. If they had been smart, they would have arranged to produce the interview for Netflix.
Netflix would grab the interview and it would have a global audience, and the public would be able to rewatch it numerous times
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Old 03-18-2021, 10:45 AM
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Another good point to make would be that there was absolutely nothing uplifting and encouraging about any of this interview. It was one "this is the awful thing that happened" after another. Pointing fingers and no hint anywhere of what a resolution would be. The theme song could have been "Nobody likes me, everybody hates me, guess I'll eat some worms". This is supposed to be a couple that has branched out on their own and are setting up a foundation to do philanthropist work?

The tone of the interview actually played against them by suggesting its *them* that needs the help that they didn't get from any corner at all. The institution turned a cold shoulder to them, the Bank of Dad closed, they were discriminated against and the list goes on and on but hey... we're going to solve all your problems and heal the world and buy it a Coke with Archewell (which, if they'd been smart would have been the focus of the interview instead of their woes.)

When someone is sitting on the pity pot and drones on and on about their sad selves, after a while, the thought comes to mind to just scream at them to s**t and get off the pot. Anyone remotely familiar with recovery or therapy knows that dwelling in the past and its miseries stop you from going forward towards actually having a happy and productive life. I've been there, done that and proudly wear the t-shirt.

They're still on the path of discrediting everything good they think they want to do and that's doing more harm to themselves than good. They can't help anyone else until they first learn how to help themselves. It's a long, painful process to actually grow up and function in the real adult world and I do sincerely hope they find their way. The biggest question now really is "Where do they go from here?"
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Old 03-18-2021, 10:51 AM
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If anyone was going to get a location fee it would be Oprah's BFF Gayle King , as it was in her garden that the 4 hrs of "bombshell" drivel were filmed . I'm sure however that she provided the location out of the goodness of her journalistic heart for no fee . I believe that only footage involving Archie would have been shot at the Sussex mansion .
Still wondering when the rest of the footage will emerge ? Possibly when H & M find they need more headline's since the BRF are refusing to play their game .
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Old 03-18-2021, 10:57 AM
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And the hits just keep on coming. Harry and Meghan can just sit back in their chicken coop and go buk, buk, buk (thinking about a buk (book) deal) while the ammunition is lobbed back and forth between other parties that somehow got a bit of limelight from the "now viral" interview.

Good example of this from one of our mainstream news channels FoxNews.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...rry-not-racist

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Netflix would grab the interview and it would have a global audience, and the public would be able to rewatch it numerous times
It's still possible that the interview will come to Netflix. I wouldn't discount that happening. Netflix picks up programming from other networks all the time.
It's how I was able to watch "Grey's Anatomy" from season 1, episode 1 through 16 seasons.

Many British royal programs and documentaries are on there to watch to our hearts content. The Windsors, documentaries on Diana, British royal castles etc. The Crown is just one that was actually a Netflix original. Imagine Archie 15 years from now able to sit down and search the archives anywhere at all and especially on Netflix and see his parents give this interview.

Wonder how long it'll take Netflix to get it?

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Well, don't know about that, if Meghan could be the next Queen, I think she would be very happy
As she'd only be a Queen Consort, I still think she'd have a problem with the rules and regulations and the protocols that she had as a Princess of the UK and The Duchess of Sussex. The title would just change. Not the job.

If she were to become Queen (impossible as she's not in the line of succession at all), I'd say, "there goes the monarchy!"
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Old 03-18-2021, 11:36 AM
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The scariest part is that Harry and Oprah are working together on some sort of program on mental health. One had sought help in the past at the urging of his family, but admitted that he was too ashamed to admit his wife's issues to his family. Then, he didn't take steps to help his wife himself.

The other acted like it was perfectly understandable for Harry to be ashamed and for Meghan to run around to everyone but her doctors. Moreover, she implied that no one should take responsibility for their own mental health or that of their immediate family. Finally, she missed the opportunity to urge any viewers who may be suffering to ask for help. I admit I don't watch much of Oprah but she is the last person who should be advising people on mental health issues.
I totally agree. This all seems fishy to me.


First. Meghan and mental health issues. I believe that she went through dark times, but "being suicidal and nobody gave her access to seek help" is very strange. She has the money and connections to seek help from great doctors and institutions. But it seems nothing happened. One more thing, depression and the interview are like water and oil. My mother has suffered from depression for years, and she wants to be isolated (she does not want to see other people nor talk). Yet, Meghan, who was in a very deep depressive state, "miraculously" healed and went on TV? Sorry, folks. I know many people who had depression (including my mother), and it takes yearsss to heal, and most of the cases, it never really goes away. And sorry, again, something is fishy here.


