lashinka2002
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Wow, in this picture she has a resemblance to princess grace IMO.
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mapie said:I have to wonder, what was the psychological role of Prince Rainier in Albert's history? Prince Rainier venerated the institution of marriage, and set enormously high standards (a wife who became one of the most admired in the world, and never a breath of scandal in his whole married life), he may have been something of a control freak about Albert's part in Monaco's future; i.e. someone who was impossible for Albert to please with regard to finding a wife. Rainier was also publicly quoted more than once as saying that he would hand the reigns over to Albert as soon as Albert was ready. As we all know he never did. What kind of message does that send to the world? Anyone under that kind of pressure might take some risks in other parts of his life. Not an excuse, just humanly understandable. And, in my opinion, ultimately forgivable.
sassie said:Well, this is true-but Rainier was no stranger to "sowing wild oats" as he lived quite openly with actress Gisele Pascal for several years before his marriage to Grace. So, while he may have had impossibly high standards, I'm sure he was more tolerant of Albert than is popularly known.
I also think that Rainier's refusal to hand over the reigns to Albert had less to do with Albert's readiness and more with the fact that Rainier just wasn't ready to step aside. His entire life revolved around being Sovereign Prince, it kept him busy and, likely, his duties helped distract him from the loneliness of life without Grace.
But, Rainier defied the conventions of the Catholic church to live with Pascal, which, given his later adherence to the strictures of the Church, was, so to speak, his "unconventional" period. He said himself that marriage with Pascal was something they both elected not to do, so it was not that they were living together with the idea that it would progress into marriage. So, I meant, and said badly, that Rainier perhaps understood Albert's tendency to be "unconventional" (i.e. having relationships in defiance of Catholic law) better than was popularly suspected.mapie said:I don't see a single man's one long-term monogamous relationship with an unmarried woman as sowing wild oats, just a potential life-partner that didn't work out.
starnightsky said:Albert should escort his daughter, Jazmin Grace, to next year's Rose Ball. Then he could also escort her to the Grand Prix and dinner. It's a win-win situation as long as Albert really is taking a real interest in his daughter! The publicity would also be wonderful. It's also called, "doing the right thing".
You are so right!!! Jazmin could be the best gift he's ever had. I hope he realizes this. She sounds like a dream daughter to me!!! Plus legitimate/illegitimate, she came into being the same way we all did. Her genetic makeup is no different than if he had been married to Tamara or not.teense said:Absolutely. His daughter could be the true love of his life.
Lovers come and go--but this accomplished young lady is a part of him that he needs to get to know. Her graduation from 8th grade is next week. She needs her Dad--I think he needs her ,too.
He should already be so proud of her. I hope he accepts this unexpected life gift that could prove to save his spirit--if he allows it.
It's not too late PA-
originally posted by Starnightsky You are so right!!! Jazmin could be the best gift he's ever had. I hope he realizes this. She sounds like a dream daughter to me!!! Plus legitimate/illegitimate, she came into being the same way we all did. Her genetic makeup is no different than if he had been married to Tamara or not.
Totally agree I also hopes he does get to attend some of those school activities. And invite her to some of those events in monaco by his side or her grimaldi cousinsWindsorIII said:I hope he realizes how lucky he is to have such a hard working, educated and talented daughter. Having Jazmine at his side would really make him look good. Maybe its not to late to turn an unfortunate situation into a great one!
paca said:If you look closely at the palace website under family, you will only find PA, Caro and Steph. Other royals handle it similarly. In Norway only the King &Queen, Haakon, Mette Marit and their kids are considered as members of the royal family.
If Albert wants to be more participant on his daugther's life his biggest problem in the future will be making Tamara Rotolo stay away from the cameras. Seems she is the one who wants to be the focus of attention in those pictures and her daugther is but an escort. Do I detect in the near future Tamara posing more for the camera than her own daugther evading them? Absolutely. Just check out her counterpart Nicole and how is she enjoying her 'spotlight'.starnightsky said:Albert should escort his daughter, Jazmin Grace, to next year's Rose Ball. Then he could also escort her to the Grand Prix and dinner. It's a win-win situation as long as Albert really is taking a real interest in his daughter! The publicity would also be wonderful. It's also called, "doing the right thing".
