General News for the Wales Family 1: September 2022-March 2024


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It is not like I am overly in doubt about the state of affairs - but suspicious it is! It is all a little bit much, what is going on in the UK. The King is ill, Princess Catherine was cut open, the husband of Lady Gabriella dead, Prince William has lost weight...

Some good news would be welcome!
I can’t help but smile at this. Perhaps we will be thinking conspiracy theories next. Experience teaches us that life throws up unpredictable events. There’s been relatively little illness in the Royal Family ( including the extended family) in recent years and some considerable longevity. It is undoubtedly an unfortunate situation to have several serious and sad events so close together, and whilst I do accept the public statements haven’t always been helpful, that’s not enough to suggest there’s something suspicious at play.
 
I can’t help but smile at this. Perhaps we will be thinking conspiracy theories next. Experience teaches us that life throws up unpredictable events. There’s been relatively little illness in the Royal Family ( including the extended family) in recent years and some considerable longevity. It is undoubtedly an unfortunate situation to have several serious and sad events so close together, and whilst I do accept the public statements haven’t always been helpful, that’s not enough to suggest there’s something suspicious at play.
Yes and to add there is a saying that goes "when it rains, it pours" meaning that when bad things happen they tend to happen all at once and intensely. It is certainly pouring right now for the BRF, but that is part of life, and they are navigating their way through it privately and publicly.
 
I must add the communication service of BP is bad, unclear and evasive:
Cancer but not the prostate
Did not attend for personal reasons
Found dead in an adress in Gloucester.

Very unfortunate wording indeed.

A considerable part of the media has already turned against the Waleses.
Their PR team has handled the situation so poorly.
 
I must add the communication service of BP is bad, unclear and evasive:
Cancer but not the prostate
Did not attend for personal reasons
Found dead in an adress in Gloucester.
And Sarah battling cancer again too
 
And they bot attended Christmas Service last year. So when it was no Problem to be seen at the same Event then Andrew why suddenly now.
Well all of that was before the January list was released. Andrew could've been lying to his family saying there's no way he'd appear, then "poof" there was his name. Charles has clearly decided it doesn't bother him on a personal level since there was no criminal charges, but I don't blame other family members for getting fed-up with Andrew.
 
Very unfortunate wording indeed.

A considerable part of the media has already turned against the Waleses.
Their PR team has handled the situation so poorly.
I can't find any media that has turned against the Wales's. Please feel free to share any articles to prove your point. I am only seeing articles reporting on the mass hysteria on social media regarding the PsOW's.
 
I can't find any media that has turned against the Wales's. Please feel free to share any articles to prove your point. I am only seeing articles reporting on the mass hysteria on social media regarding the PsOW's.

Go check the Australian and US media.
 
I hope that the massive speculation about her condition doesn't force HRH The Princess of Wales to appear in public before she's ready, even if that's after the Easter deadline. The body will do what the body will do, regardless of the timetable.

As for why there aren't any pictures like there are with HM The King, people often feel better than they look; they probably don't want the public to misconstrue the severity of HRH The Princess of Wales's condition based on her looking worse than the positive progress would imply.

Which brings me to the last point: every communication we've gotten so far has said that HRH The Princess of Wales is doing well, and it's not like the Palace press to outright lie in lieu of not saying anything at all. Plus, they said she would be recuperating until Easter, so everything is going according to plan. I say no news is good news.
 
I beg to differ. I don't think it is King's/ BP's communication that is bad, but rather Wales'/KP's.
Buckingham Palace has been very transparent regarding the King's health. They've only stopped short of telling us the type of cancer the King has. In my opinion, the public need not know that information. However, they've been conscious to show the King hard at work and the video of the King receiving those thousands of get well cards was just brilliant PR -good optics.

In contrast, Kensington Palace and the Wales' office has been as vague as ever. Failing to attend a short memorial service one's godfather (especially in lieu of the fact that he did not attend the funeral) for "personal reasons" sounds very trivial. Almost as though the Prince of Wales wasn't in the mood to go. Even if the PoW, just needed a "mental health day" that would have been more understandable and certainly in line with couple's agenda on promoting mental health.
I also believe it would've been good PR to show the family visiting Catherine at the hospital or even releasing a photo of the family at home together.
I agree, Alisa. Buckingham Palace was open about King Charles (examination of the prostate, with a bit of royal influencing "each man should do it", folowed by: during this procedure we found cancer somewhere else, His Majesty is starting treatment immediately, etc.).