Second. Harry. Oh Harry, are you a teenager now? How did you not help your wife? Did you not went through some serious mental health issues? Why was he ashamed of his wife being depressed? Really? I don't want know what he was waiting for...Help from his father or Royal Family? For Meghan to heal by herself? Or was he waiting for her to die? Sorry if I am being aggressive, but I just can't understand this AT ALL. The same with the funding. He needs to grow up. Does he plan to live of his father's money after tossing away his royal duties? Like seriously? To me, Harry is that spoiled rich royal kid who is oblivious of the real world.


Third. These issues and the royal family. It seems Meghan and Harry want the royal family to be their Fairy Godmother, or even the Genie, to grant them wishes as they please without doing anything at all. Why can't they fix everything by themselves? It's always the RF this, the RF that...Their obsession is on a whole different level...
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Old 03-18-2021, 11:47 AM
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Another thought that has come to mind with US Royal Watcher reminding us that Harry is working with Oprah on a mental health program. I believe, IIRC, that it would be aired on AppleTV+. In fact, just did a search and several "reports" came up and this is one of them.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...c849a0adec5f28

Now, the way a Netflix lucrative deal could be involved here. Remembering how Netflix picked up "Grey's Anatomy" (all 16 seasons) from ABC to stream and "Outlander" from Showtime and many streaming services like Hulu have programming by other networks for streaming but not until (for example like the Chicago Med, Fire, PD series) the next day. With a contract with the Sussexes, it could be that Netflix has the first right to pick up *any* programming on and by these two. They may then negotiate a price with CBS for the interview, negotiate with AppleTV+ for the Harry and Oprah documentary and the list could go on to infinity. If Harry and Meghan produced a children's series for Archewell, Netflix may want to pick it up eventually for streaming. The Sussexes may not actually have to produce something solely for Netflix as in a Netflix Original but that also could happen.
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Old 03-18-2021, 11:49 AM
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I'm not getting any of it. Both Harry and William, and, for that matter, James Middleton, have spoken publicly about their own mental health issues. The Duchess of Kent spent time in hospital over 40 years ago for "nervous exhaustion" or whatever term was used at the time. We don't know exactly what's happened, but we're not living in the days when any sort of mental illness was swept under the carpet.
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Old 03-18-2021, 11:55 AM
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It's beyond me to imagine how anyone could actually think Harry could speak with any authority on mental health issues. The Oprah interview made it blatantly clear that he's still obsessed unhealthily with the perceived wrongs done to him (over a year later!), that he has no grasp of reality (being financially independent without cutting off the financial funding from his father) and that he's far from the balanced place needed to talk from the experience of having successfully healed his own life. It was slightly ridiculous to watch these two bitter people spew venom and well-calculated attacks mixed with outrageous lies and sly manipulations and insist that they were oh so happy in their new life.



If Harry had left it with just the Corden interview, it would have sounded far more convincing.
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Old 03-18-2021, 11:56 AM
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Another thought that has come to mind with US Royal Watcher reminding us that Harry is working with Oprah on a mental health program. I believe, IIRC, that it would be aired on AppleTV+. In fact, just did a search and several "reports" came up and this is one of them.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...c849a0adec5f28

Now, the way a Netflix lucrative deal could be involved here. Remembering how Netflix picked up "Grey's Anatomy" (all 16 seasons) from ABC to stream and "Outlander" from Showtime and many streaming services like Hulu have programming by other networks for streaming but not until (for example like the Chicago Med, Fire, PD series) the next day. With a contract with the Sussexes, it could be that Netflix has the first right to pick up *any* programming on and by these two. They may then negotiate a price with CBS for the interview, negotiate with AppleTV+ for the Harry and Oprah documentary and the list could go on to infinity. If Harry and Meghan produced a children's series for Archewell, Netflix may want to pick it up eventually for streaming. The Sussexes may not actually have to produce something solely for Netflix as in a Netflix Original but that also could happen.
I understand what you are saying, Netflix picks up a lot of programs that have been aired. It is to round out their content and is relatively cheap because repeated programming s not worth as much as an original program.