You are incorrect on not being related. The Grimaldis are related to the Kings of Norway, Sweden, Belgians, Spain, Hellenes, Albanians, Queen of Netherlands, Denmark, Great Britain, Grand Duke of Luxembourg, Duke of Bavaria, Archduke of Austria via Johann Georg II Prince of Anhalt-Dessau to name a few. Prince Louis' mothers family were heirs to the Throne of Scotland which became united with England under James I becoming known as Great Britain and that lineage connects him to the Hanover's. Albert's Godmother was the late Queen Victoria-Eugénia of Spain.wittykitty said:I don't see why the other Royal House whould have any reason to invite/socialise with Jazmin, she has no royal godparents and the Grimaldi's are not related to any other familes and I can't recall any vaction/play-dates between the Albert, Caroline and Steph with of the Dutch, Spanish,Greek,Danish, Brit kids. Pss Grace did give interviews mentioning her kids were half-American and would go to camp and vacation with her family in the states.
Thanks for the info, I didn't know they were related to all those royals.Lady MacAlpine said:You are incorrect on not being related. The Grimaldis are related to the Kings of Norway, Sweden, Belgians, Spain, Hellenes, Albanians, Queen of Netherlands, Denmark, Great Britain, Grand Duke of Luxembourg, Duke of Bavaria, Archduke of Austria via Johann Georg II Prince of Anhalt-Dessau to name a few. Prince Louis' mothers family were heirs to the Throne of Scotland which became united with England under James I becoming known as Great Britain and that lineage connects him to the Hanover's. Albert's Godmother was the late Queen Victoria-Eugénia of Spain.
You're welcome thats only a piece of the pie.anag said:Thanks for the info, I didn't know they were related to all those royals.
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Toledo said:I think the romanticism of some popular movies are affecting reality. We all wish for Albert to be closer to the kids he is leaving around but these children, innocent as they are, have no say in the rule of Monaco. Their mothers can day dream all they want but, as a reminder this is the...
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I know that Jazmin and Alexandre have no say in the rule of Monaco. But that doesn't mean that Jazmin can't meet with Albert and maybe get some questions answered and just get to know each other. I think that Tamara and Albert should find a way to work together to make sure that Jazmin is as comfortable as possible through these times. It was not her choice to be born into this position. The teenage years are fun but that's usually when you're most influenced by your surroundings. I just feel bad for her that's all.
You are right it is and the demand from the public not considering the child's welfare meaning safety once she was acknowledged and forcing her to live with body guards instead of freedom to go as she chose has stolen the peace from the rest of her life. Now she faces the problems Albert's sisters had and Stephanie has does a man want me for who I am or what they can get? Same applies to her girlfriends from now on.soCal girl said:I feel really bad for Jazmin right now. She's a 13-year old girl who already is dealing with the effects of puberty and now she has to deal with the press about her faraway father. She should be gossiping about boys with her friends instead of dealing with photographers and bodyguards. She is such a young girl to be dealing with this right now and I hope Albert does right by her and gets to know her. Jazmin seems very bright and talented and I think Albert should be proud to call her his own.
anag said:It would be nice to see Albert escort Jazmin to some events in Monaco, but I don't know about The Rose Ball. I think it's likely she will be at the Grand Prix, well at least I hope she will. It would be nice for her to start having a relationship with her aunts and cousins (as well as her father). I mean if Caroline and Stephanie were my aunts (especially Caroline! I heart her!) I'd REALLY want to meet and have some kind of bond with them. I don't know, maybe I'm dreaming a sappy dream, but it would be nice for them to welcome Jazmin and be a big happy family....
Ani
Toledo said:You are both right. And I'll add that we will see the press targeting more on every step Jazmin Grace makes than on the advetures of Nicole and Alexander. In terms of press interest, the Costes seem to be yesterdays news in more ways than one now that the press hounds (or hyenas) are ready to circle on Jazmin Grace and Tamara Rotolo.
As I said, best thing for her is to pack and go where she can be close to her father and get the security needed. Tamara can visit.
future princess said:is there a possibility Albert will adopt one of them (alexandre or jazmin)? i mean it happened before with Prince Louis to daughter Princess Charlotte right? or he will just let andrea rule in the future?
sorry i'm just new...