Gender, Name and Godparent Speculation for Mary's Second Pregnancy

[rosana]

Where doea Dagmar come from, were there any Queen Dagmar?

Elizabeth Margrethe Ingrid Henrietta

[UserDane]

Originally Posted by rosana

Where doea Dagmar come from, were there any Queen Dagmar?

There was - about 800 years ago married to Valdemar Sejr (Valdemar the Victorius):
"Queen Dagmar is one of the most important characters associated with Riberhus Castle. Nevertheless, most of what we know about her we know from folksongs, legends and myths. Dagmar was a Bohemian princess, christened Margaretha Dragomira (“the peace-loving one”) and daughter of Premysl Ottokar I, king of Bohemia, and Adela of Meissen"

There's a bit more about her here: http://www.ribevandrerhjem.dk/index.php?id=70

[Polly]

If it were up to Mary alone, I don't think that Dagmar would be a choice at all. Australians have a habit of shortening names or using diminutives, and 'Dag' isn't an attractive option in my opinion. In the first place, in some parts of the country a 'dag' (which is how Australians would pronounce it - with a hard 'g') can mean someone seriously un-cool; a fool; or a hopeless person. In others, it can mean a buffoon or a clown. I think that Mary might instinctively reject it because of these connotations, but I mean no reflection on the suitability or appeal of the name in an European context.

Someone here also said that 'Henrietta' doesn't sound very good in Danish. Presumably, that won't be any little princess' first name, either. However, there are so many pretty girls names which must resonate well in both languages. I think that 'Ingrid' is a lovely name, incidentally.

Polly

[Jo of Palatine]

Originally Posted by Polly

If it were up to Mary alone, I don't think that Dagmar would be a choice at all. Australians have a habit of shortening names or using diminutives, and 'Dag' isn't an attractive option in my opinion.

Hm, here in Germany we shorten Dagmar to Daggi, but thanks to Norwegianne ( ) I just learned that the Danish to speak the "g", so I have no idea how they would shorten the name. Any idea?

Henrietta would be great, as it refers to both Mary's mother and frederick's father.

I found this list on a German website, they claim it's from the Danish Statistical authority:

Prefered names for girls in 2003:

1. Emma
2. Julie
3. Mathilde
4. Sofie
5. Laura
6. Caroline
7. Cecilie
8. Ida
9. Sarah
10. Freja
11. Anna
12. Josefine
13. Emilie
14. Amalie
15. Clara
16. Katrine
17. Maja
18. Signe
19. Camilla
20. Marie

For boys in 2003:

1. Mikkel
2. Frederik
3. Mathias
4. Mads
5. Rasmus
6. Emil
7. Oliver
8. Christian
9. Magnus
10. Lucas
11. Nikolaj
12. Victor
13. Tobias
14. Jacob
15. Jonas
16. Kasper
17. Marcus
18. Simon
19. Andreas
20. Sebastian

And these were most popular names in Denmark of the whole population (from January 2004)


Women:

1. Kirsten
2. Anne
3. Hanne
4. Mette
5. Anna
6. Helle
7. Karen
8. Susanne
9. Lene
10. Inge
11. Inger
12. Else
13. Marianne
14. Bente
15. Lone
16. Maria
17. Jette
18. Pia
19. Charlotte
20. Birthe

Men:

1. Jens
2. Peter
3. Lars
4. Michael
5. Hans
6. Niels
7. Joergen
8. Soeren
9. Henrik
10. Thomas
11. Jan
12. Erik
13. Ole
14. Martin
15. Per
16. Christian
17. Anders
18. Poul
19. Morten
20. Jesper

[LadyS]

I am usually completely off the mark when it comes to this guessing names and sex of babies but I like these few names:

Girl: Louise, Elizabeth, Victoria, Sophie, Caroline, Henriette, Charlotte

Boy: Alexander, Karl, Michael, Erik


This site lists the genealogy of the Danish Royal family so maybe a few ideas from there
http://pages.prodigy.net/ptheroff/gotha/denmark.html

