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Old 05-24-2010, 07:19 AM
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There is a pic of Alex, Alice and i think this is Alexia Niedzielski (?)
Well, i don't think Alex must be very well..
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:48 AM
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i wish i had your sources people,where do you find all these photos?lol
probably a little dizzy or drunk!
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:03 AM
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If he is the same as Alice, his sister, don't count on it that he's just drunk.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:55 AM
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I agree w/those that say Eugenie is scary - she's the only one of the gang that has never been photographed w/a boyfriend (or girlfriend ). I wonder if she's just too high maintenance for anyone to stick around long enough . I mean, Char has Alex; Tatiana has Andrea; Margherita has/had Ernst, Jr; Eugenie is always alone...but, someone correct me if she has a boyfriend is just private about her private life - can't imagine that's the case...
I read on TFS a while back that she was dating a guy who lived in Washington DC and went to Georgetown University. I think his name is Marc-Alexandre Saba. They were photographed together in Greece last summer, but I have no idea if they are still together or not. And you are right they were hardly ever at any events together. Although that could be because he was a student in the US and she lives in London, or maybe Paris?
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:36 AM
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^^Yeah, maybe Eugenie acts too much like a diva for most guys. I like the phrase "high maintenance." It seems to suit her. I remember back in the day when Paris Hilton was in her prime (I guess when she was doing that show with Nicole, what was it called?) and someone said that Paris would need to marry an extremely rich guy to pay for her lifestyle, because her fraction of the Hilton estate wouldn't cover it. I can imagine Eugenie being high maintenance like that, always *needing* the latest haute couture -- now, now, now!!

BTW, here is a picture of Eugenie & Marc around the time of Vanina Mandelli's wedding: http://www.flickr.com/photos/marchcovo/4634907776

I found an article (in French) about Felix Winckler from last June. It's about him and this guy named Victor Martin-Malburet. They organized an exposition of photographs from the US expedition to the Moon at the Palais de Tokyo in Paris. Victor inherited them from his father in 2002, when that father died, and he met Felix two years later. It says that Felix was, then, a student of business law and taxation. And we know Felix was then also Charlotte's boyfriend, and he studied at Université Panthéon-Assas (Paris 2) - A LA UNE. Felix, like Victor, owned a few of the photographs. The article says Felix comes from a family of art lovers and is himself an amateur curator and collector of some photos from the Apollo missions. The article: Victor Martin-Malburet et Félix Winckler, two young men on the Moon - Le fil arts et scènes - Télérama.fr
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Old 05-24-2010, 04:58 PM
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Athina & Eugenie have the same grandmother, after all!! I know they occasionally met as kids,for family weddings. But I never have seen them together all grown up.

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No, Athina and Eugenie DO NOT have the same grandmother. Their grandmothers were sisters. But both ladies, Tina Onassis and Eugenie Niarchos died decades ago, many many years before the two girls were born. And this commun blood does not make the girls to be friends, as the Onassis and the Niarchos families had not good relations. Athina lost her mother when she was three, she grow up with her father, Thierry Roussel, and I do not think that she had any common childhood with the young Niarchos generation.
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:30 PM
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No, Athina and Eugenie DO NOT have the same grandmother. Their grandmothers were sisters. But both ladies, Tina Onassis and Eugenie Niarchos died decades ago, many many years before the two girls were born. And this commun blood does not make the girls to be friends, as the Onassis and the Niarchos families had not good relations. Athina lost her mother when she was three, she grow up with her father, Thierry Roussel, and I do not think that she had any common childhood with the young Niarchos generation.
But you can understand where the confusion is, can't you? Seeing as Stavros married both Eugenia and Athina Livanos. To resolve the confusion, here's a map of how they're related. Theoretically, they're first cousins three times removed (I think?) because they have the same great-grandparents. I'm not expecting any great friendship between the three families anytime soon though, seeing as they're all rivals to the shipping trade. I wonder how Stavros Livanos would have felt, being father-in-law to two of his rivals? He had great daughters, didn't he?
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:11 PM
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I thought I saw Paris Hilton in there somewhere....... Sorry, she cracks me up....... You know, I know this is going to sound weird, but I swear sometime ago I got an impression Charlotte actually was kind of quietly friends with Nicky Hilton. I know no one can believe it, but I swear I think it's true.
If that is the case that would be delightfully unpretentious of Char. Since Nicky actually has some taste and some class!
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:12 PM
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No, Athina and Eugenie DO NOT have the same grandmother. Their grandmothers were sisters. But both ladies, Tina Onassis and Eugenie Niarchos died decades ago, many many years before the two girls were born. And this commun blood does not make the girls to be friends, as the Onassis and the Niarchos families had not good relations. Athina lost her mother when she was three, she grow up with her father, Thierry Roussel, and I do not think that she had any common childhood with the young Niarchos generation.
You're right. I meant the same great-grandmother, Arietta Zafirakis Livanos.

