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Old 04-26-2007, 03:24 AM
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Some issues I only just thought of about the use of Henrietta as a first name...If Mary does use it, she will probably have to discuss it thoroughly with her family (Jane Stephens, Patricia Bailey, John Donaldson jnr and John and Susan Donaldson) because by using it as a first name it will be as if Mary is claiming her mother Henrietta as her own...but the truth is Henrietta was also the mother of Jane, Patricia and John, not just Mary...and how will her father feel calling his little granddaughter by the name of his late wife and how will Susan feel using the name of her husband's late wife (will it be uncomfortable or is Susan a big enough person not to be affected by that aspect)...

I would love Mary to use Henrietta as a first name but it is not only up to her...her Australian family have to consent a little bit because it will then make their mother's name public property...I know it will be a definite middle name but a first name would be great, because it is a royal name, and it is such a great name and it is a way her mother can share in some small way with Mary's happiness...?
But including her father's name John as one of Christian's names does not seem to have been a problem in terms of claiming her father as her own. Or do you mean that it will be a bigger problem because the sibling's mother is dead?
I don't think it would persent a problem to Mary's siblings. Do they not all of them have daughters? They have had the chance to use the name Henrietta if they had wanted to.
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:30 AM
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Does the poor baby remain nameless until July??? My! This sounds extremely weird!!!

Vanesa.
very common amongst danes first to reveal the name at the christening
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:36 AM
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My money is know [not literally ] on...
Princess Ingrid Henrietta Margerethe Jane of Denmark or
Princess Margerethe Henrietta Ingrid of Denmark [in the slightest chance she might become Queen and they want Denmark to have [own right to rule] Queens with the first name Margerethe.
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:43 AM
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very common amongst danes first to reveal the name at the christening
In Greece also is quite like this. You declare the name only during the christening, so you can have changed thousand of time your mind. Some times parents do not agree for the name till the last moment, so it could be always a surprise.

As for the little Princess, I would like

Desiree Ingrid Margarete Henrietta
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Old 04-26-2007, 04:30 AM
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I agree with you up to a point, Sister Morphine. Though it is utterly charming to have 6 or 7 people as your godparent, it indeed devaluates the role that a godparent is supposed to have in my eyes. Of course such an extended number makes it easier for the parents to include family, friends and collegues, but one wonders if these people all will have an influence in the life of the child.

Of course one can wonder if the royals that are usually added to the number of godparents are only included because they wanted an impressive name or because they really want the person to be involved in t life of the little royal. I think it has to do with both. The little royal will have a life in the spotlight, and has to live a certain way. It should be helpfull to have a fellow-royal as a sort of mentor (for example Beatrix to Victoria of Sweden). Apart from that many of these royals are actual good friends, and belongs to each others closest circle. As they practically gre up together, attended the same parties, face simular problems regading ther positions, are of simular ages etc. this is not to surprising.
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:26 AM
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I have always had a hard time understanding royal godparents. Godparents should be people close to the couple and the child, if not through blood, then through being friends of the family as a whole or the couple. I get the feeling that when these people have kids, they take all the names of every royal in Europe and just draw names, hence why CPss Victoria is godmother to something like 5 different kids. It takes the importance of the position away, at least to me.

I would like to see Fred and Mary pick people they are close to, people who will have a presence in the child's life as they grow.
True for older generations and people like MC and Pavlos but other couples have taken a fair balance in choosing god parents. For Fred and Mary, the royal godparents were

Prince Joachim- the uncle
CP Pavlos- Fred's cousin. they are of the same age and if you look back to Q Ingrid's time, they seem to be close friends too.
CP Haakon & MM- this is a couple close to F & M as there have been pictures of private visits. And I have seen Fred's holiday pictures with Haakon and MM prior to Mary and the kids.
CP Victoria - again a close friend. We have seen them at Count--- 90th B'day party.

For Haakon and MM again
CP Victoria - One of the Scandinavian trio.
CP Fred & Felipe - Close Friends as Eva was introduced to Felipe by him(so I have heard)
CP Maxima - They spent some holidays together as Ingrid and Amalia are of same age.

For WA and Maxima
CP Victoria- Beatrix is her Godmother, not to mention she will be the only queen in her generation.
CP Mathilde - They seem to be close friends.

So not all the godaparents are chosen for showing off. I can bet that the Danish and Norwegian couples would feature prominently in Victoria's children's godeparents list too.
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:12 AM
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Mary seemed to be getting along with Prince Edward quite well a few months ago (@ Carl Gustaf's birthday party?).