I can't believe that Netflix is willing to pay them $100 million to produce programs that will be broadcast somewhere else first. Netflix wants to keep its current subscribers and attract new ones through original programming.
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Old 03-18-2021, 12:02 PM
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Some people have been suggesting that though they weren't paid directly for it that they got paid for things like filming in their home (location fee) and of Archie as well as possibly a producers fee or distribution fee somewhere along the line. I'm sure Oprah and CBS got the lions share but they won't be empty handed from it.
Or money was given to Archewell.

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If anyone was going to get a location fee it would be Oprah's BFF Gayle King , as it was in her garden that the 4 hrs of "bombshell" drivel were filmed . I'm sure however that she provided the location out of the goodness of her journalistic heart for no fee . I believe that only footage involving Archie would have been shot at the Sussex mansion .
Still wondering when the rest of the footage will emerge ? Possibly when H & M find they need more headline's since the BRF are refusing to play their game .
Actually the next morning on CBS Gayle King specifically said that it was NOT her garden that was used and that she did not own a home in LA.
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Old 03-18-2021, 12:13 PM
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Well, don't know about that, if Meghan could be the next Queen, I think she would be very happy
I dont tink so, not now.. I think that she now hates the UK and would only be queen if she could live in the US...

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A regnant Queen Meghan would be ousted in no time, just like several other British monarchs who overstepped the mark!
well there's absolutel no way she could be a queen regnant...
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Old 03-18-2021, 12:22 PM
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I'm not getting any of it. Both Harry and William, and, for that matter, James Middleton, have spoken publicly about their own mental health issues. The Duchess of Kent spent time in hospital over 40 years ago for "nervous exhaustion" or whatever term was used at the time. We don't know exactly what's happened, but we're not living in the days when any sort of mental illness was swept under the carpet.
I doubt that The Queen and DoE, or Charles, would all of a sudden find the time or develop the emotional vocabulary to be able to sit down and have the lengthy heart to heart that Harry and Meghan, (and Oprah), would see as support. William and Kate would probably be more comfortable with that sort of talk but likely only with Harry, and even then I think William is the sort of person who would want to move fairly quickly to the “ok, what are your next steps?” part of the conversation. People can’t always give you exactly the kind of support you want and different people prioritize different kinds of support. Charles may be genuinely bewildered that Harry’s accused him of being unsupportive re: Meghan’s mental health because he knows that Harry only had to open his mouth and there would have been a lineup of leading physicians and mental health specialists at the door and it would have gone without saying that he, Charles, would have picked up the bill for all of it. William may be furious because he asked Harry three or four times if he and Meghan had called a doctor like they’d spoken about and Harry gave him the impression it was dealt with.
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Old 03-18-2021, 12:23 PM
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well there's absolutel no way she could be a queen regnant...
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Old 03-18-2021, 12:36 PM
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And the hits just keep on coming. Harry and Meghan can just sit back in their chicken coop and go buk, buk, buk (thinking about a buk (book) deal) while the ammunition is lobbed back and forth between other parties that somehow got a bit of limelight from the "now viral" interview.

Good example of this from one of our mainstream news channels FoxNews.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...rry-not-racist


Good. Not the biggest fan of Piers Morgan, but IA with him here.

And he had the right to his opinion. Meghan has yet to provide any ACTUAL proof of her claims. And her word doesn’t mean much IMO. Meghan’s truth and the truth aren’t the same thing.
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It's still possible that the interview will come to Netflix. I wouldn't discount that happening. Netflix picks up programming from other networks all the time.
It's how I was able to watch "Grey's Anatomy" from season 1, episode 1 through 16 seasons.

Many British royal programs and documentaries are on there to watch to our hearts content. The Windsors, documentaries on Diana, British royal castles etc. The Crown is just one that was actually a Netflix original. Imagine Archie 15 years from now able to sit down and search the archives anywhere at all and especially on Netflix and see his parents give this interview.

Wonder how long it'll take Netflix to get it?




As she'd only be a Queen Consort, I still think she'd have a problem with the rules and regulations and the protocols that she had as a Princess of the UK and The Duchess of Sussex. The title would just change. Not the job.

If she were to become Queen (impossible as she's not in the line of succession at all), I'd say, "there goes the monarchy!"
I admit that I don't know the ins and outs of the Netflix business, but wouldn't Netflix have to pay CBS and not Harry and Meghan in that case, since it was not their content.
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Old 03-18-2021, 01:14 PM
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Yes, if the interview is streaming anywhere, it will be on Paramount + (which is owned by ViacomCBS, who also owns CBS Television) unless Netflix purchased the streaming rights.

