Countess Elisabeth d'Udekem d'Acoz & Marquis Alfonso Pallavicini - 20 & 22 July 2006

[Cathérine Bergeyck]

Witnesses at the religious ceremony were: Count Charles-Henri d'Udekem d'Acoz, countess Honorine d’Ursel, marquis Edouardo Pallavicini, Prince Hugo von Liechtenstein, Hervé Thibaut de Maisières and Alexandra Olsufief.

the mass was in French, Italian and German.

http://www.dhnet.be/dhinfos/article.phtml?id=152844

 

[Alison20]

Hannelore, thank you for quoting Henri M's explanation of the Netherlands nobility (posting no. 62). I know how the British nobility 'works' but I also know that each country has evolved its own law and traditions. It is something I am very interested in.

 

[Henri M.]

Doña and Donna are formally an 'mrs' in English, but there is a difference in the use of these words in Spanish and Italian.

Usually a Mr and Mrs are:
Signor e Signora (Italian)
Señor y Señora (Spanish)

Slightly more formal are
Don e Donna (Italian)
Don y Doña (Spanish)

Donna Avogara dei Conti Azzoni Avogadro (the groom's mother) is best translated as: Lady Avogara from the Counts Azzoni Avogadro

Queen Paola was:
Donna Paola dei Principi Ruffo di Calabria and is best translated as: Lady Paola from the Princes Ruffo di Calabria

Queen Fabiola was:
Doña Fabiola de Mora y Aragón and is best translated as: Lady Fabiola (from the Marquesses and Counts) de Mora and Aragón.

Ms. Zorreguieta was never called Doña Máxima but always 'Señora Zorreguieta' in official documents. Her parents were Senor Zorreguieta and Señora Cerruti de Zorreguieta. Never Don Jorge or Doña María del Carmen. Princess Máxima's titles in Spanish are: Su Alteza Real la Princesa Máxima de los Países Bajos, Princesa de Orange-Nassau, Señora de Amsberg.
And that is correct indeed.

 

[princess olga]

I hope Princess Mathilde has sunscreen slathered all over them. Children of that age really shouldn't be tanned at all, since it's easy to control their movements and whether or not they have sunscreen on. The sun is not your friend, and a suntan is just sun damage. Aside from the potential health issues, these children, particularly the little princess, will be photographed for their entire lives, best to avoid leathery skin and wrinkles.

Royaltywatcher, I agree with you on the importance of putting on sunscreen and I don't want to make this into a discussion about the benefits of our best star, the sun, but to clarify my point, I didn't mean to imply kids should be on the beach all day tanning like chocolate chip cookies. But all the same the sun IS our friend: we need outside daylight to get vitamine D. Especially kids should play outside for some time each day to get the minimal dosis of these vitamins. And no, that won't necessarily result in looking like a raisin, either.

Please don't get me wrong, I think Mathilde's kids are adorable and especially little Elizabeth looked like a character out of a painting with those lovely flowers in her hair, but again, these kids are paler than anyone else in these pictures, that was my only observation.

 

[Katrianna]

What a lovely wedding! Thank you to all for the pictures and Henri M., your explanations and information were educating.

 

[Marie-Caroline]

Hervé Thibaut de Maisières

Witnesses at the religious ceremony were: Count Charles-Henri d'Udekem d'Acoz, countess Honorine d’Ursel, marquis Edouardo Pallavicini, Prince Hugo von Liechtenstein, Hervé Thibaut de Maisières and Alexandra Olsufief.

Question : Is he a grandson of General-Major Gilbert Thibaut de Maisières who was Flag Lieutenant to the young Prince Albert and very appreciated by the royal family?

 

[Cathérine Bergeyck]

from royalpress

 

[morhange]

Is the place where they married the same Bastogne that was one of the towns under seige (not sure if that's the right term) during the Battle of the Bulge? The miniseries Band of Brothers featured a town called Bastogne, so I'm curious as to whether or not this is the same town?

 

[jm83au]

why was lorenz and astrid not there yer claire and luarent were?

