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I was thinking more on the line of breeding.
I know you were. And I personally think that it's in poor taste to talk about "breeding" in people as one would dogs or horses.
I was thinking more on the line of breeding.
I know you were. And I personally think that it's in poor taste to talk about "breeding" in people as one would dogs or horses.
Why not - that is what has sustained the concept of monarchy and aristocracy for 1000s of years - the ancient Romans and Greeks right down to the more recent past - Diana was an appropriate girl for Charles because of her aristocratic background while Camilla wasn't - that was as more about breeding - having the right 'blood' to be the mother of future royals.
Why not - that is what has sustained the concept of monarchy and aristocracy for 1000s of years - the ancient Romans and Greeks right down to the more recent past - Diana was an appropriate girl for Charles because of her aristocratic background while Camilla wasn't - that was as more about breeding - having the right 'blood' to be the mother of future royals.
I can't see in the Pippa in the future taking over her parents' business, I can't see with the state of the world finances that people will be making others millionaires by buying paper plates and hats. Perhaps they will branch out to something else.
I have never understood the nastiness directed toward the Middleton family. I mean, their business is trashed, their children are called social climbers. From what I can see, they are just living their lives and have done nothing to deserve the vitriol.
And speaking of tacky, I'd find it quite tacky if Alex or his family/friends are the sources for this latest article.
Yes, and look how well that turned out? The idea that some people are superior to others because of their "blood lines" is absurd and it's one of the traditions around the monarchy that seems to have finally died out.
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Mermaid1962 said:How dare they want the best education available for their children? How dare the Middletons make enough money to send their children to good schools, where they happened meet upper class people and those in their circle? Didn't they know that middle-class people like them should send their kids to state schools where they'd meet people more suitable to breed with???? My questions are, of course, highly tongue-in-cheek.
The fact is that if the Middletons are at all likable, friendly people, they did and will make upper-class friends--at least among those who don't care about "breeding" but judge people on character.
Does anyone remember the comments that were made about the Middleton's after William and Kate spilt?
If you do, than you might agree with me that this "Pippa isn't marriage material" sounds like a play by play story from the Daily Mail.
I think there's more to it than just wanting to open up doors for better education and entry into better institutions. I think the British press sees them as the kind of people stuck on appearance - making sure the kids wear the right clothes, have the right hobbies and interests - in order to move ahead in the world. Look, I'm American and things are much different here in terms of social classes and social mobility. But I think what the British press gets at by characterizing them a social climbers is that they were overly ambitious to get ahead by social means and not necessarily by pushing their daughters to be the next CEO or forge a career and create their own glory. I think the Middletons are ambitious to be accepted on social terms, and are very concerned with fitting in, having the right associations, wearing the right things, etc. And frankly, I think the Middletons LOVE the attention that comes from their newly found social acceptance. Perhaps, that love for the attention, and the desire to break into that social strata is what turns off the Loudons/the British press.
I was thinking more on the line of breeding, and of course I know they are already millionaires, I was talking about the future, I can't see that tacky party stuff will be that in demand in the future. The Queen gave her permission to the marriage so no one can complain but, thank goodness, we can still express our opinions.
As far as what I can interpret from the article the ex boyfriend and his family were fine until she started to flirt with the newspapers and old flames.
And the fact that it has died out will presumably soon see the end of the monarchy worldwide. When the King or Queen is as common as the woman or man on the street, what makes the royal family special?
And some of the "commoner" royals have been fantastic at this- look at how much Crown Princess Mary helps the image of the Danish Royals, and how great Prince Daniel has been in Sweden.
Princess of Durham said:I always think that term is hilarious. Pardon me, but the only people who still use it are massive snobs and the very very elderly. IMHO, breeding has to do with horses, dogs, cats etc., it really has no place with reference to human beings. Of course I'm guessing that people who use the term consider themselves to have the proper kind of "breeding" in order to make such judgements.
ETA, certainly there is social mobility in the US but ANYONE who says there is not snobbery and classism just isn't hooked into reality. The schools you go to, where you live, where you go to university even to a certain extent what religious denomination you belong to says a lot. Just going to the "right" schools (private in this country) can pave the way for success all the way, assuming one is reasonably intelligent. BUT even that being the case, if "one" doesn't live in the proper area of a city or town it can have major repercussions despite the proper schools. Snobbery is EVERYWHERE!!!!
The Middletons should consider moving to the USA.
Perhaps they prefer something more discreet and have got different standards regarding people, who wish to join their family. Additionally Alex knows Ms. Middleton better than any of us.
As for the Loudons: what could be read in tabloids about their opinion is hardly discreet.
If they even did! This story could have been made up completely. There have been a lot of non-stories about Pippa and Kate- they sell papers.
Yes, but social mobility in the UK is much more difficult.. I always bring up the fact that at my boarding school in the US there were kids who had British parents in the entertainment industry who chose to send their kids to US schools bc it would have been very difficult for them socially in UK schools.
Who said really horrible things about Kate and the Middleton's when William and Kate broke up and attributed them to William, unknown Palace courtiers and/or William's friends. So much so that William is reported to have phoned Kate (and/or the Middleton's) to apologize before they got back together for good.
I am sure there are more than enough inaccuracies to go around.
I fully agree with you.The Loudons , contrary to some opinions on this thread, have shown class, there are not many families that would show stick to their principles and show relief at their son breaking off from the sister of a future Queen, in other words they will not be bought, and it is true anyone can have an opinion when it comes to Pippa. The Loudons, if the story is true, have their opinion because they know her and not because they like the photographs of the backview of a girl at a wedding.
The royal family can make friends, allow marriages,etc without ever losing the tiniest piece of class, other families not being royal can't afford to do the same.