No common childhood... I only said that there was some meetings for at least 3 family weddings: two livanos, and one that was for a son of the daughter of one of the Onassis sisters. I think his name is George Drako. Yes, his mother is Marilena, whose mother was .... one of the sisters of Ari Onassis, can't recall which one. I know Eugenie and Athina aren't friends. I said it would be nice if they were, not that they were in fact.
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Old 05-25-2010, 04:53 AM
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But you can understand where the confusion is, can't you? Seeing as Stavros married both Eugenia and Athina Livanos. To resolve the confusion, here's a map of how they're related. Theoretically, they're first cousins three times removed (I think?) because they have the same great-grandparents. I'm not expecting any great friendship between the three families anytime soon though, seeing as they're all rivals to the shipping trade. I wonder how Stavros Livanos would have felt, being father-in-law to two of his rivals? He had great daughters, didn't he?
Niarchos and Onassis were rivals between them, not with Livanos. The rumor said that Niarchos would have preferred to marry Tina Livanos (i/o Eugenia) but Onassis conquereed Tina first, and this was the beginning of their rivalisation, of course followed by business matter rivalisation.
As for Stavros Livanos he should fell very sorry, as the shocking fact was that Eugenie died under musterious and never clarified conditions... and after that Tina married her sister's ex husband!!!!
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:29 AM
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I read on TFS a while back that she was dating a guy who lived in Washington DC and went to Georgetown University. I think his name is Marc-Alexandre Saba. They were photographed together in Greece last summer, but I have no idea if they are still together or not. And you are right they were hardly ever at any events together. Although that could be because he was a student in the US and she lives in London, or maybe Paris?
Eugenie and Marc are still together. He was with her at the Grand Prix. You can see the two of them in this pic on the right of Charlotte.
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:18 PM
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Sorry for the double post. I wanted to add that Vanina Mandelli is pregnant. She is near her due date now. Vanina had a baby shower within the last week or two that was attended by Caroline, Pierre and Charlotte and a number of their friends such as Eugenie, Tatiana and Margherita etc. I was going to post a pic from it but I don't like posting private pics of them so I decided not to. Someone will eventually come across them and post them online anyway.

There was a blogspot posted recently here. It did a feature on the trio and some of their friends. It said Felix was two years older than Charlotte. That's wrong. Felix and Cecile are twins and are one year older than Charlotte. Also, Felix just graduated from Fordham School of Law in New York.
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:46 PM
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Vanina is pregnant?! Honestly, this is news to me. I need to pay more attention obviously. Congratulations to her anyway. I'm happy for her.
On antoher note, I'm not asking you to post the pics here Lccje (although obviously I think that would be nice) but where did you see them? In a magazine or elsewhere?
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Old 05-25-2010, 01:34 PM
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I saw them privately online. If I had seen them in a magazine I wouldn't have had a problem posting them.
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Old 05-25-2010, 04:24 PM
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I was going to post a pic from it but I don't like posting private pics of them so I decided not to. Someone will eventually come across them and post them online anyway.
Although i'd like to see them your desicion is wise.I wouldn't do that either if she was among my contacts in facebook or twitter.
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Old 05-25-2010, 04:56 PM
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I, too, respect your decision. I think the world is already too full of people who are willing to turn a profit of some kind off others. A very wise decision indeed. I sincerely doubt anyone else will come across them (unless we have lots of people here who are Euro set on the sly) but it's nice to know. Congratulations again to Vanina and all the best!
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Niarchos and Onassis were rivals between them, not with Livanos. The rumor said that Niarchos would have preferred to marry Tina Livanos (i/o Eugenia) but Onassis conquereed Tina first, and this was the beginning of their rivalisation, of course followed by business matter rivalisation.
As for Stavros Livanos he should fell very sorry, as the shocking fact was that Eugenie died under musterious and never clarified conditions... and after that Tina married her sister's ex husband!!!!
Athina "Tina" Livanos was so much more beautiful than her sister!! I'm always amazed at Tina's beauty, which she did not at all pass onto her children. Of course, Christina was miserable because her mother was so beautiful and she compared herself and her self-esteem was all jacked up as a consequence. At least, that is what the biographers say.

Hey, thecia, didn't you notice Vanina was pregnant at the Rose Ball?! Her baby bump was totally obvious!!
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Old 05-25-2010, 08:54 PM
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Sorry for the double post. I wanted to add that Vanina Mandelli is pregnant. She is near her due date now. Vanina had a baby shower within the last week or two that was attended by Caroline, Pierre and Charlotte and a number of their friends such as Eugenie, Tatiana and Margherita etc. I was going to post a pic from it but I don't like posting private pics of them so I decided not to. Someone will eventually come across them and post them online anyway.

There was a blogspot posted recently here. It did a feature on the trio and some of their friends. It said Felix was two years older than Charlotte. That's wrong. Felix and Cecile are twins and are one year older than Charlotte. Also, Felix just graduated from Fordham School of Law in New York.
That's interesting. I had always wondered whether Cecile and Felix were twins or not. Thanks for the info! And I respect your decision not to post the pic. I would probably do the same.
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Athina "Tina" Livanos was so much more beautiful than her sister!! I'm always amazed at Tina's beauty, which she did not at all pass onto her children. Of course, Christina was miserable because her mother was so beautiful and she compared herself and her self-esteem was all jacked up as a consequence. At least, that is what the biographers say.

Hey, thecia, didn't you notice Vanina was pregnant at the Rose Ball?! Her baby bump was totally obvious!!
No! I swear, I'm turning into an airhead or something. I honestly didn't notice. I do remember seeing photos of Vanina at the Rose Ball. Actually, I do remember her baby bump and I actually remember discussing it. At first, I don't think I really noticed it but there was one photo of her where it was very obvious. I guess I just kind of forgot again. I do like her pregnant. She glows. And her face has filled out a bit, which softens her look. She actually looks beautiful. I have be honest, I don't much like her looks but pregnancy really does suit her.
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