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11-04-2016, 05:35 AM
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11-04-2016, 07:25 AM
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Thank you LadyFinn. Sweden seems to start school later than say the USA and UK.
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I was actually surprised to learn from LadyFinn that compulsory school in Sweden starts only at age 7. In most developed countries (and even in developing countries like Brazil or South Africa), compulsory school now starts at age 6. Furthermore, some countries (or some states/provinces in federal systems) now require compulsory school attendance until age 17 or 18. Sweden seems to be behind the curve (or not keeping up with recent trends).
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While they may start school later (here it is either 4 or 5 depending on the school), it seems that the children are actually well "schooled" before they get there.
Reading LadyFinn's link to the Swedish Education System, I can only say that it is quite a formidable undertaking. From as young as one, they are in "Preschool" which has a curriculum and at six they attend a year of "Preschool Class" which is quite separate and seems to be a bridge to enable the children to become used to more formal education and enable them to integrate into the more structured Compulsory School.
So, I think they actually have a pretty good head start rather than a late one.
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11-04-2016, 01:33 PM
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what a cute picture of Oscar. Looks just like Estelle
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11-04-2016, 01:58 PM
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Someone should start a storybook series based on the Swedish Royal children.
They are straight out of a fairy tale.
Same for George and Charlotte of Britain and the Monaco Princely twins....they are almost too perfect and adorable!
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11-04-2016, 02:02 PM
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Such ab adorable new photo
Feel sad for Estelle. Be hard to see her nanny of three years go. I know she has another, but at that age it will be a hard goodbye. Probably, as much as she wants to go home, as hard on Katie too.
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11-06-2016, 01:43 AM
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Svensk Damtidning writes that Victoria and Daniel have a "secret" deal about how their daughter is brought up. Daniel's mission is to teach Estelle how the normal world outside the palace works. And Victoria will guide Estelle to her role as a royal. That Daniel and Victoria have a very fine chemistry and are very coherent can all who have met them endorse, but there is also the clash of civilisations, which is the result of their quite different upbringing.
"A person with good insight" says to Svensk Damtidning that Daniel really wants that Estelle gets as normal upbringing as possible. But sometime Victoria thinks that he goes too far with it. Victoria was not so happy when Daniel took Estelle to metro in rush hour. She is worried that something might happen even though SÄPO (Swedish Security Service) was with them. Going with metro was surely exciting for Estelle, she is normally driven at big cars with tinted windows. And she found out what the other children at her preschool speak when they tell about the metro.
Shopping is another thing Daniel wants to teach to his daughter. Estelle has been at ICA Borgholm and Coop in Ockelbo with her parents, when they want to shop themselves. But the highlight was when she in the spring paid with her own money at Kronan Pharmacy in Stockholm. An eyewitness told to Svensk Damtidning that she looked so proud and happy. Victoria wants also that Estelle learns all this but the difference is that Victoria often does things before the place is opened or after it has been closed, like she took Estelle to Skansen early in the morning last year. Daniel doesn't mind that there is a lot of people around. When they went to the Pharmacy, it was around five o'clock in a Friday afternoon and the place was filled with people who came from their work.
Conflict or not. That Daniel takes Estelle to ice hockey match, drives her to dance training, hangs with her at Room for Children at Kulturhuset and takes her on the pizzeria and to Junibacken makes Estelle to a small princess who is aware of things. She stands with one foot in each world and it will also be her strength as a queen.
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11-06-2016, 02:52 AM
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That is a good way to bring up their children.
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11-06-2016, 06:42 PM
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 I agree, I think it's good that both Victoria and Daniel balance out Estelle's royal and everyday life. The anecdote about her at the pharmacy was so sweet.
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11-06-2016, 07:17 PM
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I think that it is great that they are raising her wth a real balance of not sly and royal life. Not simply breaking protocol with a rare trip to Disney or burgers. It will be even more i ports to fir Oscar who will have less royal duties than his sister. Be easier for him to picture a career and at least semi private life
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11-07-2016, 12:15 AM
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Short video of Oscar's new photo from TV4 News on Friday
En hösthälsning från prins Oscar - Streama TV4 Play
According to Svensk Damtidning Oscar has a nickname, Victoria and Daniel call him Oscis.
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11-11-2016, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MARG
While they may start school later (here it is either 4 or 5 depending on the school), it seems that the children are actually well "schooled" before they get there.
Reading LadyFinn's link to the Swedish Education System, I can only say that it is quite a formidable undertaking. From as young as one, they are in "Preschool" which has a curriculum and at six they attend a year of "Preschool Class" which is quite separate and seems to be a bridge to enable the children to become used to more formal education and enable them to integrate into the more structured Compulsory School.