 

[purple_platinum]

The bride's father Count Patrick d'Udekem d'Acoz escorts his daughter bride Countess Elisabeth D'Udekem d'Acoz to her weddding with Margrave Alfonso Pallavicini at St. Pieter church. The 29-year-old Countess is the sister of Crown Princess Mathilde of Belgium. The civil wedding took place on Thursday, July 20, 2006.
Bastonge, Belgium

photo from Nieboer

 

[Cathérine Bergeyck]

Is the place where they married the same Bastogne that was one of the towns under seige (not sure if that's the right term) during the Battle of the Bulge? The miniseries Band of Brothers featured a town called Bastogne, so I'm curious as to whether or not this is the same town?

Yes, it's the same town! Btw Mathilde's father was present at a commemoration of the battle of the Bulge in Bastogne last year.

 

[Henri M.]

why was lorenz and astrid not there yer claire and luarent were?

This was no wedding in the Belgian royal family.

In essence it was a wedding in a foreign noble family with the the bride coming from the future King's family-in-law.

That the Duke and Duchess of Brabant (Philippe & Mathilde) did attend the wedding, was in the line of expectation. That Queen Fabiola, Prince Laurent and Princess Claire did attend the wedding as well, was a nice geste from them.

And of course the newlywed Marchioness Pallavicini simply is Aunt Elisabeth for Princess Elisabeth and Prince Gabriel, who acted as brideschildren.

 

[Al_bina]

Sisters are completely different

Crown Princess Mathilde and her sister seem opposite in their demeanor. Marchioness Pallavicini is so "earthy", whereas Crown Princess is a "blue blood out-and-out" in each her gesture.

 

[mtbcm]

Crown Princess Mathilde and her sister seem opposite in their demeanor. Marchioness Pallavicini is so "earthy", whereas Crown Princess is a "blue blood out-and-out" in each her gesture.

I think I understand what you say. But I think the main reason is that being a Noble but not a Royal make brides to relax more and enjoy the weddings in a more natural way.

I thought Countess Elisabeth 'Udekem looked every inch a very happy bride and a fullfilled woman, and she didn't hesitate in showing in every smile and loving gesture towards her fiancé and husband.

Princess Mathilde also looks more shy than her sister, so it is natural that shy and calm woman make bluer princesses . But I agree with you Mathilde is the epithome of "blue blood out-and-out".

I've been running from the computer to the tv, chasing my kids "Mommy's got to check something"

And your efforts were very appreciated... I'm on hollidays but from time to time I came to the thread to check in your reports and photos...

Thank you all for sharing the photos. It was a happy wedding, from the atmosphere one can get from pictures, of course.

Looks like the bride enjoys the outfits with that kind of neck. In a wedding that Katherine Bergeyck posted at Mathilde's Family thread she repeated the model, I think is suits her making her even taller and elegant. But what I loved most was her happy and fullfiled smile.

Regards,
mtbcm

 

[Cathérine Bergeyck]

from point de vue



1. countess Anne Komorowska (mother of the bride) and marquis Edoardo Pallavicini (brother of the groom)
2. countess Fleur von Goëss and her cousin prince Charles-Philippe d'Orléans
3. princess Sonia Poniatowski with count Louis de Limburg Stirum and his wife
4. baroness Priscilla de Broqueville and her sister baroness Astrid de Broqueville
5. countess Hélène d'Udekem d'Acoz (sister of the bride) and prince Hugo von Liechtenstein

 

[Emily]

Bless you, CAtherine!! We must be on the same train of thought today. I came to this thread earlier this morning hoping for more pictures since there were practically none in 'Hola', and 'Gala' magazine hasn't arrived at the bookstore for two weeks now! Love the pictures -- this was such a pretty wedding.

 

[princess olga]

http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scannen0005gs6.jpg

Are the D'Udekem girls the REAL Miller sisters, or WHAT?

 

[magnik]

http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scannen0005gs6.jpg

Are the D'Udekem girls the REAL Miller sisters, or WHAT?

Why you think that?!