It wouldn't have hurt KP to disclose a little bit of Kate's issue. For example, if it was endometriosis it could have shed a light on a very painful and harsh reality for a lot of women. Alas, they chose differently.
 
I don't think she has to disclose whatever was her health issue. Also I agree with others that a picture is not necessary especially if you are not feeling or looking at your best. Personally I think just a quick, short statement thanking all the well wishers and looking forward to returning royal duties when she is ok to do so would go a long way at this point.
 
I think we have to remember it seems likely Catherine's op was major and likely came about with close to little notice so she and William may not yet have had time to process what the issue was and the fact she quite quickly was going to be incapacitated for months. That would be a good reason not to release more info the public, especially at the start. They did say more might be released when Catherine was ready or words that effect if I recall correctly.

I agree though that this hasn't played out well and the fact there is speculation in the media inc in newspapers and even the BBC reporting on the rumours and fallout of William's decision to pull out the memorial service shows KP isn't on top of things. Generously I'll accept this may be in part out of their control. When Catherine found out she needed her op no one knew Charles would also need a minor procedure. No one knew that minor procedure would lead to a more serious health issue requiring Charles to pull out of all public facing engagements. I guess we can also possibly add whatever 'personal matter' William had being unplanned and unforseen.
The contrast between BP and KP reactions to their principal's ill health has been striking and that hasn't helped KPs case because while BP is giving us more - regular pics of Charles at church, being driven in London, meeting the PM, looking at card etc it only serves to highlight that we haven't seen anything of Catherine. Yet I also understand the difference in approaches - Charles is Head of State and has a number of constitutional duties to do which, if he can't, would require someone stepping in for him. That is why BP no doubt feels it is important to show he is still working, meeting the PM etc behind the scenes to prove the constitutional duties are still going ahead and there is no power vacuum, no need for CoS or for William to become Regent. That is a matter of constitutional importance - do we have a functioning Head of State? Is what is needed to be done being done. Just look at the coverage of Biden's age and abilities around the world and maybe it makes senses why BP has reacted in the way it has. Charles is also a newly crowned King who has already had comments about his age, being so old upon accession etc so for BP showing him up and about walking around and the like is important.
For KP, Catherine has little if any constitutional importance, she has no duties that if missed could cause constitutional problems or need someone to step in for her. While I would say what she and the other members of the RF do is important, constitutionally it is not. She is also an active, fit, healthy woman who no one has had health concerns about and how does value her privacy massively.
I think KP's strategy would have probably gone down okay if Charles hadn't been so ill so we didn't have to contrast two very different approaches. I also think it would have gone down okay if William had been seen a little bit more and him cancelling on Tuesday really didn't help (though was I'm sure necessary). As they live on the Windsor estate now its no surprise we haven't seen anything of Catherine but then again, as we have seen absolutely nothing of her that leads to rumours. If we had seen a pic of her walking in the grounds of KP, the more public parts of Windsor or even just being driven in or out of Windsor or Anmer that might have helped stem some of the speculation and rumours. A pic of her looking at get well cards etc like Charles did would have done wonders. As it is we have literally seen nothing of her for months meaning people start to let their imaginations run wild. But it is no doubt just that. Her siblings have both been on holiday in the Caribbean over half term, unlikely for a close knit family if she was ill or something was wrong. They have stuck to the plans we were told - no public appearances until after Easter, all reports say she is doing well.

So I don't think anything is up, I think Catherine is recovering well and her and William simply see no reason to release a picture of her or announce more details as they value their privacy. I do think KP needs to reflect on why their strategy hasn't worked as well as it should - even if that is accepting it may of if only Catherine was unwell right now.
 
I absolutely adore Charles for sharing his cancer diagnosis in an effort to spread awareness about cancer. I genuinely think it's gonna have a massive impact on so many levels.

That said, you should never be forced to be an advocate. On the subject of Kate's illness, I trust they share the amount of information Kate is comfortable with the world knowing and that is exactly the amount they should be sharing. Kate is a royal but she is just as entitled to keep personal information personal as everyone else are (and on the subject of royals, QEII and whatever illness she suffered from near the end comes to mind).

William's "personal reasons" on the other hand... Yeah, that's tragically poor communications work. If they didn't want to disclose the actual reason, why not just say he'd got a virus or something? Out of fear he'd be seen somewhere, clearly not virus-ridden? I think the worst thing about that whole train-wreck is that it prompts calls for more openness about Kate's situation which is a completely unfair form of guilt by association.
 