So, I think they actually have a pretty good head start rather than a late one.
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Both the USA and Sweden are below the world average in student performance on the 2012 PISA testing. You can see the rankings at:
http://www.oecd.org/pisa/keyfindings...lume-I-ENG.pdf
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11-26-2016, 09:15 AM
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I am a bit baffled at the palce's silence over Estelle'schange of school. I mean, when she set out for preschool for the first time, they released a press realese and invited the press, so I don't see much coherence with the court not even annoucing thatn she had changed school.
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11-30-2016, 10:57 AM
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Expressen quotes Svensk Damtidning's this week's paper issue
Estelle's new love - pony Viktor, 18
Princess Estelle has got a new horse. She has previously had Shetland pony Frozza, which was given to Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel as a wedding present.
But now a white welsh pony, named Viktor has taken place at Estelle's heart, Svensk Damtidning reported as first at their paper issue.
- Estelle is here regularly and takes care of the horse. She does like one does with horses, grooming, brushing, taking care for them - and talk to them! She rides too, says Crown Equerry and Head of the Royal Stables, Ulf Gunnehed to Expressen.
Is Estelle good with horses?
- She is very good and she thinks it's great fun.
The pony is 18 years old. Gunnehed says that a higher age is generally good when it comes to horses intended for children.
- You want a good, stable, friendly horse. With age they of course become a little calmer and more stable.
According to Gunnehed Estelle doesn't ride outdoors with Viktor yet, it is the indoor arena at the Royal Stables in use so far. But in the summer the pony can go along to Öland.
- So far we don't dare to ride outdoors with her, Gunnehed said to Svensk Damtidning.
Estelles nya kärlek –*ponnyn Viktor, 18 _ Kungligt _ Expressen
And now Svensk Damtidning has put the article to their website, with photos of Viktor (and Estelle at a photo montage).
One staff member of the Royal Stables tells that pony Frozza, which Victoria and Daniel got as a wedding present, wasn't kind and it has been sold now. Ulf Gunnehed confirms that Frozza is sold and says that Frozza is well taken care of and feels great elsewhere, and that Estelle loves her new pony. The new pony Viktor was bought in the spring. Victoria works nowadays often at the court office at the Royal Stables.
Estelle har fått en ny häst! _ Annas kungliga barnblogg
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12-01-2016, 10:57 AM
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Prince Oscar's first Name Day today is celebrated:
From morning to evening the Royal Armoury is filled with lots of activities for both young and old who want to help and make the Name Day to an extra memorable day.
In the afternoon, tea and Oscar Cake are served with music at the Stone Hall at the Royal Palace. The cake is a modern version of the classic Oscar Cake produced by confectioners Oscar Malevik and Johanna Stenholm from Haga Tårtcompani och Bageri.
- Prince Oscar is the Duke of Skåne and Skåne has a lot of lovely artisan food and great ingredients. The traditional "Oscar Cake" is classic but not very modern. Therefore, we did a little more modern and Skåne variant of it, says Oscar Malevik.
Ny namnsdagstårta till prins Oscar _ Åsas kungliga Europa
The Royal Armoury tells about their activities on Oscar's Name Day:
At 11.15, 12, 13, 14, 15
Free viewing for the whole family in the footsteps of princes and princesses at the Royal Armoury.
At 15.00
Welcome to the afternoon concert dedicated to all Oscar-princes then and now in the Stone Hall's tearoom! Prince Oscar Cake Special is served there. "Princess Eugenie" and "Crown Princess Lovisa", aka Karin Hellman Geworkian and Marianne Jacobs play piano duets. We hear compositions from the 1800s royal court as well as newly written. Moderator Gösta Sandell.
at 17.30
Superintendent Sofia Nestor tells of the Royal Name Days, birthdays and other celebrations around the 1800s Oscar-princes and other royals.
Fira Oscars namnsdag _ Livrustkammaren
ROYAL: Süßes Törtchen für Prinz Oscars Namenstag
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12-10-2016, 09:44 AM
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Here is a great photo of Estelle at the handball match, where she was with Daniel.
From the Facebook of photographer Pelle T Nilsson
"And there she stands, Princess Estelle, in a sea of people that she shall rule over as queen in the future. For Sweden with the times".
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...fd&oe=58B94A1D
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12-10-2016, 10:38 AM
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That's indeed a good photo, made all the more special by that solemn caption! Thanks, LadyFinn...
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12-15-2016, 08:04 AM
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Extremely cute little girl !!!!!
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12-15-2016, 05:06 PM
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Look at Princess Madeleine's Facebook, she just posted very cute photo of Estelle, Leonore and Nicolas.
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b7&oe=58B6A25F
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