Moonmaiden23
Imperial Majesty
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Hi GG...been there done that.
Yep, he is a saint!
Yep, he is a saint!
Mariel, if I remember correctly both Maxima and Princess Michael received dispensations from the Holy See to raise their children as Protestants. It's very rare that such a dispensation is given, but neither of them violated Church law. Both are still Catholics in good standing.
What annoyed me about Victoria and her father receiving the Eucharist is that a baptized Catholic has to meet certain requirements before approaching the Sacrament(completely free from mortal sin, if necessary go to confession first) yet two Protestants who don't even accept Catholic teaching on this most sacred of all sacraments just mosey on up?? Bill Clinton caused quite an uproar during his Presidency when he did this...and the last two Popes have specifically called it an "abuse".
I prefer to think that the Swedish royals were simply unaware of the Catholic position on this, rather than that they were deliberately disrespectful.
Mariel, if I remember correctly both Maxima and Princess Michael received dispensations from the Holy See to raise their children as Protestants. It's very rare that such a dispensation is given, but neither of them violated Church law. Both are still Catholics in good standing.
What annoyed me about Victoria and her father receiving the Eucharist is that a baptized Catholic has to meet certain requirements before approaching the Sacrament(completely free from mortal sin, if necessary go to confession first) yet two Protestants who don't even accept Catholic teaching on this most sacred of all sacraments just mosey on up?? Bill Clinton caused quite an uproar during his Presidency when he did this...and the last two Popes have specifically called it an "abuse".
I prefer to think that the Swedish royals were simply unaware of the Catholic position on this, rather than that they were deliberately disrespectful.
Dont you feel sending The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester to such a high profile international event with all Heads of States and heirs to the throne, a bit too much undermining? Its not the coronation of King of Tonga, afterall..
And inseating order and protocol, they would be pushed to some corner of the Church..
Dont you feel sending The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester to such a high profile international event with all Heads of States and heirs to the throne, a bit too much undermining?
I would think it to be a bit inappropriate for a Protestant head of state (especially one, such as Queen Elizabeth, where being Catholic is essentially prohibited in the line of succession) to attend the ascension/inauguration of a new pope.
There are no plans in neither the Swedish nor the Norwegian royal calendar for anyone to go to the Inauguration of the pope on March 19.- Sweden: ?
- Norway: ?
Current illness taken into account you wouldn't see Elizabeth going. Knowing that Charles attended JPII funeral and Philip attended Benedicts inaugural mass without fuss, sending Charles wouldn't have been too bad.
Two Catholic Royal Ladies "in blanc" Queen Paola and Grand Duchess MT. The others
Princess of Asturia , Princess of Monaco and Princess of Liechtenstein "in black".
Mariel, if I remember correctly both Maxima and Princess Michael received dispensations from the Holy See to raise their children as Protestants. It's very rare that such a dispensation is given, but neither of them violated Church law. Both are still Catholics in good standing.
Which other heads of state and heirs are going that aren't Catholic?
Maxima and the Luxembourgs are going because they are Catholic. Yes Maxima is to be Queen of a Protestant country but it's quite lucky for her that she can get around going.
Wasn't the Princess of Monaco accorded the Privilège du blanc by Pope Benedidict XVI?
I guess she would have sent a more senior Royal if not for last year's sermon of the new pope on the 30. anniversary of the invasion of the Falkland islands.
The then Cardinal said, as reported by the Independant; ""We come to pray for those who have fallen, sons of the country who went out to defend their mother country, to reclaim that which is theirs and was usurped from them." And four years ago he said to the families of Argentine soldiers killed in the conflict before they travelled to the military cemetery on the islands: "Go and kiss this land which is ours, and seem to us far away."
Source: Falkland Islanders greet election of Argentine as Pope Francis with surprise - Americas - World - The Independent
Which is not a pleasant speech for HM whose son fought in the war, too and who, too, lost subjects who protected the islands from Argentinian invasion.
So I can very well understand that the British queen sent only the most minor Royals doing Royal duties to represent her when being represented she must be....
I guess she would have sent a more senior Royal if not for last year's sermon of the new pope on the 30. anniversary of the invasion of the Falkland islands.
Yes,I have seen her wearing the white veil during a private audience An.
Shortly after the wedding.
I totally agree that the Falklands have nothing to do here. The Duke of Gloucester is the Queen's senior cousin and he has recently represented her at two major occassions in Vatican. It's not like they'are sending Princess Michael.Falklands would have absolutely no bearing on who The Queen sent. Falklands has nothing to do with the royal family or the current Pope now. It's a political argument and Elizabeth is above politics.
Only RH are wearing white outfit
Charlene and the Monegasque RF is Catholic,so I don´t see any reason why she should not have the right to wear a white outfit!
No proper princess,especially someone who is married to the Crown prince or head of the Royal family, would dare to make such a mistake-for such an important meeting they (or their helping stylists/office) would do researches and make sure that they follow all the written and unwritten rules that are required to accept.
Raisa Gorbacheva raised many eyebrows in 1989 when she wore a bright red dress when meeting pope John Paul II.Anyway, today the papal dress code is optional...vide Cherie Blair and both female Irish Presidents.
No they won't...It's at the St.Peter Square,not inside the Basilica and they will be seated 2nd row as non -heads of State and non-Reigning Royals will.They do however represent HM The Queen Elizabeth,and therefore will be seated and treated accordingly.
I wonder why HM is not sending the Catholic Kents?