From their perspective, I think KP is pretty happy with their strategy and are content with how it is playing out. From their perspective too, the strategy has worked out exactly the way they wanted it to. It is right and expected that not everyone would share their perspective or agree with their strategy but they are the ones with the skin in the game and it is their prerogative to do what they think is most beneficial for them not what others think.

BBC's analysis summarises their stance: Analysis: A royal dilemma as public curiosity over Kate grows

Advisers to the Waleses are well aware of the online gossip - they read it, they chat about it, they know the conversation. But they stress that nothing has changed.

A spokesperson for Catherine brushed off social media speculation. "Kensington Palace made it clear in January the timelines of the princess's recovery. We said we'd only be providing significant updates. That guidance stands." There is, of course, the issue of privacy. For Prince William, protecting his wife while she recovers is paramount. Kensington Palace quite simply does not want the details of her health made public and aides feel no need to say anymore about it. But when Catherine does return to public duty the scrutiny will be intense. All eyes will be on her... Her team are well aware of the interest there will be in that moment so protecting her now has added importance. They will choose when and how we first see her in public again very carefully...

Yes, there is a clamour for information but "so be it" seems to be the mood. This is a princess who wants to keep things private.


Daily Beast's sources are even more explicit on their perspective that their strategy is working: Royal Friends Dismiss ‘Toxic’ Kate Middleton Speculation

...However, friends of William and other royal sources told The Daily Beast the palace would not be pressured by “toxic” speculation into changing their carefully planned approach of saying as little as possible about the princess’ recovery.

One friend, asked about media commentary suggesting that the palace should be more open, such as an assertion in the Daily Mail that “by saying nothing, (the royals) invite speculation,” said: “The newspapers are always telling the family how to run their press operations. This time—surprise surprise—they seem to think it would be a good idea for the royal family to give them more information about Kate. William isn’t a big one for doing stuff because the Daily Mail says he should.”

A former royal staffer who still has friends and contacts inside the palace said: “Anyone who expects the palace to suddenly start giving lengthy updates on Kate will be disappointed. The principal aim of her being sequestered is to guard her privacy. I’m sure the press hate it because it is working. There is a really, really small bubble of people who know exactly what is going on.”

Indeed, the paucity of information made available to the media about Kate has been remarkable in and of itself...

The news blackout has been astonishingly successful, with almost nothing emerging apart from the very few crumbs of information the palace has sanctioned...

...While unfounded theories as to what is “really” going on” with Kate are ten a penny on social media, friends of the royal family are united in believing the truth is simpler and less dramatic. “They just want her to be able to recover in peace,” said another friend of the family. “The idea that they are going to be swayed by the idiots on social media saying she has been abducted by aliens is laughable.”

...The friend added that they had no special insight into Kate’s condition but said, “The whole world knows what’s ‘going on’ because they have actually been remarkably open: she had abdominal surgery, it went as planned, it wasn’t cancer, she is keeping to herself until after Easter and she is doing well. ‘Case closed’ in my humble opinion.”


Essentially, the speculation in the media is not a concern for KP neither do they see it as PR failure. KP is very adept at releasing captivating pictures and videos of the family. They don't need anyone to advise them re how to keep the public engaged. They have simply chosen not to do so and it is their prerogative. Similar with William's absence from a private family event. He has expressed his reasons to the stakeholders that matter, the Greek royal family. He does not owe the public any explanations. It is a family event not an official duty and he decided that 'personal matter' is how he chooses to couch the reason. His prerogative.

William is setting lines in the sand between his public life and his private life and setting out markers on how he chooses to live as a public leader. He doesn't take steers from members of the public or media, whether print, broadcast or social. He takes a considered view, assumes a stance, releases a statement and sticks to it whatever the fall out. Importantly, he takes any criticism on the chin, neither complaining or explaining. He will do what he thinks is right for him and his family; people are free to express their opinion about his actions in whatever way that suits them; he is also free not to acknowledge or respond to any of the expressed opinions. All parties exercise their freedom. A win-win.

In this age of over-sharing and social media pile-ons, it is a very counter-cultural approach and it takes a man of strong convictions and strong character to pull it off. He has now set the precedent that he will not be swayed by public/media pressure but will act based on his own convictions, wholly owning the consequences. This is how he chooses to live. Not everyone will agree with his actions and approach and that is fine too.

By all accounts, recent polling in the UK and US demonstrate that his strategy is working very well for them so far. We'll see how it plays out in the months to come.
 
