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Thanks for the info Henri M.
linda85 said:Were they married in a Catholic ceremony?
Henri M. said:Most likely it is a heirloom from the Pallavicini family. It is also possible that it is a loan from the Württemberg ducal family (aunt Hélène Marchioness Pallavicini née Duchess de Württemberg).
Hélène Duchess of Württemberg is the second spouse of Frederico Marquess Pallavicini who is an uncle to the groom (a younger brother to Alfonso's father). Uncle Frederico first married Maria Countess Kinsky von Wchinitz und Tettau and later with Hélène Duchess of Württemberg.
The groom's father Carlo Allessandro Marquess Pallavicini died two years ago. The groom's mother Donna Avogara, the Dowager Marchioness Carlo Pallavicini née Dei Conti Azzoni Avogadro still is alive. I don't know if she did attend the wedding.
Indeed it is! On the one hand, we all tend to feel a certain easy familiarity with "our own kind" however we all define that individually. But then again, I do get a sense that a lot of these old world nobles are in a way mentally confined and wouldn't want to be caught dead with a hunky, honest, smart, hardworking, plummer let's say. Instead, they do what's expected of them: marry the kids of friends of their parents. I'm of two minds on this one: I'm simultaneously relieved and disappointed Mathilde's sister didn't marry a hunky plummer..GrandDuchess said:[..] Interesting to see that nobles continue to marry nobles quite often, while royalty are now marrying commoners more and more often. Interesting development, I would say.
Hear hear! That's got to be the surprise duo for all us royalty watchers!GrandDuchess said:Great to see Maximilian & Angela of Liechtenstein! We don't see them very often.
princess olga said:Feel a bit sorry for Gabriel, as his outfit mustve been awfully hot. By the way, can't help but notice, once again, how awfully pale Mathilde's kids look compared to everyone else, as if they either havent' seen the sun yet this year, or if they're anemic. Perhaps their mother has them use a sunscreen with a high PDF, or whatever that's called...
princess olga said:By the way, can't help but notice, once again, how awfully pale Mathilde's kids look compared to everyone else, as if they either havent' seen the sun yet this year, or if they're anemic. Perhaps their mother has them use a sunscreen with a high PDF, or whatever that's called...
She´s the women with the red dress, the off-white hat and the bright smile, hidden behind Hélène.CASSARD said:i don't see the mother of Elisabeth? Where is she?
The name of groom´ s mother is according to Henri M. (post #94) Donna Avogara, the Dowager Marchioness Carlo Pallavicini née Dei Conti Azzoni Avogadro. Hélène (* 1979) is Mathilde´s youngest sister.Emily said:Oh great! More photos of this pretty wedding - thank you for them. I have a couple of questions, is Helene the name of the groom's mother? And also, is the nanny with the children named "Fie"? Is this the same one that was reading to the children at the christening of Emmanuel and who was on the bike ride with them on the recent photo shoot? If this is all the same nanny she sure seems to have a great, loving relationship with Elisabeth and Gabriel -- what a treasure she must be!
Gabriel and Elisabeth are accompanied by their nanny Petra. She is with them since Elisabeth’s birth. And you are right; Petra is pictured many times with them (e.g. on the beach at Elisabeth’s first summer holiday, reading a book at Emmanuel’s baptism and on the bike during the last photo session). Petra shares the work with a second nanny, but I don’t know her name - so maybe this is “Fie” and she took care of Emmanuel on the wedding day?
BTW here is a pic of Fie(?) during vacation in France 2003.
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johann said:The name of groom´ s mother is according to Henri M. (post #94) Donna Avogara, the Dowager Marchioness Carlo Pallavicini née Dei Conti Azzoni Avogadro. quote]
Thank you. I was confused as to whether Donna was a title or a first name -- so I assume her first name is Donna Avogara. The photos continue to be beautiful. Catherine I love the photo you posted of Elisabeth and Gabriel greeting the priests!
Alison20 said:Hullo, I am a new member from Scotland.
I seem to remember reading when Mathilde married Philippe that her father was given a higher title (perhaps from Baron to Count?). Does anyone know if that was the case?