I have a question, not about the Pope at the Vatican but a bit more logistical. What happens with his personal effects in Argentina? Its not like he can go pop home to pick them up. Benedict didn't live to far from his home.
I have a question, not about the Pope at the Vatican but a bit more logistical. What happens with his personal effects in Argentina? Its not like he can go pop home to pick them up. Benedict didn't live to far from his home.
I was truly amazed when it was announced that the new Pontiff will be known as Pope Francis. It hasn't been official yet which St. Francis he is choosing to honor, but St. Francis of Assisi is the first that comes to my mind.
[Updated at 4:53 p.m. ET] We've just been given confirmation about which Francis the new pope is honoring in his choice of name.
The new pope took the name Francis in honor of St. Francis of Assisi because he is a lover of the poor, Vatican spokesman the Rev. Tom Rosica told CNN.
Also, the new pope should be known as Pope Francis, not Pope Francis I, Rosica said.
As cardinal Bergoglio was "runner up" in the conclave of 2005 when cardinal Ratzinger was elected pope, it's not that surprising with a quick vote.Anyway wasn't this vote quite fast? I believe they went in Monday or Tuesday to elect someone and come out Wednesday with a sure winner. I'm not Catholic so don't know much, but is his age going to cause a problem like it did for the former Pope? I know JP2 was Pope for decades but how old was he when he was elected?
Yes I can definitely see Maxima and WA visiting the new pope. Pity that she doesn't have "privilège du blanc" though.
He looks like a nice man (with the wrong views, but whatever, I guess that's mandatory if you wanna be the Pope). It's nice to see a Pope who's not European for once, and it's also really lovely to see how happy the South Americans are that an Argentinian cardinal was chosen, I bet Máxima is happy too.
Background information on Pope Francis I
Born: 17 December 1936
Where: Born in Buenos Aires to a Italian Railway worker and is one of five children.
He entered the Society of Jesus in 1958, he was ordained to the priesthood on December 13, 1969, by Archbishop Ramón José Castellano. Bergoglio succeeded Cardinal Quarracino on February 28, 1998. He was concurrently named ordinary for Eastern Catholics in Argentina, who lacked their own prelate. Pope John Paul II summoned the newly named archbishop to the consistory of February 21, 2001 in Vatican City and elevated Bergoglio with the papal honors of a cardinal. He was named to the Cardinal-Priest of Saint Robert Bellarmino.
In 2005 he was runner up to Benedict with 40 votes in the third ballot, 26 in the fourth.
People on the BBC have highlighted the fact he lives among his people, takes the bus/walks to work (I'm not too sure which), cooks his own meals.
He chose his name after St Francis of Assisi.
His views;
Liberation theology
Bergoglio is an accomplished theologian who distanced himself from liberation theology early in his career. He is thought to be close to Comunione e Liberazione, a conservative lay movement.
Abortion and euthanasia
Cardinal Bergoglio has invited his clergy and laity to oppose both abortion and euthanasia.[7]
Homosexuality
He has affirmed church teaching on homosexuality, though he teaches the importance of respecting individuals who are homosexual. He strongly opposed legislation introduced in 2010 by the Argentine Government to allow same-sex marriage, calling it a "real and dire anthropological throwback". In a letter to the monasteries of Buenos Aires, he wrote: "Let's not be naive, we're not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God." He has also insisted that adoption by homosexuals is a form of discrimination against children. This position received a rebuke from Argentine president Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, who said the church's tone was reminiscent of "medieval times and the Inquisition".
Church and AIDS
His doctrinal orthodoxy emphasizes Christ's mandate to love: he is well remembered for his 2001 visit to a hospice, in which he washed and kissed the feet of twelve AIDS patients.
Social justice
He consistently preaches a message of compassion towards the poor, but somewho? observers would like him to place a greater emphasis on issues of social justice. Rather than articulating positions on matters of political economy, Bergoglio prefers to emphasize spirituality and holiness, believing that this will naturally lead to greater concern for the suffering of the poor. He has, however, voiced support for social programs, and publicly challenged free-market policies.
Relations with the Argentine government
On April 15, 2005, a human rights lawyer filed a criminal complaint against Bergoglio, accusing him of conspiring with the junta in 1976 to kidnap two Jesuit priests, whom he, as superior of the Society of Jesus of Argentina in 1976, had asked to leave their pastoral work following conflict within the Society over how to respond to the new
He looks like a nice man (with the wrong views, but whatever, I guess that's mandatory if you wanna be the Pope). It's nice to see a Pope who's not European for once, and it's also really lovely to see how happy the South Americans are that an Argentinian cardinal was chosen, I bet Máxima is happy too.
Funny picFound this pic: some days ago at the Buenos Aires metro:
Anna Catherine said:Wrong views? Based on Lumutqueen's post, his views are in line with the Church's teaching.
Opinions and views are not wrong. The least you can do is respect him even if you don't agree with him. I bet he would do the same for you.
A total of 71 percent of American Catholics favor permitting the use of artificial birth control methods. Sixty-nine percent favor married priests, and 69 percent also favor women priests.
Sixty-two percent of Catholics favor legalizing same-sex marriage. Perhaps most startling is that 74 percent of Catholics would allow legal abortions with some conditions. Probably the most important finding for our discussion is that 78 percent of American Catholics say they would follow their own consciences rather than the pope's teaching on moral issues.
Other activists are angry over the positions Bergoglio, 76, has taken in recent years, as Argentina pursues investigations aimed at exposing those responsible for killing as many as 30,000 people, and finding traces of their victims. Some say he’s been more concerned about preserving the church’s image than providing evidence for Argentina’s many human rights trials.
“There’s hypocrisy here when it comes to the church’s conduct, and with Bergoglio in particular,” said Estela de la Cuadra, whose mother co-founded the Grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo activist group during the dictatorship to search for missing family members. “There are trials of all kinds now, and Bergoglio systematically refuses to support them.”
Bergoglio twice invoked his right under Argentine law to refuse to appear in open court in trials involving torture and murder inside the feared Navy Mechanics School and the theft of babies from detainees. When he eventually did testify in 2010, his answers were evasive, human rights attorney Myriam Bregman told the AP.
King Albert and Queen Paoal will attend the inauguration.
Begrotingscontrole uitgesteld voor inhuldiging paus
I doubt that any members of the Scandinavian royal families will attend, as they are all Lutheran.I guess it will be a royal event. Do we have any confirmation of whom we will see there?
I know, but still many royal families (reigning and not) are Catholics. It will be a royal gathering in any case.I doubt that any members of the Scandinavian royal families will attend, as they are all Lutheran.
I doubt that any members of the Scandinavian royal families will attend, as they are all Lutheran.