Exactly. I'm in the communications business and I can say with some degree of certainty that any suspicions regarding all/any of these situations has been caused by the very poor choice of words in the Palace's statements. Very very poor.
As a communicator, I agree that it seems that way from our vantage point. But, you have to go back to the goal of what they were trying to accomplish. "Our" goal is to hear everything that is going on in the royals' private lives. Catherine and William's goal may have been to acknowledge the situation with as little information as possible and keep the intrusion to a minimum. Two very different plans needed to accomplish those things.

Although more speculation is popping up as time goes on, Kensington Palace's original statement would have accomplished the second goal.
 
William's "personal reasons" on the other hand... Yeah, that's tragically poor communications work. If they didn't want to disclose the actual reason, why not just say he'd got a virus or something? Out of fear he'd be seen somewhere, clearly not virus-ridden? I think the worst thing about that whole train-wreck is that it prompts calls for more openness about Kate's situation which is a completely unfair form of guilt by association.
I agree, I thought that was a very poorly worded statement considering the current situation. It was also really the fuel behind the current "where's Kate" hysteria. If he had just showed up, or released a better statement about why he couldn't be there, a lot of this could have been avoided or pushed back a bit longer.
 
The rumour mill and the trolls have been going gangbusters.
 
As a communicator, I agree that it seems that way from our vantage point. But, you have to go back to the goal of what they were trying to accomplish. "Our" goal is to hear everything that is going on in the royals' private lives. Catherine and William's goal may have been to acknowledge the situation with as little information as possible and keep the intrusion to a minimum. Two very different plans needed to accomplish those things.

Although more speculation is popping up as time goes on, Kensington Palace's original statement would have accomplished the second goal.
Well said!
 
The media in the UK has not turned against the Waleses at all. Any media outlet which turns against someone because they have the misfortune to need a serious operation needs to take a long, hard look at itself. What do they want her to do? Post pictures of her scar on Instagram?
 
One of the leaders of all those speculations is the Daily Mail. And if you take a better look, you can notice that they thrive on royal „scandals“ and criticism at such a degree that if at some point there aren't any, DM creates them.

And the sad thing is that when they start about something, other media join them and we get a chain reaction.

Just remember their major news in the last few months. If there was any action concerning Harry and Meghan, DM had a series of articles all talking about the same thing. As soon as there was no more interest in those articles, they started publishing articles either about Frederik's trip to Spain or Letizia's former brother-in-law. Then they returned to Harry/Meghan, then again Frederik or Letizia, and so on and on... And in Denmark and Spain those Frederik and Letizia stories were never as big scandal as DM tried to convince us.

So no, when DM starts publishing one article after another about William's absence from a private family event as if he skipped a major state event and a constitutional crisis is on the way, I dismiss those stories or opinions. And so should anyone else.
 
Sorry but sending out a quick statement on your letter head thanking the public for their concern and well wishes is not going to interfere with her recovery period of which she is entitled. The lack of any statement at this point concerns the public.
 
Sorry but sending out a quick statement on your letter head thanking the public for their concern and well wishes is not going to interfere with her recovery period of which she is entitled. The lack of any statement at this point concerns the public.

They already did. In this statement when leaving hospital. Then William did it again in a speech where he thanked the public for the good wishes for Catherine and Charles.

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Thanks jetsam. I think we are so use to seeing her and hearing updates about what she is working on that her absence is greatly felt.
 
In their defense, maybe KP used the "personal reasons" argument because the Memorial was, in fact, a personal commitment? I guess if William had to cancel an official appearance more details would be given to the press.
 
The Princess of Wales was spotted Monday for the first time since December as she continues to rest in private following her planned abdominal surgery earlier this year.

In pictures obtained by The Post, the Princess of Wales, sat in the passenger seat of an Audi being driven by her mom, Carole, near Windsor Castle.


 
The Princess of Wales was spotted Monday for the first time since December as she continues to rest in private following her planned abdominal surgery earlier this year.

In pictures obtained by The Post, the Princess of Wales, sat in the passenger seat of an Audi being driven by her mom, Carole, near Windsor Castle.


That looks more like Pippa than Kate to me.
 
Pippa face is nit round like that. .

Although I don’t think photos was meant to be seen or taken but it still nice to see her and appear felt good enough to go out even if a short drive.
 
I think they photo was set up by KP - I'm sure the Princess has been out in Windsor Great Park being driven by her parents or William or protection officers numerous times before this and not been photographed. But after last week and the rumour mill in overdrive, I think a discrete call was made of a time when she would be driving past if a photograph wished to be taken
 
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