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Old 08-09-2019, 03:43 AM
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Was it necessary that King Constantine I of Greece had to abdicate in 1917?

Seeing the tumbling thrones in Austria-Hungary, Russia, Germany, etc. by hindsight the abdication of Constantine I was a wise move. The same can be said about the abdication of Grand-Duchess Marie Adelheid of Luxembourg in 1919, which was just on time to save the monarchy.


An abdication (apart from the ones because the monarch him- or herself wants to retreat, like Charles V in 1555, or like Beatrix in 2013) always has a reason. Usually it is a result of a conclusion sinking in that a monarch does not have sufficient support anymore. This was the case with Constantine I and Marie Adelheid, amongst others.
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Old 08-09-2019, 04:37 AM
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And he was reinstated as king a few years later and abdicated again in 1922.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:19 PM
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And he was reinstated as king a few years later and abdicated again in 1922.
Yes, That is what is hard to understand. First, Constantine I is King. He abdicates. He is King again. Did the Greek Parliament have difficulty working with the monarch?
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:22 AM
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It was a very turbulent era in Greek history following the assassination of king George in 1913 .
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:50 AM
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THer is a lot of information on Wikipedia about Constantine's reign.. and how his dsiputes with the Prime Minister and the problems of the wars in the Balkans and WWI affected his tenure of the throne...
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Speaking of abdications, what's the chance that Prince Charles would abdicate in favour of his son, William?

In the British Royal Family fandom, there's been a debate over that considering that the Queen might get to live for another five years and by the time Prince Charles would ascend to the throne, he'd be way older than he already is.
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Old 04-26-2020, 02:15 AM
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I don't have any doubt in the world that Charles will be King Charles III in his turn and could well reign for quite a number of years when you look at the ages of several recent Windsors, including his own parents. There's no way, after waiting to reign for all his adult life, that Prince Charles would opt to hand over to his son straight away. That would happen only if he was incapacitated, just like the present Queen.
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Old 04-26-2020, 02:20 AM
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If the Queen can do an excellent job of reigning in her 90s, which she does, there's no reason why Prince Charles can't do an excellent job of reigning in his 70s ... and hopefully his 80s and 90s too.


Unless there are health reasons, which hopefully won't happen, Charles won't just step aside and become the King Who Never Was, after being heir to the throne all these years, and I think William would prefer not to become king until his children are older.
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Old 04-26-2020, 03:37 AM
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Speaking of abdications, what's the chance that Prince Charles would abdicate in favour of his son, William?

In the British Royal Family fandom, there's been a debate over that considering that the Queen might get to live for another five years and by the time Prince Charles would ascend to the throne, he'd be way older than he already is.
The Prince of Wales can not abdicate from a position he is not in. With other words: he needs to be King himself, to abdicate the kingship.

Du moment the Queen passes away, the Prince of Wales is the lawful King, no matter his age.

In 1901 the almost 60-years old Prince of Wales became King Edward VII. For the UK general life expectancy of 1901, he was very old. He nevertheless became King and reigned for almost a decade (which is longer than two USA presidential terms, to make a comparison).
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In 1932 King Albert I of the Belgians wrote that he would soon abdicate in favor of his son Leopold (III) and that he would retreat into to his villa Haslihorn in Switzerland. He added that a retired priest should not remain in the parish. His early death sadly prevented this.
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In 1932 King Albert I of the Belgians wrote that he would soon abdicate in favor of his son Leopold (III) and that he would retreat into to his villa Haslihorn in Switzerland. He added that a retired priest should not remain in the parish. His early death sadly prevented this.
That would hard to imagine: Queen Wilhelmina, Grand-Duchess Charlotte, Queen Juliana, Grand-Duke Jean, Queen Beatrix, King Albert, King Juan Carlos, Pope Benedictus XVI, Emperor Akihito, all moving to a foreign country. I think the current practice of keeping a low profile works well.
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Speaking of abdications, what's the chance that Prince Charles would abdicate in favour of his son, William?

In the British Royal Family fandom, there's been a debate over that considering that the Queen might get to live for another five years and by the time Prince Charles would ascend to the throne, he'd be way older than he already is.
If the queen dies in five years, Charles would only be 76 going on 77. There is no reason to believe he wont live well into his 90's like both of his parents, and his grandmother lived over 100. He would have a good 20 years to reign before he died. One cant argue that Charles cant be a good ruler in his 90's, considering his mother and the role she still serves.

Prince William as the new POW would just step up and do more of the travel and duties like his father currently does. That's the natural way of things in the BRF.
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That would hard to imagine: Queen Wilhelmina, Grand-Duchess Charlotte, Queen Juliana, Grand-Duke Jean, Queen Beatrix, King Albert, King Juan Carlos, Pope Benedictus XVI, Emperor Akihito, all moving to a foreign country. I think the current practice of keeping a low profile works well.
It does but perhaps it would not have worked in 1932, when Albert I wrote the letter. The Duke of Windsor obviously settled abroad while Queen Wilhelmina retreated to the background and considered herself 'dead'. She was seldom seen in public - supposedly somewhat inspired by Charles V. Leopold III's long shadow and overbearing presence during the early years of his son's reign were not a great help to the monarchy. The more recent examples you mention show indeed that it does not have to be a problem.
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If Carl Gustaf would consider abdication; 2023 might be a good year to do so, he will be 77 year of age, can celebrate 50 years on the throne (on September 15) and probably at that same day hand over the throne to the new Queen Victoria (46) and prince (consort) Daniel (who turns 50 that day) with crown princess Estelle (11) and prince Oscar (7).
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