Maybe they'll pick him; he did come out to the wedding after all.
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:52 AM
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Mary seemed to be getting along with Prince Edward quite well a few months ago (@ Carl Gustaf's birthday party?).

Maybe they'll pick him; he did come out to the wedding after all.
He is either Nikolai or Felix's godparent, isn't he?
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He is either Nikolai or Felix's godparent, isn't he?
He's Nikolai's godparent.
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I wouldn't be surprised if one of Mary's Danish friends like Baroness Helle or her husband Baron Otto Reedtz-Thott would be asked to be a god-parent. Would it be considered improper for Mary's former lady-in-waiting to be a godparent?
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Ok...everyone has misunderstood me about using Henrietta...of course it will be used just like John was as part of Christian's name...but I now doubt it will be used as the FIRST name because of all the points I have previously mentioned...But I could be wrong?
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very common amongst danes first to reveal the name at the christening
Thank you Betina...It seemed a little weird for me that the sweet little thing should be for two months without a name. Now I understand.

But you said this tradition is common among Danish...There I do not understand. Did you mean ALL Danish people or only the Royal Family?

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Old 04-27-2007, 01:13 AM
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Thank you Betina...It seemed a little weird for me that the sweet little thing should be for two months without a name. Now I understand.

But you said this tradition is common among Danish...There I do not understand. Did you mean ALL Danish people or only the Royal Family?

Vanesa.


She meant all Danes, the Royal Family included.
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My money is know [not literally ] on...
Princess Ingrid Henrietta Margerethe Jane of Denmark or
Princess Margerethe Henrietta Ingrid of Denmark [in the slightest chance she might become Queen and they want Denmark to have [own right to rule] Queens with the first name Margerethe.


The only way the princess would become Queen would be if Christian died before his father and they had no more male children. And it's doubtful they'd give the child the first name Ingrid because of the little princess in Norway.
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:08 AM
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The more I think about it the more I think she will get a traditional royal name because she's third in line for the thorne and there is a chance she could be Queen some day-not wishing anything bad on her big brother at all .It's just that I think she's so close in line she will get a tradtional name-Henrietta,Catherine,Alexandra and Charlotte are my top choices now.
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:54 AM
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It's just that I think she's so close in line she will get a tradtional name-Henrietta,Catherine,Alexandra and Charlotte are my top choices now.
Alexandra is a very unlikely choice IMO. Charlotte, on the other hand, I absolutely love But I'm sure Henrietta will be somewhere in her name, same as Margrethe
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I think she might have a French name, as her brother and father do.


Charlotte Margrethe Henrietta Elizabeth

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Charlotte Elizabeth Henrietta Ingrid
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One or two postings have said that there is no relationship between Queen Elizabeth and Queen Margarethe and that they are not close.

They are, I think, 3rd cousins. King Edward VII was married to Alexandra, the sister of the then King of Denmark.

Also, Queen Margarethe is often among the private guests at Balmoral and Windsor, and I have read that there is quite a good relationship there.

Also, Anne Bowes-Lyon (a niece, I think, of the Queen Mother) was married to Pr George of Denmark, a 2nd cousin of Queen Margrethe.

I know the Queen rarely goes abroad to visit other Royal Families - and usually sends one of her children to represent her at other Royal Family weddings and anniversary parties, etc., - but many visit privately. King Hussain of Jordan was a regular visitor, as is the former Grand-Duke Jean of Luxembourg. The Queen is also quite closely related to the Norwegian Royal Family (the late King Olav was her first cousin), and more distantly to the Swedish Royal Family. There is also an even more distant connection to the Belgian Royal Family through the first King Leopold I. Oh, not to forget close relationships with the Greek Royal Family and the Spanish Royal Family, and the former German and Russian Royal Families. There is also a connection to the Roumanian Royal Family.

Come to think of it, only the Dutch, French, Portuguese, Bulgarian and Italian Royal Families are not related to Queen Elizabeth.

Unfortunatly the Christening is to take place on 1st July so would most likley rule out any of the Windsor family due to the Memorial Concert for Princess Diana. I don't think any British Royal Family would risk being elsewhere on this day.
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Just watching the A Royal Family documentary on SBS, I have learnt the pronunciation of Dagmar!

Daauw-mar is the way I think you would spell it to pronounce it correctly. The 'g' doesn't made a normal English 'g' sound, it makes the 'auw' sound. Think 'ow' (as in ow my foot hurts) and say the start longer that the quick 'o'.

Does that make any sense to Danish members? Or have I just confused people even more?
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