 

[Emily]

I think they are much classier than the Miller sisters proving that money cannot buy class. Another question -- is Edouardo Pallavicini married? I notice he is holding the hand of one of the bride children -- is that a child of his? Any ideas?

 

[magnik]

I think they are much classier than the Miller sisters proving that money cannot buy class. Another question -- is Edouardo Pallavicini married? I notice he is holding the hand of one of the bride children -- is that a child of his? Any ideas?

Yes. He has a daughter Violante with wife Francesca.

L2. Margravio Edoardo (* Treviso 7-11-1965), Patrizio Genovese.
= Roma 5-6-1999 Donna Francesca Visconti di Modrone, figlia di Conte Don Guido Carlo dei Duchi di Grazzano Visconti e di Maria Gloria Gorgone (* Milano 17-4-1972) (v.)
M1. Margravia Violante (* 2002)

More: http://www.sardimpex.com/pallavicini/Pallavicini06.htm

 

[princess olga]

Why you think that?!

I meant it somewhat tongue in cheek; remember the Miller daughters all married men who could satisfy anyone seeking the status money can't buy..Chantal a prince of Greece, her sister a Von Furstenberg, and the eldest married American royalty, a real Getty. (Some of these mariages didn't turn out that great as we know, but anyway, that's a different thread)

And my oh my, wouldn't these Miller girls in their heart of hearts have loved to marry even better than they did, namely a crown prince of an EXISTING throne, an Italian Marquis, and the third..well...tbd.

All I'm saying is, the D'Udekem girls, lovely as I believe they are, certainly marry within their own class, as is expected of them, boringly so almost. A Princess Stephanie that family didn't yield, is what I'm saying.

I think they are much classier than the Miller sisters proving that money cannot buy class.

No kidding, I totally agree with you: Mathilde is the classiest of the current crop of crown princesses in my opinion, hands down. She's got this perfect mix of being the star yet not overpowering her husband, but being an asset to him in a very positive way without seeming demure or coming across as less intelligent than he is, on the contrary. She also comes across as having respect for her fellow humans somehow in a way that even 'queen of hearts' Diana wished she possessed. Mathilde's a natural, and besides her sister, the only one who's coming close, by sheer will it seems, is Letizia, who's a study in modesty these days. Maxima is compared to Mathilde, akin to a somewhat crude (but friendly!) farmer, always overshadowing her shy husband whenever she gets a chance. (remember Maxima's wedding? Was Alexander even there? Didn't see him, no one did.) And Mary, she is a bit of a cipher to me even now. Can't decide if her photogenicness is a post-Fred add-on or what.

Mathilde though is an amazing crown princess but her sister Elisabeth also carries that special D'Udekem karma as her wedding pictures prove. If Elisabeth had married a crown prince of her own, she'd be as just great as a royal consort, I'd bet.

 

[delphineperrine]

elisabeth d'udekem wedding

I am living in Belgium and some friends of mine went to school with mathilde's sisters and I can tell you that there is NO WAY you can compare them to the Miller's sisters.

They did NOT grow up in wealth AT ALL.

Before mathilde's wedding the family was kind of "cheap".

 

[magnik]

DON'T compare d'Udekem d'Acoz girls to Miller's sisters.
THEY are different, came from different worlds and have different social backgrounds.
Miller's looks more like celebrities, affected, they doesn't have d'Ud'A style, manners and all that what young, good educated ladies should have etc...

 

[Emily]

?cheap -- can you explain what you mean by that? I wonder if you mean a 'modest' upbringing? The d'U d'A's strike me as kids raised by parents who have, and have successfully passed on, real values.
And...I agree with Princess Olga that to me there is no question that Mathilde is the classiest Crown Princess of them all.....she is the real thing, which I think is easily discernible by the fact that she is so unselfconscious; she is a natural who has the innate good instincts to carry off her role with aplomb.

 

[Cathérine Bergeyck]

I think Delphine meant a bit poor in stead of a bit cheap ... ?

 

[delphineperrine]

elisabeth's wedding

I think Delphine meant a bit poor in stead of a bit cheap ... ?

first of all, i LOVE the royal family.

