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04-30-2007, 06:42 AM
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Why the last name is ortiz?In Portugal the father's name is always the last name of the child!
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I'm really overjoyed that Letizia and Felipe had their girl after many hard months .. I'm glad she turned out healthy, but it's still sad that there are no more babies to be born left 
By 1st of July, it will all be over. Then we will have the name of the dutch, spanish AND danish princess, we'll have official pictures of the little families, of the beautiful girls and I we'll begin to watch these three princesses grow up.
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04-30-2007, 06:52 AM
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The prince has been arriving a few minutes ago at the Ruber clinic without Leonor. We will have to continue wating.
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04-30-2007, 06:56 AM
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Why the last name is ortiz?In Portugal the father's name is always the last name of the child!
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In Spain, the traditional way of naming a child is first name, (middle), father's last name, mother's last name. It's just that way- I'm not sure why.
So Leonor and Sofia are Borbon (Felipe's last name) and Ortiz (Letizia's).
Letizia's last name is Letizia Ortiz Roscaslano.
Felipe, Cristina, and Elena have the last name Borbon y Grecia (of Bourbon and of Greece, for Sofia)
de Todos los Santos is a name that is commonly given to the infantas, like a middle name.
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04-30-2007, 06:56 AM
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Why the last name is ortiz?In Portugal the father's name is always the last name of the child!
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Why? because in Spain that is a custom
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04-30-2007, 07:04 AM
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Why? because in Spain that is a custom
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Very good answer. You are right it's only that and if you are very attempt to the Spanish history yo can see than Don Juan was called de Bourbon y battenberg; Don Juan Carlos de Borbon i Borbon; Doña Sofia de Borbon i Grecia;all the children of the actual Kings are Borbon i Grecia.
Sometimes I'm little astonished by the questions? 
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Congratulations to the couple.
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04-30-2007, 07:22 AM
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[QUOTE=biboquinhas]Why the last name is ortiz?In Portugal the father's name is always the last name of the child!
Why? They are following the Spanish custom. They are not in Portugal.
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04-30-2007, 07:24 AM
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King Juan Carlos will visit his new granddaughter tomorrow.
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You shouldnt be, very much of the people on this forum dont know customs/history/traditions & why things are in other countries. asking is just a way of finding out, even if questions seem to be silly. In the Arab world, the child always takes after the father, so knowing that Felipe's daughter take Ortiz is new to many & to myself 
Anyways, Maybe later on today Felipe visit's again with Leonor. Since Felipe said Leonor & Sofia look alike, it would be cute to see when they grow up, looking like twins & dressed in the same summer dresses 
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04-30-2007, 07:30 AM
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Thanks for the link dear Lula. What a joy to see the happiness of the Prince. How happy is the man who generally speaking is shy and don't very demonstrative of his feeling.
It's totally obvious that the new baby girl is a true pleasure for his family and the fact that the baby is called Sofia is a subject more of joy.
It's called very simple joy of the life but , yes what happiness. Congratulations for all the family! 
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Congratulations to the couple. Sofia is a great name for the girl and a nice gift for the Queen.
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I really don't know why I receive some very harsh answers!I was just saying that in Portugal the last name is always from the father and I just wanted to ask why the last name is Ortiz???I know the customs are not the same, but really I don't know the customs/History/traditions of Spain! Gohsssss you are so......
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Absolutely agree Adelaide
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04-30-2007, 07:38 AM
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You shouldnt be, very much of the people on this forum dont know customs/history/traditions & why things are in other countries. asking is just a way of finding out, even if questions seem to be silly. In the Arab world, the child always takes after the father, so knowing that Felipe's daughter take Ortiz is new to many & to myself
Anyways, Maybe later on today Felipe visit's again with Leonor. Since Felipe said Leonor & Sofia look alike, it would be cute to see when they grow up, looking like twins & dressed in the same summer dresses |
Dazzling i think that it is evident that if the first last name of Leonor is father´s and the second one is mother´s it´s because in Spain it is a custom, isnt it?
So... I do not understand the purpose of the question, but of course she must right to ask what she wants.
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As I'm very found of this designs I make sharing these with you! I thnk to her for that!
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04-30-2007, 07:41 AM
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El Rey tiene previsto conocer mañana a su nueva nieta
The King has foreseen to know tomorrow his new granddaughter
The King has foreseen to know tomorrow his new granddaughter, the Infanta Sofía, whom he will visit in the Clinical Rúber Internacional of Madrid, informed Efe a speaker of the House of the King.
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Dona Sofía returned this morning to the clinic, to know personally how her new granddaughter and her daughter-in-law passed the night, the Princess of Asturias, and later she had foreseen to travel to Barcelona to be present in the birthday of her grandson Miguel, son of the Dukes of Palm.
At 12.45 hours the Prince of Asturias was returning to the Rúber Internacional. Only and to the steering wheel of the same vehicle in which this morning, after passing the night together with his wife and his daughter, was working out past the eight of the morning.
The Princes and the Infanta Sofía there meets the mother of dona Letizia, Paloma Rocasolano, which entered the Rúber Internacional a door that is not the principal one.
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