Personally, going back a few comments ago, I think the Sussexes thought that they only had to give up the money from the Queen (which likely covered their staff, which they wouldn't need anymore, so they didn't care).

I think Harry in particular thought he would get taxpayer coverage for their security, and that Charles would continue funding their personal lives as he had been. I don't think he understood Charles' financial support as an exchange for being full-time working royals.

The funny part is: I think one of the reasons that the Queen/Charles wanted to slow them down and not make anything public was because they knew security was a massive issue, and as soon as it all became public, Canada would balk at paying the tab. Which they did. And rightly so. I remember the very first draft of the Sussex Royal website had a particular language (Internationally Protected Persons) which meant the Sussex team knew a little bit about security abroad, but not actually enough to understand the funding concerns of it.

Also, I don't think Harry has ever understood that Charles viewed the Duchy as heavily tied to Charles' royal role and duties. He sees it as just free money that Charles can spend how he likes. It's kind of sad- Harry in some ways likely views the monarchy as it was hundreds of years ago, and not what it was modernized to today.
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Old 03-18-2021, 01:15 PM
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Count your blessings!
but it si completely impossible.. could not happen. I meant that if Charles had been able somehow to oust William and make Harry future King, I still dont think it would make Meghan (or H) happy because they are alienated from the UK... and Harry does not want to be King (at least according to himself).
but I think that if they had been willing to stay, Meg and H woudl have wanted equal status and money with William and Harry, not to take second place... Even so, I think they are so darned selfish that they would still say they wanted to be out of royal life for much of the year, and to be free to make extra money living abroad..

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Yes, if the interview is streaming anywhere, it will be on Paramount + (which is owned by ViamcomCBS, who also owns CBS Television) unless Netflix purchased the streaming rights.

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The funny part is: I think one of the reasons that the Queen/Charles wanted to slow them down and not make anything public was because they knew security was a massive issue, and as soon as it all became public, Canada would balk at paying the tab. Which they did. And rightly so. I remember the very first draft of the Sussex Royal website had a particular language (Internationally Protected Persons) which meant the Sussex team knew a little bit about security abroad, but not actually enough to understand the funding concerns of it.

Also, I don't think Harry has ever understood that Charles viewed the Duchy as heavily tied to Charles' royal role and duties. He sees it as just free money that Charles can spend how he likes. It's kind of sad- Harry in some ways likely views the monarchy as it was hundreds of years ago, and not what it was modernized to today.
I agree about the Duchy. when this issue came up previously, some people seemed to feel that Charles could spend the money just as he pleased.. and I felt that he regarded the Duchy money as tied to his working life.. that it was there to help the tenants of the Duchy, to help his Charites, adn to help members of his family in their royal work...
Technically yes when the Duchy became the property of the POW/DOC, it was simply there to provide the heir to the throne with money.. but that was a long time ago.. and the public and Charles himself do not see it in that laisser faire light any more.. He sees it as money that he can give to his sons for their royal work.. but not money that he just gives out - because Harry wants it and isn't doing any royal work....
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I don't think Harry would want to be King. He's said so himself a couple of times, said "no one wants to be King" in 2017 and says he now considers his father and brother "trapped".

I think what they want is the perks, Dutchy money, their own court and status of being King or at least being in the direct line without the often tedious work.

If they were King and Queen they wouldn't be able to leave for several months of the year, couldn't speak out on the issues they wanted, would get criticised A LOT for things that aren't necessarily their fault and all the rest of it.
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I admit that I don't know the ins and outs of the Netflix business, but wouldn't Netflix have to pay CBS and not Harry and Meghan in that case, since it was not their content.
Exactly. Netflix would negotiate with CBS but have something in their favor which is a signed contract by Harry and Meghan to give them the first right to acquire the content for streaming. Right now you can stream the interview on Paramount. With some programming on Netflix, they can't make it available for a certain time after the season airs such as Outlander (and I have to correct myself here. That airs on Starz and not Showtime). Looking it up, it states "Netflix in the US gets new seasons of Outlander two years after their finale airs on Starz in the US. That means that Netflix US won't get season five until May 2022" So, Netflix may not get the interview for a while. IF ever. The Netflix contract may be all encompassing to even include first rights to anything produced by Archewell. It's a multimillion dollar contract that probably covers a lot of time going into the future.

I don't know any of this as a fact. It's what my train of thought has led me to. None of us know what the Netflix contract has in its wherefore and whys that the legal eagles on both sides have scoured over with a fine tooth comb. Only that there is a contract and its a whopper.
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