I would like to explain to you that in Mathilde's family, the girls where passing the used shoes from one to another.

The parent's did not spend money on clothes, jewels, haircuts etc. BUT gave a GREAT education to their children.

I was giving my opinion to a comparaison with the Miller's sisters. To me they are coming from two different spaces.

 

[uriel]

Totally agree with Princess Olga: "Mathilde is the classiest of the current crop of crown princesses".

 

[Marengo]

I meant it somewhat tongue in cheek; remember the Miller daughters all married men who could satisfy anyone seeking the status money can't buy..Chantal a prince of Greece, her sister a Von Furstenberg, and the eldest married American royalty, a real Getty. (Some of these mariages didn't turn out that great as we know, but anyway, that's a different thread)

And my oh my, wouldn't these Miller girls in their heart of hearts have loved to marry even better than they did, namely a crown prince of an EXISTING throne, an Italian Marquis, and the third..well...tbd.

All I'm saying is, the D'Udekem girls, lovely as I believe they are, certainly marry within their own class, as is expected of them, boringly so almost. A Princess Stephanie that family didn't yield, is what I'm saying.


No kidding, I totally agree with you: Mathilde is the classiest of the current crop of crown princesses in my opinion, hands down. She's got this perfect mix of being the star yet not overpowering her husband, but being an asset to him in a very positive way without seeming demure or coming across as less intelligent than he is, on the contrary. She also comes across as having respect for her fellow humans somehow in a way that even 'queen of hearts' Diana wished she possessed. Mathilde's a natural, and besides her sister, the only one who's coming close, by sheer will it seems, is Letizia, who's a study in modesty these days. Maxima is compared to Mathilde, akin to a somewhat crude (but friendly!) farmer, always overshadowing her shy husband whenever she gets a chance. (remember Maxima's wedding? Was Alexander even there? Didn't see him, no one did.) And Mary, she is a bit of a cipher to me even now. Can't decide if her photogenicness is a post-Fred add-on or what.

Mathilde though is an amazing crown princess but her sister Elisabeth also carries that special D'Udekem karma as her wedding pictures prove. If Elisabeth had married a crown prince of her own, she'd be as just great as a royal consort, I'd bet.

a few remarks:
1) I don´t see how an italian marquis is a ´better´ catch then a prince of Furstenberg.
2) I think you were the only one who missed the Prince of Orange on his weddingday, he was there, looking radiant, in love and a bit overpowered. I do not think that Maxima outshines her husband that much, both are very popular anyway.
3) I do not think Maxima is a farmer.
4) back to Belgium. I think the Belgian nobility is the only one in the world who still mostly (almost exclusively) are marrying among themselves. Thus it was only to be expected that Elisabeth would marry a noble (she dated royalty even), as will probably Helene and Charles-Henri.
5) Though Mathilde´s karma works for Belgium, I think in other countries she would have been less suited (as other crownprincesses are less-suited for Belgium). Not every country is a great admiror of the modest, silent, discrete and introverted type (sadly) and some exhuberence does not mean that a person lacks modesty (we do not know them personally, do we?). So I do not see how Norway would have a better crownprincess in Mathilde for example.

At the moment I like all crownprincesses (though some more then others) and I think all of them are doing a good job in their respective countries.

 

[Hannelore]

I think the Belgian nobility is the only one in the world who still mostly (almost exclusively) are marrying among themselves. Thus it was only to be expected that Elisabeth would marry a noble (she dated royalty even), as will probably Helene and Charles-Henri.

Well, according to Valérie d'Alkemade, who made a study about this, it's about 60% of the Belgian nobility/aristocracy who marries within the own circle (Belgian or international). So far from everybody. This having said, I always expected Elisabeth to marry someone from her own circles, just as I expect her younger brother and sister will.

 

[rominet09]

In Point de Vue mag at the wedding there were pix of Helene with a Prince of Liechenstein -not sure about the spelling- they said they didn t leave each others'side
Does anyone know if it is a budding romance ???

Thank you very much