[Marengo]

well, so many Dagmars, so I will opt the other danish royal name:

Thyra Ingrid Margrethe Henriette

Boy:

Axel Joachim Michael Frederik

[UserDane]

Thyra is cool
There are other very pretty girls name available from Danish history - Leonore Christine, Charlotte Amalie, etc.
And someone mentioned Cecilie - which I would really like (guess who have a daughter by that name... )

[wymanda]

Given the fact that Mary must have just had her pregnancy confirmed when they went to St Petersburg

Princess Dagmar Alexandra Ingrid Peta Adelaide (The final name in honour of Oz)

Prince Peter Alexander Frederick Sydney

[Jo of Palatine]

Originally Posted by Marengo

well, so many Dagmars, so I will opt the other danish royal name:

Thyra Ingrid Margrethe Henriette

Boy:

Axel Joachim Michael Frederik

Even though the baby will be born in 2007, thus is grown-up at around 2025 and times are changing rapidly, I don't believe the Danish RF will want another "Thyra". Though the name is beautiful.

What about a Sven Frederick? Sven means "little" and I heard it's quite liked in combination with the name of the father.

[Empress]

Alexandrine Sophie Margrethe Caroline

[Kristin]

my vote for girl.

[atorrey1119]

i think it'll be a girl. it's sad that all of our 'voting' won't count in the end. Anyway a beautiful little Princess would be wonderful. I think Frederik would be crazy about her!

[Eliza]

i reckon it'll be a boy. If you look at the family genes since the Queen M's time - it's been double boys for both the Queen and Pss Alex, so i think it'll be the same for the CP couple.

[Saturn]

After three boys my vote goes for a girl.

[Polly]

It was interesting to see 'Emma' at the top of the 2003 list. One of the Danish kings, Canute, became king of England (might have been king of Norway, also) and his wife's name was Emma. From memory, she was originally from Normandy and Canute was her second husband. 'Emma', therefore has a suitable royal history, and it's historical and contemporary at the same time.

Polly

[Oppie]

Where doea Dagmar come from, were there any Queen Dagmar

Christian IX had six children, among them Frederik VIII of Denmark, Queen Alexandra of the United Kingdom (wife of Edward VII), King George of Greece.

His second daughter was born Princess Dagmar of Denmark, she later married Tsar Alexander III of Russia and become known as Empress Maria Fydorovna of Russia.

Empress Maria was recently re-buried in Russia, during the service Crown Princess Mary left because she was feeling 'unwell' it is now more likely because she was pregnant, that is where the connection comes in.

[HRH Mims]

My guess
Girl:
Princess Gloria Alexandra Mary of Denmark
Princess Henriette Dagmar Mary of Denmark
Princess Sarah Augustine Margrethe of Denmark

Boy:
Prince Frederick Michael Thomas of Denmark
Prince Jan Joseph Henrik of Danemark
Prince Martin Marcus Henrik of Danemark

[MargreteI]

Originally Posted by Jo of Palatine

Even though the baby will be born in 2007, thus is grown-up at around 2025 and times are changing rapidly, I don't believe the Danish RF will want another "Thyra". Though the name is beautiful.

Thyra is a very historical name in Denmark, not a bad choise at all.

Forget Princess Thyra and say hello to Queen Thyra.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jelling_stones

The stones are Unesco world heritage and is considered the Kingdoms birthcitificate. :)

I am for Thyra or Dagmar if its a girl

[Jo of Palatine]

Originally Posted by MargreteI

Thyra is a very historical name in Denmark, not a bad choise at all.

Forget Princess Thyra and say hello to Queen Thyra.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jelling_stones

The stones are Unesco world heritage and is considered the Kingdoms birthcitificate. :)

I am for Thyra or Dagmar if its a girl

Thank you for the link. I saw that the translation spelled the queen's name as Thyrvé. Now that's an interesting name!

[lilytornado]

Thyra is nice, and Emma also. Wouldn´t that be nice, Princess Emma?
Christian and Emma.